Dear Bruce, Good Posting on Richard Carpenter and his second wife Susan Trivillian (Trevelyan)! Please note that a Robert Batt witnessed the Will of Richard Carpenter. SEE BELOW. Keep the stuff coming! Your Rehoboth, MA Carpenter Cousin ... John R. Carpenter La Mesa, CA INDIVIDUAL DATA RIN:669 - ------------------------------------------ Name:Richard CARPENTER Sex:M ID No:GG8T-DR Birth:Abt 1575/1578 Place:Nettlecomb,Somerset,England Chr: Place:of,Newton Tony,Wiltshire,England Marr: 7 Aug 1603 Spouse:Alice KNIGHT-19782 Marr: 1 Sep 1606 Spouse:Susanna TRIVILIAN-1432 Marr: Spouse: Death: 7 Aug 1625 Place:Ilchester,Somerset,England Burial:21 Sep 1625 Place:Amesbury Parish,Wiltshire,England Father:Robert CARPENTER oM-14708 Mother:Eleanor CARPENTER-14714 Notes ------------------------------------------------- !SEE "160 ALLIED FAMILIES" BY JOHN OSBORNE AUSTIN, 1893, REPRINTED 1977. (974.0 D2a) PAGE 56 AND 57. "Richard Carpenter of Amesbury" Records at Amesbury show that he was buried there this date (1625,9,21). The names of Richard and Christina are found as family names in the early records of Amesbury; and either by coincidence or from a family connection, it is found that John Carpenter, Town Clerk of London in reigns of Henry V AND Henry VI (and executor of Richard Whitington "THRICE LORD MAYOR OF LONDON" who died 1422) had for parents Richard and Christina. !WILL: A will dated 1614 witnessed by Robert Batt of Wiltshire is probably this Richard. Richard willed his property on Frog Lane in Amesbury to his son William. Thomas Lavington also witnessed the will and was the husband of Agnes Carpenter, daughter of Robert Carpenter of Upton Scudmore. !(It was probably Richard the son who went to Barbadoes in 1634 with brothers William, Thomas and Elias. See below.) !This Richard of Amesbury, Wiltshire, made a trip to America. This is the work of Harry F. Rogers, genealogist, who found this information. Sources cited: Copies of English Wills in Playfair's Britsh Antiquities (London) 1810; Davis & Owen New Peerage (London 1778) V7 page 108; L.G. PINE Burke's Peerage, Baronetage and Knightage; County Histories; Thomas Brewers Memoirss and History of the City of London School for Boys, London 1856 (Founded by John Carpenter the younger, the noted Town Clerk of London, Trice Lord Mayor of London, et cetera). !CHILD: Harry F. Rogers indicates a Dorothy Carpenter, daughter of Richard Carpenter of Amesbury married Stephen Rose At Salisbury Cathedral, Old Sarum in 1618. No mention of her as child in any other record. She possibly came from another marriage? YES! Mother was Alice Knight. !MISC: Marden and Cheriton Parishes, Wherwell in Wiltshire were Puritan strongholds. Rev. Stephen Bachiler and Richard Dummer (who was on the Bevis in 1638) were actively engaged in persuading religious dissenters to join them in New England with their Plough Company. This includes William, brother to this Richard. !MARRIAGE: To Susanna Trevilian dated 1 Sept. 1606 at Dwelly Wells Parish per "Carpenter Chronicles", Page 13, Vol. 4, 1990, by Bette Butcher Topp. Ann Kent did not marry this Richard Carpenter. !MARRIAGE: Per Mr. W.A. Lyons of the Post Office in Newton Tony, Wiltshire, England, per letter 18 Mar. 1997: The Marriage Register for Newton Tony shows: "Richard Carpenter and Alice Knight" married on "7 Aug. 1603." !BURIAL: Amesbury Parish Index and Transcript - Burials 1579-1636: "Richard Carpenter was buryed the 21 daye of September 1625." !AFN 8LBZ-V1 IS THE SAME PERSON, AS IS ID# 8MH8-Q1, AS IS ID# 8NHZ-Q0 WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE LATER BEING BORN ABT 1580, B.31 JUL 1947 SG, E.23 JAN 1947 SG AND DEATH PLACE AND DATE CONFIRMED. AFN 8LBZ-V1 (S.P. 18 MAY 1966 MT) AND ID # GG8T-DR (S.P. 12 MAY 1966) ARE THE SAME PERSON. BORN ABOUT 1542?. OF WRINGTON, SOMMERSET, England OR AMESBURY, WILTSHIRE, England. !Parents: Early Carpenter books has him the son of William & Abigail Carpenter. However this is wrong. Parentage corrected by wills found in England. end notes. Bruce E. Carpenter wrote: > > I am finding some interesting data in Oxford > University documents and thought the following might > be of use to Providence Carpenters. > > "Richard Carpenter,pleb., b. 1575, M. 28 May 1592 age > 15, B.A. 19 Feb. 159 5/6; Corn. 1596, res.30 June 1606; > M.A. 7 Nov. 1598, B.D. 25 June 1611, D.D. 10 Feb. 161 6/7; ?V. of > Cullompton 12 Feb 1601, res. 1626, Eccl. Ant. i. 114; R.of > Sherwill 1605, Georgeham 1606, Loxhore 1611, d. Loxhore 18 Dec.1627 > age 52; m. Susanna d. of John Trevelyan of Nettlecombe, Som.; Travelyan > Papers (Camden Soc.) iii.p. XXV. (battels at that time); Drake 246; Reg. 16 > July > 1602 'dimidia pars pecuniarum mutuo concessa est M. Carpenter quas > expensurus esset in novis > extruendis musaeis supra cameram suam, quae inferiori parti > sacelli ex adverso oppononitur; eadem prorsus conditione > et lege qua antea 13o die Martii pecuniae mutuo datae sunt > maistris Baskerville et Chambers aedificaturis"; Clark i. 213 > Nat. Biog. > > Sorry for the abbreviations and Latin. The data is > from the REGISTER OF EXETER COLLEGE. There were other Carpenters, > and Batts, associated with this Oxford University College. > > Sincerely, > Bruce 'de Rehoboth' Carpenter