Yikes!!! Could all this "discussion" about physical appearances uncovered a clue to my elusive Carpenter couple Ira and Adelia (Cook) Carpenter? The only "historical" tidbit the family has maintained was that somehow this Carpenter couple had a connection somehow with Lincoln and Adelia had gone to Lincoln's inaugural ball. Can anyone tell me about this Frank Carpenter from the page Bruce and Chuck provided? (http://www.geocities.com/~newgeneration/fbc.htm)?? Now for a little fun......I live in No. Attleboro, MA (once a part of Rehoboth). My children are Carpenters multiple times over...My Paternal gr grandmother was a Rehoboth Carpenter......she was a "good sized" woman and had the thickest ankles I've ever seen! Her father George was huge, rotund and a farmer as most of the Rehoboth to Cumberland branch was. My mother descends from the Providence branch and I don't know details of their physical appearance. My mother-in-law descends from the same branch. My father-in-law is a Carpenter tho I have yet to find his origins (see Ira and Adelia above). My father-in-law is of slight build (5'10) about 165 and small boned. He is an intellectual (a Phd) but prefers his life in the farm country of New England and has the best organic garden and compost you've ever seen! So with my children having Carpenter blood from all grandparents...I'll get back to you in 10 years when their full grown to let you know which description they favor! Any info on Frank the painter out there??? Laurie Carpenter