Dear Robin, There were about 5 Timothy Carpenters born about 1700 in the NY and surrounding areas. I remember that some had been confused with each other in the past. Below is a summary of each. INDIVIDUAL DATA RIN:8 - -------------------------------------------------- Name:Timothy CARPENTER Sex:M ID No: Birth:Abt 1715 Place:,Westchester,NY Chr: Place: Marr:Abt 1738 Spouse:Elizabeth ANDERSON-58 Marr: Spouse: Marr: Spouse: Death:Aft 4 Dec 1787 Place:Pittstown,Rensselaer,NY Burial:Bef 15 Feb 1806 Place:Troy,Rensselaer,NY Father:Silas CARPENTER-19869 Mother:Jean OR Jane THORNYCRAFT-9469 Notes ---------------------------------------------- !The Timothy Carpenter of Pittstown, NY was born abt 1715 not 24 Oct 1721. The error was found and corrected using the following information. 1) Letter of Charles L. Carpenter in 1976 indicating that the Timothy Carpenter born 24 Oct 1721 was not his Timothy Carpenter, and the addenda (update) to the Timothy Carpenter book dated 3 May 1984 by the same person. 2) Carpenter Related Family History Journal, Vol. 3, No.1, page 11: SOURCE: A corrected will of the New York Historical Society Collections Volumnes found by Louise Carpenter Licklider states in abstract: "In the name of God, Amen. January 3, 1728/1729, I, Silas Carpenter of North Castle, in Westchester County, Blacksmith. I leave to my wife, Jane, one-third of all moveables. All houses and lands to be sold. I leave to my daughters, Hannah and Phebe, 10 pounds each when of age. The rest to be put at interest until my three sons, William, TIMOTHY, and Silias, are of age and then divided among them. I make William Craft and William Carpenter, Jr., both of Long Island, and my wife, Jane, Executors. Witnesses, Adam Ireland, Job Wright, Nataniel Carpenter. Proved Feburary 11, 1728/1729." 3) Raymond George Carpenter concurs and James Ausie Carpenter states, "I am so happy for Charlie that after all these years of failure to gain through Louise A-1 proof of Lineage." end notes INDIVIDUAL DATA RIN:4919 - ---------------------------------------------------- Name:Timothy CARPENTER Sex:M ID No:SCS1-JX Birth:Abt 1699/1700 Place:Jamaica,,LI Chr: Place: Marr: Spouse: Marr: Spouse: Marr: Spouse: Death: Place: Burial: Place: Father:Samuel CARPENTER-3341 Mother:Sarah-3342 Notes ------------------------------------------------ !Number 94 in the Carpenter Memorial. Page 63 No family listed. No further data. Did he move west? AFN SCS1-JX (abt 1699) and AFN NXGC-33 (1700) are the same. end notes INDIVIDUAL DATA RIN:5319 - --------------------------------------------------- Name:Timothy CARPENTER Sex:M ID No:MTL7-VN Birth:Abt 1700 Place:Musketa Cove,Long Island,LI,NY Chr: Place: Marr: Spouse: Marr: Spouse: Marr: Spouse: Death: Place: Burial: Place: Father:Nathaniel CARPENTER Capt.-625 Mother:Tamar Wright COLES-5308 Notes ----------------------------------------------- no notes INDIVIDUAL DATA RIN:12558 - ------------------------------------------------- Name:Timothy CARPENTER Sex:M ID No: Birth: 1 Apr 1698 Place:Musketa Cove,Queens,LI Chr: 4 Jan 1698 Place:of,Long Island,NY Marr:Bef 1720 Spouse:Phebe OR Phoebe COLES-19929 Marr: Spouse: Marr: Spouse: Death:Aft 21 Jul 1763 Place:North Castle,Westchester,NY Burial:Bef 24 May 1769 Place:Chapaqua Cem.,Westchester,NY Father:William CARPENTER-622 Mother:Elizabeth Smith MUDGE-4845 Notes ------------------------------------------------ !Number 25 in the book, Carpenter Family in America, 1901 by Daniel H. Carpenter. Family on page 75 and 76. See father's notes! This Timothy removed from Hempstead to North Castle about 1720, some 50 miles, in Westchester, NY where he purchased a farm on which he resided until his death. He was interred in the quaker burial ground at Chapaqua. WILL: His will was dated 21 Jul 1763, proved 24 May 1769 and admitted to probate on 30 Aug 1769, and is recorded in the Surrogate's office in the City of New York. His sons William, Benjamin, and Timothy as executors. The will mentions wife: Phebe; sons: WIlliam, Archelaus, Benjamin, Timothy and daughter: Phebe Forman. SEE: The New York Historical Society Collections for the Year of 1898, pp. 273-274. Early Wills of Westchester County, NY, 1898, pg. 273. FAMILY: Timothy 2nd, born 4 Jan 1698, as listed in the James Usher book, has been proven wrong regarding his father. This is still subject to great debate. Per Carpenter Family in America, 1901 by Daniel H. Carpenter and Raymond George Carpenter, genealogist, et cetera. SEE: Genealogical and Historical Record of the Carpenter Family, by James Usher Page 30 regarding The Carpenter Family of Long Island and NY. Of the Cotleb Zimmerman line per that record. But parents are wrong. Did this Timothy own land in 1718, near Armonk, Westchester County, NY? NO! It was the Timothy Carpenter, son of Silas C.! SEE: Letter to Members of the Carpenter Fund Association, 10 Nov. 1882 Poughkeepsie, NY. By W. C. Barker, Pres't Carpenter Fund Association. It gives some descendants, but has this Timothy's parents wrong. BOOK: See page 14 (#5 for notes) of the Mowrey 1997 book. See book information below: UPDATE OF THE GENEALOGY OF THE NEW ENGLAND CARPENTER FAMILY OF ENGLISH ORIGIN - THE VIRGINIA / WEST VIRGINIA BRANCH - SOME DESCENDANTS OF JOSEPH CARPENTER - PIONEER OF THE JACKSON RIVER - MOWREY"S VERSION. BY TERRY LEE CARPENTER AND PAUL THOMAS MOWREY. PRO BONO PUBLICO - PRIVATELY PUBLISHED, DOVER, OHIO, 1997. BY PAUL THOMAS MOWREY. end notes INDIVIDUAL DATA RIN:19906 - ------------------------------------------------ Name:Timothy CARPENTER Sex:M ID No: Birth:Abt 1711/1713 Place:of,Musketa Cove,Long Island,NY Chr: Place: Marr: Spouse: Marr: Spouse: Marr: Spouse: Death: Place: Burial: Place: Father:Benjamin CARPENTER Capt.-630 Mother:Mercy COLES-2188 Notes --------------------------------------------- !Went from Oyster Bay area over to Ulster and Orange counties area. No further information is found. end notes I hope this clears some of your questions. John R. Carpenter La Mesa, CA Robin Carpenter wrote: > > Carpenter Memorial (p. 63) says Timothy Carpenter (#94, of Samuel 27, of > John 17) "was b. about 1700." And nothing more of him. Another source > (which I can't cite at the moment) says this Timothy owned land at Goshen NY > (but doesn't say whether he lived there, although all his brothers did). > Does anyone here know anything further about this Timothy? > Robin