>MzCortez@aol.com wrote: >> >> Dear Folks, >> >> This is a Joseph Carpenter from Oyster Bay, LI. >> >1) PROBABLY THIS FAMILY: > +---�Joseph C. CARPENTER Sr.-5312 >Joseph CARPENTER Jr.-5326 � �Abt 1693 >Abt 1710/1720 --------------� �Musketa Cove,Oyster Bay,Queens,LI >Musketa Cove,LI,New York Colony � MRIN:1747 > --SPOUSE-- MRIN:1744 +---�Frances Elizabeth DAMES-19886 >Leah-5327 �Abt 1695 >Abt 1720/1727 �,,NY >of,,VA >(There are other marriages) > --CHILDREN-- > 1-Mary CARPENTER-31361 Mary CARPENTER married Robert VIORS in Botetourt Co. Va, 1/7/1785.. They moved to Kentucky in 1800 and bought a farm in Mason/Lewis County in 1802. They had five sons, four daughters. I am descended from their son John. Both of them are buried on the farm where they lived on Quicks Run Road, in Lewis County, Ky. The family name eventually mutated to VOIERS. > 2-Sarah CARPENTER-31362 > 3-Judith CARPENTER-31363 > 4-Marthew CARPENTER-31364 > 5-Samuel CARPENTER-31365 > 6-William CARPENTER-31366 <snip> >!WILL: Will dated 21 Jan. 1792, proved July 1792. Wife listed as Leah. >Joseph Carpenter served in Captian Dickenson's company in part of the >French and Indian Wars, heir John, son of Thomas. >A Patriot, he served in Captain John Lewis's Company of Botetourt >County, Virginia Militia in 1774. Children with which mother is >uncertain. >See: Virginia Frontier by Kegley, page 273. >CHILDREN: Did not have a Matthew but Marthew, a female! >!BOOK: See page 36 #2 (for notes) of the Mowrey 1997 book. See book >information below: >UPDATE OF THE GENEALOGY OF THE NEW ENGLAND CARPENTER FAMILY OF ENGLISH >ORIGIN - THE VIRGINIA / WEST VIRGINIA BRANCH - SOME DESCENDANTS OF >JOSEPH >CARPENTER - PIONEER OF THE JACKSON RIVER - MOWREY"S VERSION. >BY TERRY LEE CARPENTER AND PAUL THOMAS MOWREY. >PRO BONO PUBLICO - PRIVATELY PUBLISHED, DOVER, OHIO, 1997. >BY PAUL THOMAS MOWREY. See father's notes on this Joseph's trial and >escape. > >2) or... > >INDIVIDUAL DATA RIN:19904 > >!Number 39 in the book "The Carpenter Family in America" by Daniel H. >Carpenter, 1901. >BIRTH: 15 Sept. or 25 Mar. 1705. >See: Journal of Robert Coles, p. 200 (in the collection of the New York >Genealogical and Biographical Society, Manhattan, NY) It has >15 Sept. 1705 with a corrected date of "March 25". >See: Wills of Ulster county, NY; and Howland Delano Perrine, The Wright >Family of Oysterbay, Long Island (New York, NY, 1923). >See: St. George's Church Records of Hempstead, Queens county, LI, NY >regarding marriage. >DEATH: 1766 in Lattingtown, near Musketa Cove, is a Memorial Stone >reading: Joseph Carpenter / The First Settler in This Place, And / The >Planter of This Orchard, / Died July 1st, 1766 / Aged 61 YRS, 3 mMO & 6 >DAYS. >end > >> >> 3. The names of his children? >> SEE ABOVE X2 > >> 1753 ULSTER COUNTY DEED TO BENJAMIN STANTON, &tc. >> (Ulster County, NY, EE/431) >> A True Copy Compared and Examined the 8th Day of January 1757 ? John >> Crooke..Clerk >> >> This Indenture made this...day of January in the year of our lord one >> thousand seven Hundred & fifty three Between Henry Lane of the city of >> newyork/merchant and Rachel his wife of the one part and Joseph Carpenter, >> Benjamen Stanten, John Caverly and John Latting all of Oyster Bay upon Long >> Isand in the province of New york of the other part Wittnesseth that they the >> said Henry Lane and Rachel his wife for and in consideration of the sum of >> Five hundred pounds current money of the province of New York <A >> HREF="http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Prairie/6173/mystanton.html">George >> Stanton of Sullivan Co., NY10/99</A> >> >> Phoebe in CA >George R. Carpenter >> >> Cornel University web site on line.. ALOT OF GOOD STUFF for NY AREA... >it is a >> MUST to look .... Kings County, NY, City Directory and Gazattes and many >MORE!!! >> >> http://moa.cit.cornell.edu/MOA/Browseb.html >> >> HAVE fun searching... >> >> Debbe A. Hagner >!Number 24 in the Carpenter Memorial. Page 50. >Family is number 13 on page 61. He resided at Jamaica, LI. >His will was dated 10 Jun 1732 and proved 30 Jul 1732. His