Bruce wrote: > the "weaver" data is hardly wild speculation given > the history of this family group Beware of circular reasoning. You mustn't place the persons mentioned in a document within a family group until the evidence justifies it. Because of the mobility of clerics, the geographical proximity of Staunton to Dilwyn is weak evidence at best. The fact that the thrice- removed former holder of the property was a weaver carries no weight in deducing the connections of the present company. Note that, along among the cast of characters, William's brother John is not assigned any place of abode: he might well be from another area entirely. Verdict: not proven. John Chandler