Dear Eleanor, Some of the older records are wrong on the ancestry of Abigail and her father Captain William Carpenter of Rehoboth. The data below is correct to my knowledge. The notes explain changes to this line and why. Sincerely, John R. Carpenter La Mesa, CA USA +---¦William CARPENTER Capt.-584 Abigail CARPENTER-107 ¦ ¦23 May 1605 31 May 1629 -------¦ ¦of,Wiltshire,England Shalbourne,Wiltshire,England ¦ MRIN:5248 --SPOUSE-- MRIN:197 +---¦Abigail BRIANT-659 John TITUS-635 ¦27 May 1604 18 Dec 1627 ¦Shalbourne,Wiltshire,England St. Katherine's,London,M,England (There are other marriages) --CHILDREN-- 1Samuel TITUS-638 2Joseph TITUS-639 3-Mary OR Mercy TITUS-640 4Experience TITUS-641 INDIVIDUAL DATA RIN:584 - -------------------------------------------------------- Name:William CARPENTER Capt. Sex:M ID No:2PN1-LS Birth:23 May 1605 Place:of,Wiltshire,England Chr: Place: Marr:28 Apr 1625 Spouse:Abigail BRIANT-659 Marr:Abt 1621 Spouse:Abigail (SALE) SEARLES-585 Marr: Spouse: Death:Aft 21 Apr 1659 Place:W.P.,Rehoboth,Bristol,MA Burial:Bef 7 Feb 1659 Place:Newman Cem.,East Providence,P,RI Father:William CARPENTER oW-98 Mother:Alice-27675 Notes ------------------------------------------- !NOTE: A farmer by trade. A Freeman of Weymouth 13 May 1640 and of Rehoboth 28 Mar 1645. Much information in the following books. MARRIAGE CORRECTION BELOW!!! MARRIAGE RECORD FOUND IN ENGLAND! !Number 16 in the Carpenter Memorial by Amos B. Carpenter (1898). AFN V6TJ-CO & LSD9-5L on this William has major errors. Sources below used for corrections. Captain of the Colony. !FOUNDER: Captain William Carpenter is concidered the founder of the Rehoboth MA Branch of the Carpenters. !BIRTH: Probably in Wiltshire. He spent time in Wherwell (Whirlwell or Horwell). Born 23 or 25 (in some records) May 1605. CHR: 1611 in Somerset per one record. This is about 150 miles away, however and may have belonged to another. !DEATH: 7 Feb 1658/59 in Rehoboth per some records. However this was the date his will was proven. See book note below. BURIAL: His grave is in the Newman Cemetery in Rumford, RI which used to be part of Rehoboth, MA. His maker is an ordinary field stone with the initials "W.C." carved with "1658" chisled below it. John L. Carpenter of Walpole, NH has an excellent picture which he has digitized for e-Mail use. !Some records given Abigail Sales (Searles) as wife and others Abigail Bennett, Ralph his step-brother is also listed as a spouse to Abigail Bennett. It is likely that this Williiam was married at least twice. Abigail Bennett died in 1687 in Rehoboth. If this is true the first three kids are AS and others to AB. In at least one record, Abigail Briant (Bryant) is listed as spouse. If she was a spouse, she would have been number one or one of the Abigails above under a married name? FOUND!!! !MARRIAGE: Marriage record in the Bishops' Transcripts at Shalbourne (administered by Wiltshire then but actually in Berkshire today) indicates he and Abigail "Briante" were married there on 28 April 1625. Per American Genealogist, whole number 280, Vol. 70, No. 4 October 1995. !CHILDREN: Many researchers try to put a Ephraim (b. 25 April 1651) in this family but this is in error. See the grandchild of this William, through his son named William, for the Ephraim(s) born 25 April 16XX. Many researchers say that Abraham (b. 9 Feb 1643) is in this family in error also. Yet no other individual comes close to birth or baptisim date. In the children sequence he fits and most likely died young. !Per "GENEALOGICAL & FAMILY HISTORY OF WESTERN NEW YORK," LEWIS 1912, Page 1253 Much detail