Previously mentioned was a document in which Richard Carpenter had an interest in property sometime of Gilbert Carpenter dated 1380. I had to that point failed to place Gilbert in London itself. Today I wish to rectify that with a February 28 Close Rolls disposition. In it, Gilberts London property is used as a reference point. In part: .and from three small houses situate without Crepulgate near the bar by a house sometime of Gilbert le Carpenter towards the south It is impossible to say if Gilbert lived in the house or merely owned it. The same case is reviewed in the Calendar of Inquisitions, but there with the mention that Gilberts property passed into the hands of a John Seman, who appears elsewhere as a currier or someone in the leather trade. Indeed the without Crepulgate area was the home of the tanners and others working with leather. The important point is the establishment of Gilbert le Carpenter in the city of London, with the other London Carpenters, in the 1300s. Sincerely, Bruce E. Carpenter