Dear Bruce, In England alliances often changed with the wind. While some were stable many were not. The Earl of Lancaster did hold major land in Hertfordshire in that time period. So the data may not be lost or forgot, on this subject, I present it to the Carpenter Roots Web Folks for their use. Regarding Wills: All I have are hand written excerpts from other researchers. The actual will of William of Homme has not been identified. Two of his sons, Richard and William have wills found believed to be theirs. See below. I asked Bette Butcher Topp to put in her Carpenter Chronicles a listing or index of Carpenter Wills found (by a researcher I paid to do so) in the Record Office in Throwbridge. The data indicate where each of the wills are located. I have not had the money or time to go there to research all of them. I have only about 14 identified from other researchers. Maybe Bette will put these in her next journal? The will of Rev. Richard Carpenter mentions sons Robert & Peter. SEE: Also: (WN & Q) Wiltshire Notes and Queries, Pages 256-258 and 293 which lists The Wilshire Wills proved in the Prerogative Court of Canterbury (1383-1558): "1503 Carpenter, Rychard, D.C.L. and priest, Remmesbury (= Ramsbury, Wilts) (Wilts?) Mixbury, Oxford. (Oxfordshire) 25 Blamyr." 25 Blamyr is the record book the above is found at the Record Office at Throwbridge. The possible will of William Carpenter son of William of Homme: The Bourne Valley Historical, Record and Conservation Society has in its archives nine hand written copies of wills in the period dated 1545 to 1661. At least five of these make a connection with the village of Newton Toney. Per Letter & copies provided by Mr. Keith P. Norris, Hon. Archivist of the above Society (53 Bouverie Avenue / Salisbury / Wiltshire SP2 8DU / England) on 17 Feb. 1997. The following will may be for this William Carpenter. "J45 - Record Book No.9 (Arch Sarum 1-81. - Registers of the Archdeacon of Salisbury Cathedral) 1547 William Carpenter, Charlton, Downton. 11 July 1547 (Dated). Maud my wife. Robert my youngest son. O'seers:- John Estman, Vincent Cocke. Witness: Robert Poope." Downton is south of Salisbury. I hope this helps. John R. Carpenter La Mesa, CA Bruce E. Carpenter wrote: > > John: > Here you go. It took me a lot of trouble > to find this so please do not forget it exists. > BC > > It appears Homme at Dilwyn in Herefortshire was a manor > with some history. In the time of Edward lll (early 1300s) the > following reference appears in the Calendar of Inquisitions > Post Mortem for Herefordshire. I quote, "Homme by > Dylewe (Dilwyn). 4a. land held of (Robert) Broun by > service of 1d. yearly." > It goes on to say, "He died in parts beyond the sea, viz in > Brittany." This is to suggest that Mr. Broun was a knight > in service during the foreign wars of the 1300s. The next paragraph > states that, 'parcel of the manor of Dylewe, which is held > of the of the Earl of Lancaster." The Earl of Lancaster conducted > the wars in France for Henry lll. > Thus we can conclude that the Homme in Dilwyn was > Lancastrian land, parceled out in return for knight > service in the 1300s. Keep in mind that the Carpenters > in subsequent years were firmly within the Lancastrian > camp and household. > Sincerely, > Bruce E. Carpenter Subject: Re: Pembryg Again Date: Wed, 6 Oct 1999 22:10:51 -0700 From: "Bruce E. Carpenter" <carp@whidbey.com> To: "John Carpenter" <jrcrin001@home.com> John: Phantom William of Homme means I have heard much about him but have never seen a reference to him in English historical records.I have heard about the wills,but I have never seen a copy. Do you have a zerox copy to send me? The William and John I found were the closest to anything like a Holme William and his brother John that I have seen. This William might be him, right? I once sent you a transcription of a document which proved that Holme was already a separate manor under Lancastrian control in the 1300s. Whould you like another copy? BC