given: Will dated 21 Apr 1659, Proved 7 Feb 1659, and yes they appear backwards. Will done in 1658? He married in England, Abigail ? who died 22 Feb, 1687. *On page 1318: His birth is listed as 25 May 1605. Records show he was a fine writer, a man of affairs, possessed of much ability. !OTHER INFORMATION INCLUDES BUT NOT LIMITED TO: DEPUTY TO THE GENERAL COURT FROM WEYMOUTH IN 1641-43 AND FROM REHOBOTH IN IN 1645, CONSTABLE IN 1641. HE WAS A CLOSE FRIEND TO GOVERNOR WILLIAM BRADFORD, WHO MARRIED HIS COUSIN ALICE CARPENTER. HE BOUGHT THE AREA NOW CALLED REHOBOTH (8 MILES SQUARE) FROM THE INDIANS. PROPRIETORS' CLERK FROM 1643-1649. CONTRIBUTED TOWARD THE EXPENSES OF KING PHILLIPS WAR. IN 1647, A SELECTMAN FROM REHOBOTH. HE WAS A CAPTAIN OF MILITA. !NOTE: See also San Diego Family History Center book 929.273 C226c. This orignal typed copy contains descendants not in the the 1898 book. AFN LSD9-5L is apparently the same person with Baptisim date as birth date. !BOOK:- GENEALOGY: Amos B. Carpenter, A GENEALOGICAL HISTORY OF THE REHOBOTH BRANCH OF THE CARPENTER FAMILY IN AMERICA. Also known as the CARPENTER MEMORIAL. Published 1898 By: Press of Carpenter & Morehouse, Amherst, MA. WILLIAM is listed as # 16. Pages 38 to 50. !BOOK:- GENEALOGY: Carpenter and Allied Families by Miss Annie L. Carpenter, The American Historical Society, Inc., NY, published in 1936. Page 11-13. !See LDS film #1449498; c225a; 0928227; 1404120. See Carpenter Family publication, LDS film #1685645. See Rehoboth MA Vital Records Arnold pp. 571, 578. See Rehoboth MA Vital Records Carpenter pp. 808. See Weymouth Historical Society publication N2, pp 254-287. See New England Historical & Genealogical Register Vol LXV p.65 !See Plymouth Colony Records, 12 Vols. (Boston, MA, 1861), Wills, Vol. 2, pp. 80-83. !See REF: B.B. TOPP, Carpenter Chronicles #24, Nov 1995 Contents of pages 298-300 of Emigration List, BEVIS 1638 "Portus Southon: Southon, (May 1638) The list of the names of passengers intended to shipe themselves, in the Bevis of Hampton of CL tommes, Robert Batten, Master, for New England; thus by vertue of the Lord Tresurers Warrant of the second of May, which was after the restrayne(t) & they some dayes gone to sea before the King's Mates. Proclamacon come unto Southton." (lists of names) age name 62 William Carpenter 33 William Carpenter Jun (of Horwell) 32 Abigail Carpenter 10 & under four children servant (NOTE: Southon = Southampton) !Through his five sons, Capt. William Carpenter became the father of "The Family of Heroes." Over 300 of his male lineal descendants (230 proven as of 8/96) served America in the Revolutionary War. No other American colonial man had as many. Source: Raymond George Carpenter, American Genealogist for the Carpenter Family, author of "The Family of Heroes." (serial) !BOOK: "The Carpenter Family in America from the Settlement at Providence, R.I. 1637-1901." By Daniel Hoogland Carpenter of Mapelwood, Essex, NJ. Published by the Marion Press of Jamacia, Queensborough, NY in 1901. 370 Pages. See page 354, Describing the "Visitation" or census of the College of Arms in 1623 and 1634 where it is shown that there was a number of Carpenter families in Gloucester, Hereford, Somerset, and Surrey, who made proof of their pedigrees by presenting arms which were emblazoned in the windows of the Church at Westbury upon Trin (often called the Worcester Arms). !MISC: Descendants of Captain William Carpenter are eligible for membership in the "Order of First Families of Rhode Island and Providence Plantations." For information contact the "Order" above at 45 East 