For Beth Thurman I have three John C. Carpenter's in my database. 1. John C. had sons John C. Jr born 12-1851 and Peter C. 2. John C. Jr married Margaret Minyard 3. John Calvin born 1796 son of Templeton and Hannah Newton Carpenter died in TX Respond direct to j2acoleman@aol.com if you want to trade info. Ann Coleman