In a message dated 9/12/99 9:14:55 AM Pacific Daylight Time, rchristo@intrepid.net writes: << I would even take it another step and suggest another list for the Carpenter's that come from the Zimmerman line >> How does a new researcher know they come from the Zimmerman line till they get back that far. Would that mean they would have to belong to both lists? No need to reply this is just food for thought. Isn't there a Zimmerman list?