I am enjoying all of the information from John, Tony and Bruce - I have copied most of it (113 pages now). My computer has been down for almost a month now and I am just back on line. I would love to find out which Carpenter line is mine, but I can't even find my grandfather's information. I have submitted my Carpenters several times and have never received a response from anyone. There must be someone out there from my line; it is .... Arthur DeVere Carpenter (1867-194?) (I think he was born in New York). He married Grace Murdock, b. 1874-196? in PA. They had the following children: Bernar (no dates), DeVere b. 1893 NY, Elizabeth b. 1895 DE, Herman, b. 1901 CO, Helene b. 1903 CO, and Harry Murdock 7/13/1910 Seattle WA. Arthur was a lecturer on The Chautauqua circuit. I have posted in that NY area, but have had no responses. They eventually settled in Seattle, WA and later moved to Long Beach, CA. I remember my father telling me that Arthur left Grace and went to Australia for 10 years. have posted in that NY area, but have had no responses. Any help with this family would be greatly appreciated. Joyce Carpenter Sharpley TASJCS@AOL.com