This is an additional note to the Gloucestershire connection to the London Carpenters. We had seen that John Carpenter Sr. and his brother Robert held land of Thomas Duke of Gloucester in the troubled reign of King Richard II. Richard Whittington the Mayor of London and patron-friend of John Carpenter Town Clerk of London was from a gentry family in Gloucester. Whittington was asked to accompany King Richard to arrest the Duke. This had troubled me until I reread Whittington’s biography in the Dictionary of National Biography, where it quotes sources at this historical juncture of Whittington referring to both the King and the Duke as ‘his special lords and promoters’. Thus we might suppose a deeper web of interests and connections between the London Carpenters and the local situation in Gloucestershire. In my research of the London Carpenters these local interrelationships have been the most difficult to shed light on. They no doubt existed in both Warwickshire as well as Gloucestershire. Previous we had seen a document that listed Richard Carpenter with a large group of cloth-makers and dyers in Gloucestershire in political difficulties at this same time. Whittington was likewise a cloth-maker and dealer. My conclusion in all of this is that, the Carpenters and Whittingtons, were manufacturing cloth in Gloucestershire on land held of the Duke in the late 1300s. Bruce Carpenter