A Richard carpenter was found living in Fleetsreet in London as a possible father of Town Clerk John Carpenter. Gill carpenter quoted good 14th century material that suggested the area was not suitable for quality habitation. The area in question was the Fleet Prison, which upon further investigation was actually located on an island in the Fleet River. Fleetstreet itself was a long road that ran parallel to the Thames River. Thus the Fleet River could have only affected a small area of the Fleetsreet. In addition I quoted material that showed extremely influentual people living in Fleetsreet in the 1300s. Here is an additional such person, quoted from Patent Rolls for 1359. "The like to William de Shareshull, William de Thorpe, Robert de Thorpe, Henry Grene, William de Notton and John Lovekyn, mayor of London, touching certain satellites of the devil who plotting the death of Thomas de Setton, one of the justices of the Bench retained by the king to be one of the secret council, hired Thomas de Nesebit, chaplain, to kill him, which Thomas, when Thomas de Seton was of the king's council, entered his dwelling at Fleetstreet London, in friendly fashion and uttering fair words to him there struck him in the belly with a knife and atrociously wounded him, so that his life was despaired of." I think this and the previous material quoted re. Fleetsreet confirms that, regardless of poor conditions in one area, and a bad reputation hundreds of years later, Fleetstreet prior to John the Town Clerk was a residential area for the wealthy and educated. Sincerely, Bruce E. Carpenter