John: William of Homme, like other names in early Carpenter family history, are essentially phantoms i.e. just names with no apparent reality to attach to them. My enthusiam for the Pembryg document was that it was actual historical evidence that recorded Carpenters, in at least the neighborhood of Dilwyn, in early 1500s. I have never found one bit of concrete evidence that actually places any Carpenter near Dilwyn in any of the hundreds of texts that I have looked through. The Pembryg document tells us that a William Carpenter (with a brother John) "did his clerical thing" in a church a horse trot from Dilwyn. This I thought, and still think, is reason enough to break out the sherry. Bruce