In a message dated 7/23/99 12:03:50 PM Central Daylight Time, jrcrin001@home.com writes: << I encourage everyone to submit a piece of the puzzle from any source you find (don't forget to cite). Feel free to ask questions. Many clarifications and errors have been corrected this way. >> Here is my brick wall, John Carpenter listed below. I like to never have found him listed in 1850 in the census index because I was told he was in Upson Co., GA. But no Carpenters were listed in Upson Co., GA that year. I finally discovered a big error and Upson Co., GA was listed as Richmond Co., GA. Below are the few things I know about my John Carpenter, I have been working on this family for 35 years.........he just suddenly appeared in Putman Co., GA about 1804, nothing at all before that. Descendants of John Carpenter Generation No. 1 1. JOHN1 CARPENTER was born Abt. 1773 in Virginia, and died June 12, 1839 in Upson Co., GA.. He married MARY Bet. 1802 - 1805 in Possibly GA. She was born 1790 in N.C., and died 1854 in Upson Co., GA.. More About JOHN CARPENTER: Fact 1: 1804, John Carpenter paid land taxes in Hancock County, Ga in 1804. Fact 2: 1805, He entered the Land Lottery in 1805, but drew a blank, so he recieved no land. Fact 3: 1815, John paid land taxes in Putnam Co., GA in 1815. Fact 4: 1820, John was enumerated in 1820 Census in Hancock Co., GA. with a wife, 5 sons, and 1 dau Fact 5: 1820, He entered the 1820 Land Lottery and had 2 draws. Fact 6: 1824, 6 July 1824 John Carpenter and a John Bell purchased lot #82, drawn by Sheldon Farrow. Fact 7: 1825, In 1825 John pd $70 toJohn Bell for a quick claim deed, written on back of 1st deed. Fact 8: 1830, John and fam. in Putnam Co., Ga in 1830. John moved to Upson Co., GA in 1832. Fact 9: 1880, His son George W. Carpenter on the 1880 Steward Co. Ga. census stated his father was born in VA. Children of JOHN CARPENTER and MARY were: i. FEMALE2 CARPENTER, b. Abt. 1806, Georgia. More About FEMALE CARPENTER: Burial: died young 2. ii. HAMILTON (Parks) CARPENTER, b. Abt. 1808, Georgia; d. Bet. 1864 - 1865, Upson Co., Georgia. 3. iii. DEBORAH CARPENTER, b. Abt. 1810, Hancock Co., Georgia; d. Aft. 1870, Schley Co., Georgia. 4. iv. GEORGE W. CARPENTER, b. Abt. 1811, Georgia; d. Aft. 1880, Stewert Co., Georgia. v. NANCY CARPENTER, b. Bet. 1812 - 1813, Georgia; d. June 30, 1855, Milledgeville, Ga. More About NANCY CARPENTER: In 1850, Nancy was listed as an idiot. She was admitted to the Georgia State Mental Hospital, on 24th April 1855. It was stated "she is 40 yrs old, 1st symtoms manifested 10 yrs ago decidedly insane 8 yrs ago. cause unknown, disease hereditary no prominent delusions, is not apparently in a state of dementia, general health had a broken arm, has elephantiasis, destructive to clothing but often attemps to injure others etc." She d. 2 mo. after admittance. vi. BICAL CARPENTER, b. Abt. 1814; m. PLEASANT SPEARS, January 14, 1838, Upson Co., Georgia; b. Abt. 1815. More About BICAL CARPENTER: We have no record of Bical after the estate sale following her father's death. 