Dear PaWZake, Please review the file data below below. They may be helpful. If you have any questions, please contact me. JRC INDIVIDUAL DATA RIN:44619 - --------------------------------------------------- Name:John W. CARPENTER Sex:M ID No: Birth: 1830 Place:,Surry,NC Chr: Place: Marr: Spouse: Marr: Spouse: Marr: Spouse: Death: Place: Burial: Place: Father:William CARPENTER Sr.-5455 Mother:RODY-44621 Notes ---------------------------------------------- Re: Carpenter 2000CD Date: 99-06-01 23:17:19 EDT. From: PaW Zake@aol.com To: JRCRIN001 Thanks for responding: We'll try this ... James W. Carpenter was born about 1861 in DeSoto County, Miss He married Cass Crow about 1876-1879 They lived in Tate Co. He died 11/11/1931 In Titus county, TX. I believe that his father was John W. Carpenter born 1831-1833 in NC Md Mary C 1853-1855 Died between 1861 and 1865 (in war?) He was in DeSoto Co, Miss in 1860 as J W, but 1863 Military Tax lists only show John W. 1860 census shows worth of 4800 and 17,500 John and Mary's children: J.B. male about 1856 WT sex unknown abt 1858 James W. abt 1861 In 1870 DeSoto County Miss they are with J G Worrell and Mary has two new Worrell children the oldest born about 1866. If you need more, please contact me--have hit a brick wall. Have been trying to find military records for a JW and found a Capt. JM Carpenter from Tishomingo, Co who was killed 7/28/1864 and a JW Carpenter who was found on a POW list and muster records from2/15/1862-10-1864 from Pontotoc County, but does not say if he lived or died. Thank you for any assistance. Have records on descendants if this matches up!! ***************************************************** Subject: J.W. Carpenter of DeSoto Co. MISP Date: Mon, 19 Jul 1999 22:35:01 EDT From: PaWZake@aol.com Have been lurking for a while and now feel I can post: 1860 DeSoto MISP Census J.W. Carpenter, 29 NC M.C. 23 GA J.B. 4 MISP W.T. 1 MISP He had a personal value of 4800 and 17500. That seems large for those days and the surrounding valuations by others. Granny said that they lost a plantation in the War and that a town is now built where it was. Is this value enough for a small plantation?? 1863 Military Tax Lists only a John W. Carpenter so probably is his name. 1870 De Soto Co believe that the following is his wife and new husband. If this is her, then maybe J.W. was killed in Civil WAr. J.G. Worrell 42 TN Mary C 32 GA J.B. Carpenter 14`` MISP W.T. Carpenter 12 MISP J.W. Carpenter 9 MISP Lilla Worrell 4 Annie Worrell 1 Believe that either the JB or the JW is the following: 1880 Tate County MISP James Carpenter 24 MISP Cassa 23 MISP Willie 1 MISP James and Cassa(na) were married in Carroll County 2/28/1878. Cass's father Riley Crow married his second wife Elizabeth Johnson in Carroll County 1/17/1878. Believe that J.G. Worrell and Mary may have moved to Caroll County after 1870. Have not been able to match my James W. Carpenter who married Cassana with any Carrol County Carpenters. Am new to this so any leads appreciated. - ---------------------------------------------- Name:John W. CARPENTER-44619 Birth: 1830 FAMILY NUMBER:4695 - --------------------------------------------------- Husband:William CARPENTER Sr.-5455 Br/Ch: 1770 Wife:RODY-44621 Br/Ch:Abt 1780 - --------------------------------------------------- CHILD BR/CH ----- ----- 1. William OR Buck CARPENTER-13296 1808 2. John W. CARPENTER-44619 **** 1830 3. Frances CARPENTER-44767 1829 4. Nancy CARPENTER-44777 1831 INDIVIDUAL DATA RIN:5455 - ---------------------------------------------- Name:William CARPENTER Sr. Sex:M ID No:MTL6-K0 Birth: 1770 Place:,Nash,NC Chr: Place: Marr: Spouse:RODY-44621 Marr: Spouse: Marr: Spouse: Death: Jan 1859 Place:,Surry,NC Burial: Place: Father:Thomas "Jack" CARPENTER-5337 Mother:Mary LEE-5339 Notes --------------------------------------------------- !Carolyn Spence of Trinity, NC in a letter dated 8 Mar 1999, updated this line. She believes that the data for this William Carpenter (who is listed in the Ancestral File as dying on 26 Nov. 1832 in Surry County, NC) is in error. She says the following Will she found provides information that William died in 1859 and not 1832. !WILL: Will of William Carpenter from Surry County NC Will book # 5 page 46. I think this William was the father of Buck Carpenter. WILL OF WILLIAM CARPENTER (dated) 4 JAN 1859 My body shall be decently buried and my funeral charges and just debts be paid by executor. My two youngest daughters Nancy Carpenter and Frances Carpenter get my tract of land whereon I now live divided as follows: Beginning at a forked pine the west corner of said land, then runs southeast to a white oak the beginning corner of said tract, the south side of said land and of said tract I give to my daughter Nancy and the north side together with the mill I give to my daughter Frances. Also, my daughters Nancy and Frances all my household and kitchen furniture to be equally divided between them and one cow each. Son John Carpenter gets my blacksmith tools. The balance of my property is to be sold and equally divided between all my lawful heirs. Executor: Frances Carpenter. Witnesses: Jonathan J. McMickle and Joseph Isaacks. Proved by J J McMickle. Probate Aug term 1860. William was last found in the 1850 Surry census with a daughter Frances 19, Mandy which is probably Nancy mispelled, and a child named Rhudy which was probably Rhody mispelled. John lived nearby and was already a blacksmith, indicating to me that John was using his fathers tools, and the Will above gave the instruments to John outright. Since a wife was not named in this Will written in 1859, she had died prior to Jan 1859. - ------------------------------------------------ Name:William CARPENTER Sr.-5455 Birth: 1770