Hi- I am really in need of some help! ( Note- The numbers after the names are the numbers in the "Carpenter family in America.") I have corresponded with one of you who has the Carpenter website- who couldn't help me. I have a research project due by Oct. 15th for independent study in a family history class. Here is the problem! I have both the Carpenter and Quintard genealogy and it seems that neither one has enough information on the Thomas Carpenter(55)- p. 96 who I am looking for -According to the Carpenter genealogy, he was born in 1726, son of Joseph Carpenter(19)at Oyster Bay, Long Island- he married 1. Ann Stocker in abt. 1748- she apparently died and then he married Lucretia Burroughs Quintard on 29 August, 1781 at St. Georges, Hempstead, Long Island. He served under Delancey - fought on the British side and at the end of the war, he went to New Brunswick. I have found a land grant for Lieut. Thomas Carpenter in New Brunswick. I have the Quintard genealogy back to France- they were Huguenots who fled France to Bristol, England and then to NY and settled in Stamford before 1700. According to the Carpenter genealogy, Thomas (55) and Lucretia went to Nova Scotia ( which became New Brunswick) where he had land granted to him- and then by 1797, they were back in New York in Saratoga where they sold their land in Stamford, CT. The genealogy also lists one son for him, Thomas (146) b. 1757. I looked him up and found that this Thomas married Edith Bunce and was a "very prominent man in religious circles and also politically- " He was an alderman of the Methodist church, etc. The author states " while somewhat in doubt as to the correctness of this pedigree, etc." His son, Thomas is 399a and I can't find anything further on 399a. Here is my problem: If the same Thomas ( 55)( born 1726) married Lucretia Quintard in 1781, then he was 106 yrs old when he died in 1831. They settled in Lansingburg, Troy, New York ( not far from Saratoga) The records of Trinity Episcopal Church of Lansingburg ( cemetery- obits, etc) state that he died 14? of May, 1831 aged 76 yrs. That means he was born in 1755 0r 1756. ( very close to the 1757 birth date of Thomas ( 149) son of Thomas and Ann Stocker. Beside his gravestone is Lucretia Q. Carpenter, wife of Thomas Carpenter, d. 23 May, 1816 at age 55 yrs. According to the Quintard genealogy, she was born in 1761 which fits. Of note is that her mother, Lucretia Burroughs, wife of Isaac Quintard died in Stamford, CT on the 10 Sept. 1796- therefore, the land they sold in 1797 was probably the Stamford property that she had inherited from her mother ( who was a widow- her father had died in 1794) It seems that the Quintards were also loyalists although I don't know that they left Stamford - Lucretia's two paternal aunts married loyalists (Ketchum and Hubbard) moved to Nova Scotia ( and then St. John, NB) and her 2 sisters married husbands who were prob loyalists- (Leake and Wilson) since they moved from CT to NYC and/or Long Island and eventually settled in Albany ( in the same area as Lansingburg and Troy- they were all in Albany County at the time) I have found a Lieut. Thomas Carpenter from the New Brunswick grantbook database who was given a grant in Parr Town ( which I believe was later St. John) in 1784 ( NS) and 1785 ( NB) - That could be him but in any case, Thomas and Lucretia had at least 3 children born bet. 1788 and 1793. ( there could have been more) Of note is that both Lucretia's aunts were also in the same parish and town in New Brunswick ( the Hubbards and Ketchums) Later, when Thomas and Lucretia moved to NY, both her sisters and their families were there also. I am not certain how many Carpenters went to NB first and then ended up in Albany area of NY- I have found both a Thomas and a Joseph Carpenter in the Albany area ( or Lansingburg) in the 1820 census index. Does anyone have any ancestors ( Carpenters) from that part of NY state? or a Thomas ( son of Thomas and Ann Stocker) - No.146 The one who was an alderman in the Methodist church in NY- born in 1757? The reason I am trying to locate anyone who might have him in their ancestry is b/c the author was uncertain of the "correctness of this ancestry" and I wonder if that Thomas was the son of Thomas and Ann Stocker and the husband of Lucretia Quintard. That would make sense! The strange way I found the Carpenter family was that my ggreat-grandmother had a prenuptial agreement signed with her husband to be b/c her mother had died when she was a baby and her grandfather had left her mother's share of his estate to her- Her mother was Elizabeth Quintard (Carpenter) Taylor b. 1793 d. 1823( d/o Thomas and Lucretia Carpenter) as written in her obit and/or on gravestone- ( wife of Dr. John Taylor)- they are all buried in the Trinity Episcopal Church cemetery in Lansingburg. Although I knew that Lucretia Taylor ( my ggreat-grandmother was the daughter of Elizabeth Quintard Taylor, I first discovered that her mother's maiden name was Carpenter and her grandfather was Thomas because of the prenuptial agreement! Then, I found the rest of the connections- but I still can't make the connection as to who were the parents of Thomas Carpenter the loyalist! I have contacted St. George Church in Hempstead where they were married and the warden saye the records are in the vault- I live in California and he is willing to search but he does not know when he may have time to do it- I need to do a search on the two marriages ( Thomas and Anne Stocker) and Thomas and Lucretia Quintard. The records have never been copied by the LDS- only some marriages in the early 1700s- and the warden does not think anyone has copied them. I am going to be in New England at Thanksgiving and if possible, I thought I would try to get to the church in Hempstead but with grandchildren in tow, I don't know! I live in California- and would appreciate any input that anyone has concerning this line of the family. Or any suggestions where to look? Thank you- Annabel Bixby abixby@home.com