5. vii. JOHN CARPENTER, b. Abt. 1815, Georgia; d. Aft. 1867, Georgia. 6. viii. ELEAZER 'ELY' 'ELI' CARPENTER, b. 1816, GA., prob. Putnam Co.; d. October 03, 1864, Baltimore, Md.. 7. ix. JAMES CARPENTER, b. Abt. 1817, Georgia; d. Bef. 1850. x. CAIN CARPENTER, b. Abt. 1824, Georgia. xi. JACKSON CARPENTER, b. Abt. 1825, Georgia. Generation No. 2 2. HAMILTON2 CARPENTER (JOHN1) was born Abt. 1808 in Georgia, and died Bet. 1864 - 1865 in Upson Co., Georgia. He married BERTHENA E. NORRIS March 03, 1845 in Harris County, Georgia, daughter of SAMUEL NORRIS and ELIZABETH PENTON. She was born Abt. 1825 in Georgia, and died Aft. 1880 in Upson Co., Georgia. Children of HAMILTON CARPENTER and BERTHENA NORRIS are: 8. i. CALVIN3 CARPENTER, b. 1847, Upson Co., Georgia. 9. ii. GREENVILLE N. CARPENTER, b. 1848, Upson Co., Georgia; d. Oklahoma City, OK. iii. DEBORAH A. E. CARPENTER, b. 1850. iv. JAMES T. CARPENTER, b. 1851. v. B. ANN CARPENTER, b. 1853. vi. LYDIA A. D. CARPENTER, b. 1855. vii. HAMILTON PARKS CARPENTER, b. 1857. viii. JOHN G. CARPENTER, b. 1859. ix. JEFFERSON J. (Jeff) CARPENTER, b. 1868. 3. DEBORAH2 CARPENTER (JOHN1) was born Abt. 1810 in Hancock Co., Georgia, and died Aft. 1870 in Schley Co., Georgia. She married WILLIAM HICKEY January 01, 1837 in Upson Co., Georgia. He was born Abt. 1812 in Georgia, and died Aft. 1885 in Schley Co., Georgia. Children of DEBORAH CARPENTER and WILLIAM HICKEY are: i. MARY ANN C.3 HICKEY, b. 1839, Upson Co., Georgia; m. GILLMORE. ii. BENJAMIN G. HICKEY, b. Bet. 1842 - 1843. Private in Co. G, 5th Reg., GA Vol., Army of TN, CSA, Schley Co. GA, 11 May 1861 31 Dec 1864, he was shown absent with out leave. No later record. iii. CAROLINE E. HICKEY, b. 1844, Upson Co., Georgia; m. HEAM. 4. GEORGE W.2 CARPENTER (JOHN1) was born Abt. 1811 in Georgia, and died Aft. 1880 in Stewert Co., Georgia. He married ELIZABETH LOUISA WALLACE January 05, 1832 in Putman Co., Georgia, daughter of BAALAM WALLACE and ELIZABETH CLEMENTS. She was born Abt. 1814 in Georgia, and died Aft. 1880 in Stewert Co., Georgia. More About GEORGE W. CARPENTER: Burial: Cedarwood Cemetery, Richland, GA. More About ELIZABETH LOUISA WALLACE: Burial: Cedarwood Cemetery, Richland, GA. Children of GEORGE CARPENTER and ELIZABETH WALLACE are: 10. i. JESSE3 CARPENTER, b. 1832, Georgia. ii. GEORGE CARPENTER, b. 1835, Georgia. He may have settle in Arkansas, if not Texas. 11. iii. SARAH A. CARPENTER, b. April 30, 1837, Georgia; d. November 23, 1903, prob. Stewert Co., GA. 12. iv. JOHN J. CARPENTER, b. June 04, 1841, Georgia; d. November 23, 1903, McLennan Co., TX. v. LOUISA CARPENTER, b. 1843, Georgia. 13. vi. DIADIMONA E. CARPENTER, b. July 06, 1844, Georgia; d. January 10, 1884. 