200 North Street, Salt Lake City, UT 84103. end notes HIS FATHER ... INDIVIDUAL DATA RIN:98 - ---------------------------------------------------- Name:William CARPENTER of Wherwell Sex:M ID No:8MH9-NS Birth: 1576 Place:Horwell,Hampshire,England Chr: Place:of Dilwyn,,,England Marr: 1595 Spouse:Mary BATT-14690 Marr:Abt Aug 1604 Spouse:Alice-27675 Marr: Spouse: Death: 1638 Place:at sea or near,Weymouth,Norfolk,MA Burial: Place: Father:Robert CARPENTER oM-14708 Mother:Eleanor CARPENTER-14714 Notes ------------------------------------------------------- !NOTE: William came to America in 1638 in the ship "Bevis" with his son. He returned to England and died there. Per 1898 Book. A carpenter by trade? HOWEVER . . . The American Genealogist, number 280, Vol. 70, No. 4 October 1995 indicates he died during the voyage to New England in the Bevis or shortly thereafter. While many records profess his return to England, no record has been found to prove this. !NOTE: Marriage date and children seem to indicate two marriages. First one about 1598? Second in 1605. Yet another record indicates that William married Mary Batt in 1595 at Old Salisbury Parish. The 1605 date was probably for Alice who was buried in Shalbourne. Different Carpenter histories seems to only allow for one marriage, but two seems the case. Many corrections on this line has been made due to newer data being found (like wills, marriages et cetera). !BOOK- GENEALOGY: PER "GENEALOGICAL & FAMILY HISTORY OF WESTERN NEW YORK" LEWIS, 1912: PAGE 1252, 53: ...was born in England in 1576. He came to America with his wife and son William, in the ship "Bevis," in 1638, and returned in the same ship to England. He was a resident of London. PAGE 1318: ..., third son of William Carpenter, born 1576, was a Carpenter by trade and resided in London. He rented tenements and gardens in Houndsditch. Being a Dissenter, he was driven to Whirwell to escape persecution, and took the opprotunity to join his sons in emigrating to America. He was not contented on this side, however, and returned to England in the ship which brought him. !BOOK- GENEALOGY: Amos B. Carpenter, A GENEALOGICAL HISTORY OF THE REHOBOTH BRANCH OF THE CARPENTER FAMILY IN AMERICA. Also known as the CARPENTER MEMORIAL. Published 1898 By: Press of Carpenter & Morehouse, Amherst, MA. This William's father is listed as William born about 1540 in the CM, but this is wrong. Wills and deeds prove Robert as the father. !SEE: Also: Carpenter and Allied Families by Miss Annie L. Carpenter, The American Historical Society, Inc., NY, published in 1936. Page 11. !MARR PLACE: Old Salisbury Parish, England. !RESIDENCE: Horwell is the village now known as Wherwell in Hampshire. It appears the family was there only a short time, probably preparing for their voyage to New England. !MISC: Marden and Cheriton Parishes, Wherwell in Wiltshire were Puritan strongholds. Rev. Stephen Bachiler and Richard Dummer (who was on the Bevis in 1638) were actively engaged in persuading religious dissenters to join them in New England with their Plough Company. This includes William Carpenter. end notes. Eleanor Adams wrote: > > Abigail Carpenter was born 9 Apr 1643 in Weymouth, Norfolk, MA, daughter of > William Carpenter and Abigail SEARLES. She married John TITUS in 1659. At > least that is what I have thought for several years. But, I just found > some conflicting information > which has me confused. Not only was her mother referred to with a > different name, but her line of descent in the Carpenter family is shown > differently. Can anyone confirm my data? > > Eleanor Adams