In a message dated 7/27/99 9:34:15 PM Central Daylight Time, mike@netking.net writes: << Hello, Jan My name is Debra Carpenter, was wondering about the newspaper clipping? Am still digging into my line but somewhere I have seen some of your names, will try to find them, and send you what I have. Could you tell me about the newspaper? Thanks Debra >> The Newspaper is "The Evening News." Dated Detroit, Saturday, August 23, 1873. It states: "The New York Tribune, in response to the Milwaukee Evening Wisconsin, on the Senator Carpenter scandal, says that the Tribune makes no charges that can not be substantiated, and hopes that if Mr. Carpenter has been aggrieved by anything that has appeared in its columns he will resort to his remedy at law; and the Tribune being a journal of ample pecuniary responsibility, whatever damage a jury of his countrymen shall say he has sustained will be promptly paid. More than that, the Tribune will gladly pay any sum that may be so assessed in damages to be convinced that the life and conduct of Mr. Matt Carpenter are such as may be held up for an example, instead of a warning to the young men of the country. For proof of that the Tribune is willing to pay liberally. " In another location of the same paper: under "POLITICAL NOTES": "A serious attempt is being made to kill off President Grant. The Rutland Globe alludes to the failing health of Vice President Wilson, and his possible death, and expresses it's horror at seeing Matt. Carpenter, as President of the Senate, so near to the White House. The New York Tribune has also been studying the law of decent in the case, and shows that in the event of Grant, Wilson and Carpenter all dying the country would have to get along without a chief magistrate till Congress meets in December. Now this speculating on the effect of men's deaths is just the way to kill them. the human mind is eculiar, and if the very knowledge that their decease is a matter of discussion on every street corner is not in itself sufficient to worry out the vital spark, there are plenty of insane Ravalliacs and Booths in the country who would jump at the chance to gain themselves "a mission", which the mere suggestion afforded. Three Presidents have died in office within a quarter of a century. If we were Grant we should increase our life insurance forthwith. By the way, Grant still lacks a week of completing the first six months of his second term, yet the subject of his successor in 1877 is already discussed by the topic-starved public press. etc.etc.etc... Kind of interesting? Now where does Matt Carpenter fit into the Carpenter Clan? Anybody? Jan Gumpysfarm@aol.com