14. vii. ISABELLA MISSOURI CARPENTER, b. 1846, Georgia. viii. MARY ETTA HARRIETT MORGANELLA CARPENTER, b. July 26, 1848, Georgia; m. HENRY H. KENDIRICK; b. November 23, 1843; d. January 02, 1923. ix. SOPHIA CARPENTER, b. 1850, Georgia; m. D. W. HARVEY. x. ETHELDOR CARPENTER, b. 1854, Georgia. xi. VICTORIA CARPENTER, b. May 12, 1854, Georgia; d. January 28, 1898; m. S. T. HARRY. xii. EMMA ANNA CARPENTER, b. 1856, Georgia; d. November 12, 1923; m. CHALKLEY. 5. JOHN2 CARPENTER (JOHN1) was born Abt. 1815 in Georgia, and died Aft. 1867 in Georgia. He married SARAH CUMMINGS August 23, 1846 in Upson Co., Georgia, daughter of STEPHEN CUMMINGS. She was born Bet. 1825 - 1831 in Georgia, and died Aft. 1880. In 1850 John was listed as the head of household, with wife Sarah, son Napoleon, his mother Mary and his sister Nancy was also listed in his household. John was listed as insane. In 1860, John was in the household of his bro. Ely in Randolph Co., AL. In 1860, Sarah and Napoleon were in the household of W. R. Jarrold. Sarah was listed as a domestic. Child of JOHN CARPENTER and SARAH CUMMINGS is: i. NAPOLEON3 CARPENTER, b. 1847, Georgia. 6. ELEAZER 'ELY' 'ELI'2 CARPENTER (JOHN1) was born 1816 in GA., prob. Putnam Co., and died October 03, 1864 in Baltimore, Md.. He married ANNZENA NORRIS May 10, 1846 in Tallapoosa Co., AL., daughter of SAMUEL NORRIS and ELIZABETH PENTON. She was born March 1831 in GA., and died 1900 in OK.. More About ELEAZER 'ELY' 'ELI' CARPENTER: Burial: November 01, 1864, B-46 Louden Park Cem., Confederate Lot, Baltimore, MD. Eleazar was listed in the Upson Co., GA Tax Digest in 1850, and the 1850 Upson Co., Ga Census. He purchased land in Chambers Co., AL 25th Feb 1856, deed was recorded in Randolph Co. AL He was in Chambers Co. Al in 1860, but on Randolph Co. census.(this was because of the path of creeks and rivers.) He volunteered ( Conscripted) for service and was mustered into Co. B, 64th GA Reg. Inf. CSA, as pvt Children of ELEAZER CARPENTER and ANNZENA NORRIS are: 15. i. MARY ANN3 CARPENTER, b. September 15, 1847, Ga; d. Bef. 1900, prob. Tallapoosa Co., AL. ii. JULEY ELLENDER 'DILLY' CARPENTER, b. July 19, 1848, GA.; d. September 01, 1858, GA.. She was listed in the 1850 Upson Co., Ga census with parents. She is also listed in an old Bible record as Juley Ellender. 16. iii. WILLIAM CICERO CARPENTER, b. August 01, 1850, Upson Co., GA.; d. May 25, 1931, Hico, Hamilton Co., Texas. 17. iv. ALONZO CICERO CARPENTER, b. January 10, 1852, Upson Co., Ga; d. January 28, 1936, Cordell, Washita Co, Ok. 18. v. VICTORIA LAURA ELIZABETH CARPENTER, b. December 1855, Alabama; d. December 31, 1906, Navarro Co., Texas. 19. vi. JAMES SAMUEL CARPENTER, b. May 11, 1856, Fayette, Chambers Co, Al; d. June 02, 1925, Clinton, Custer Co, Ok, T.B.Sanitarium. vii. JOHN HAMILTON CARPENTER, b. April 27, 1859. 7. JAMES2 CARPENTER (JOHN1) was born Abt. 1817 in Georgia, and died Bef. 1850. He married IRENE NORRIS January 10, 1848 in Troup Co., Georgia, daughter of SAMUEL NORRIS and ELIZABETH PENTON. She was born Abt. 1827 in Georgia. Child of JAMES CARPENTER and IRENE NORRIS is: i. SARAH A.3 CARPENTER, b. 1848, Alabama; m. JAMES D. GREER, November 06, 1865, Tallapossa Co., Alabama.