I presented three entirely different genealogies for Raoul de Gouy. In the 'Descendants of Charlemagne' site on the net, yet another is found. If Childebrand is presented as a brother of Karl Martel in the Weis 'Ancestral Roots', it could be a possibility. I presented it as just one more idea. Actually, what I quoted from the 1999 edition of the book are the remarks of Walter Lee Sheppard Jr., the editor. I still think the 'de Gouy' area of inquiry an interesting one. A Carpentier descent from Charlemagne is still in the running. If John sees himself as a 'check on inaccuracy', then that is certainly laudable. How about a more positive contribution? BC