Maurice Carpenter, thought to be born in Ypres in abt. 1280, and the thought to be father of a Jean le Carpenter born abt. 1304 in France who is alleged to have died aft. at Dilwyn in Herefordshire, can be demonstrated to be wholly implausible. There was actually a Carpenter (Carpentier) family who resided in Ypres at the time.Their names, social status and professions are extant to be studied. A son of Maurice Carpenter, Pierre Carpentier was a textile manufacturer at the time (drapier a Ypres). A relative, Lippin le Carpentier, was a burgomaster of the city itself, an important position to be sure, and an indication of the prestige and wealth the Ypres Carpenters enjoyed. Pierre had to be a grown man in order to manage a family and a textile making business. A safe estimate puts his birth at least when the birth of Maurice was in 1280. In actuality Maurice had to be born at least near 1250, or much earlier. Another objection to Maurice is a common sense one. Why would a fifty-year-old, or much older man, be doing living in England in 1300, with a new family, while the rest of his old family stayed behind? The origins of the Maurice connection to Carpenter history began when in 1912 Edward Carpenter included a Maurice Carpenter or Carpendar from Gloucester in his book Samuel Carpenter and His Descendants. This Maurice comes from a notation in a Herald’s Visitation; he is just a name with no historical connections. I have never seen the name Maurice Carpenter in the hundreds of books that I have looked through. I am sure the two Maurices lived, but they are hardly the same people. My own source for Ypres Carpentiers is, Histoire Industrie Drapiere Flandre, Bruxelles, 1924. Bruce Carpenter