will names >his wife Mary, sons Nehemiah, John and Solomon of Goshen to whom he >gives his musket, sword, etc. Daughters Mary, Hannah, Susanna, and >Phebe. Also mentioned was Increase who with Nehemiah were executors to >the will of their father. >He took the oath as Captain of Troops, Nov. 22, 1703 at Jamaica. >Of Huntington, RI. > >!PER NEW ENGLAND MARRIAGES PRIOR TO 1700; JOHN (1658ABT-1732) & MARY >RHODES?), DAU JOHN; 9 FEB 1680; JAMAICA, LI/WEYMOUTH/ATTLEBORO. >SEE: Colonial Families of Long Island by Seversmith. >end > > FAMILY NUMBER:518 > > CHILD BR/CH > ----- ----- > 1. John CARPENTER-4736 Abt 1681/1682 > 2. Joseph CARPENTER-4737 Abt 1683/1685 > 3. John CARPENTER 3rd-12755 Abt 1685 > 4. Increase CARPENTER-3622 1685/1687 > 5. Solomon CARPENTER Col.-4738 1690/1712 > 6. Mary CARPENTER-4739 Abt 1692 > 7. Hannah CARPENTER-4740 Abt 1694 > 8. Nehemiah CARPENTER-4741 Abt 1697 > 9. Susanna CARPENTER-4742 Abt 1699 > 10. Phoebe OR Phebe CARPENTER-4743 16 Mar 1700 > > >Robin Carpenter wrote: >> >> I finally received from the NYS Archives a photocopy of John Carpenter's >> 1732 will (Jamaica LI NY). [This is John #24 in Carpenter Memorial, >> 1658-1732.] The copy quality of the will is very bad--so bad that the state >> declined to cash my check--and a number of words are undecipherable. >> This will was abstracted in the NY Gen & Biog Record, Vol 65 p.38, >> transcript of which abstract I have from "The Ancestry & Descendant of Col. >> Solomon Carpenter of Goshen NY" of 1974. I'm sure the abstract has appeared >> elsewhere as well. >> Overall, the abstract is a pretty good representation of the will >> (although it omits all the introductory pieties). My interest in seeing the >> actual will was to clarify a confusion over the number and sequence of >> John's sons. The abstract refers to sons Nehemiah, John of Goshen, Solomon >> of Goshen, Joseph, Increase, Nehemiah (again). The abstract THEN >> paraphrases the will's reference to "my three sons." HUH? Is it three sons >> (reference), five (name count), or conceiveably six (if there were two >> Nehemiahs)? >> The will makes it all pretty clear. One item bequeaths to wife (Mary) >> and son Nehemiah. Another item bequeaths to son "John Carpenter belonging >> to Goshen." Another item bequeaths to "Solomon Carpenter belonging to >> Goshen." Then an item bequeaths "...unto three sons Joseph Increase & >> Nehemiah Carpenter after the end of my Wifes Widdowhood all my meadow lying >> on Nether East Neck and my lot of land lying down(?) the Neck joining to the >> land of Jeremiah Denton to be equally divided between them to them and their >> heirs and assigns forever." >> (The will literally says "Item" initiating each bequeathal statement >> separately.) >> Later reference is made to "...equal charge with my three sons Joseph >> Increase & Nehemiah in sharing(?) my building as long as my Wife & I shall >> live." Finally, after the homestead is (later) to be sold, there is >> reference to "...my three sons and four daughters Joseph Increase & Nehemiah >> & Mary Hannah Susanna & Phebe..." to split the proceeds equally. >> Very clearly there are five sons. Almost as clearly, John and Solomon >> are eldest and gone off on their own. Finally, the sequence of the three >> youngest sons is pretty surely Joseph-Increase-Nehemiah. (The sequence in >> ABC's Carpenter Memorial has Nehemiah first--which I would guess is because >> he is named first in John's Item #1, as described above, but which sequence >> I conclude is plainly wrong.) >> Genealogist Raymond George Carpenter says that John #24 was married >> twice, 1st to Abigail Rhodes and 2nd to Mary who is named in the will. John >> is 74 yrs old at his death, with one daughter (Hannah) who is unmarried >> although there are two younger sisters, and with three sons living at home. >> Presumably they are all young adults. It adds up, in my view, to wife Mary >> likely being the mother of these offspring, and Abigail Rhodes the mother of >> John & Solomon of Goshen. >> Does anyone wish to concur with me in this? >> Robin C. > Sue Bishop