My father was a well built man, just over 6 ft. and what I call "square" built. His only brother looked much like Dad in the face and was also tall, but slim. Yet this man's son, my cousin, is a dead-ringer for my dad! He's even bigger - very a large build overall. Many people often thought my cousin was my dad's son. Me, I'm 5'2", a medium build. Funny how genes go.... I need to look at the pictures Chuck and Bruce are describing and see if there are any similarities... Two or three of my dad's sisters were short and thin. The others were "stocky", well built. This may have come from our Pommerich side (grandma was a pretty rotund German woman!). A comment on Carpenters who were/are carpenters by trade. My father, Clarence Frank ("Carpy") Carpenter was a self-taught carpenter. He always took great pride in having a profession the same as his name. Even if we did not originally descend from such tradesmen, I am very proud to have a name that also has been a profession in my family (at least once). It makes for a great conversation piece as well. :) I wonder how many others out there have carpenters by trade in their line? Mary === Mary C. Carpenter Quaternary Studies Program "Where Death is Just the Beginning!" NAU Box 5644 Northern Arizona University Flagstaff, AZ 86011 Ph. (520) 523-1718 __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com