In a message dated 9/2/99 2:20:31 PM Eastern Daylight Time, jrcrin001@home.com writes: << Name:Francis Bicknell CARPENTER Sex:M ID No: Birth: 6 Aug 1830 Place:Homer,,NY Chr: Place: Marr: 6 Jan 1853 Spouse:Augusta Herrick PRENTISS-22911 Marr: Spouse: Marr: Spouse: Death:23 May 1900 Place:,,NY >> Thanks so much John! I ran a search for a Frank B. Carpenter and came up with 1860 Livingston County (No. Dansville) N.Y........further down the page was an Ira Carpenter in Livingston County (Conesus)! I'm wondering aloud..... I do know Ira had some connection at one point to shipping on Lake Erie...and I have a son William born to he and Adelia in NY in 1847 (no town given on death cert) . Wow..maybe this was the break I needed!! Again thanks for your response, John! Anyone know anything of the livingstone County NY Carpenters? Laurie