MarRoh@aol.com wrote: > I have sat here silently, hoping that someday someone would mention something > on at least two of my Carpenter ancestors. No one has yet and I could wait, > but I seem to do more deleting than reading because of the bickering.. Same here Marj... actually I am not so interested in who the FIRST Carpenter was as who were the parents of my grandfather. I want to trace my OWN family tree in a lazy kinda way. I just want names and dates of my direct line. I don't really even care how they made their living so much as who they were and where they lived...so why would I care if they were royalty, a clerk or a cabinet maker??? > > A long time ago someone said that Bruce had this wonderful database and I > tried to get into it and see if my people were there. I couldn't and in > emailing him for help I got the runaround. I felt I was wasting my > time...and it seemed I was wasting his. I e-mailed him all excited because my Father's name was Bruce Carpenter and I was curious as to maybe Bruce being a family name of some usage. He ignored me. My family was from Illinois as of late and therefore probably of no consequence to him so why should he bother with lil ole me??? > > > So I will put my names out again, before I unsubscribe, and hope that someone > has heard of these people. I would appreciate even a clue that I could hunt > down. > > I have Mary Ann Carpenter (pension papers on husband are sloppily written. > It could have been Carpentient) She was b in 1822 (I don't know where) and > was married in Saratoga to David STurges. That was in 1844. They moved to > Cleveland before 1850, but had one child, James Aaron Sturges, born in NY. > Many more children were born in OH and she died of bronchitis in 1890 in > Cleveland Now.. I have some Fulfers that were married to Carpenters that were from Ohio. I am still researching that...and, I have my grandmother who was once married to a Sturgis or Sturges...his name was Bond Sturges. > > The other one is Ann Carpenter b about 1772, possibly from CT. She d 28 Oct > 1806 in Lyndon VT. She married Thomas Scott Sr and had three children that I > know of. Mary, Thomas Jr and Ann who is my ggggrandmother. > > I have one other Carpenter who lived in Dutchess Co. She was Sarah and was > married to John Ward about 1852. I have her lineage pretty well proven. Also...the grandmother that was married to Bond Sturges had been married to Arthur Emerson Ward who is my maternal grand-father. He was born in Alma, Michigan before 1900. All of my people came from the Illinois, Michigan and Indiana parts that lie around Lake Michigan. The grandfather that I am looking for is William M. (have no idea what the 'M' stands for. It would help a lot if I did.) Carpenter. He was born in Mattoon, Illinois, according to my father's BC...in 1875 or 1876. This is about all I know except that he abandoned Mammon Mattie (Martha Jane Fulfer) and my daddy, Bruce, and his sister, Merline... and ran off with an oriental woman who was a hairdresser. He later died in Terre Haute, Indiana. I have been looking for info on him for years. Thanks...and bless you Marj, CC Carpenter