I wish to express my apologies here to the Zimmerman-Carpenters for any lessening of pleasure they might have enjoyed from the forum. I particularly regret that some have left the forum. It is I think a difficult situation, at best, when two families are cramped and camped in the same narrow space. The Zimmerman-Carpenters have shown signs of fatigue syndrome with ancient English Carpenter history, and that is to be expected. The Zimmerman-Carpenter is a great family in the history of America, a family that paid the highest possible compliment to my own New England family by sharing its name. Most sincerely, Bruce E. Carpenter