Dear Lucy, The data on that web page has the incorrect ancestry. They have the old data line before wills were found correcting that line. Below is the correct ancestry. The James Carpenter they had is still in the lineage, but a different place. By comparing the dates and ancestry - you can see the Jeans/Johns that were being discussed were ... 1) John b. abt 1303/05 - the son of Maurice & father of Richard who married Christina. 2) Jean the father of Maurice born about 1250 AD whose title was Lord of Daniel et Avesnes les Aubert, Du Nord, France. William CARPENTER of Wherwell-98 B: 1576 Horwell,Hampshire,Eng M: Aug 1604 --10012 ,Wiltshire,England D: 1638 at sea or near,Weymomouth,MA (The father of Captain William Carpenter of Rehoboth, MA (b. 1605) 1st 2nd 3rd +1 +W CARPENTER oM--¦ ¦ +2 +Robert CARPENTER¦ ¦ ¦ +3 ¦ +E CARPENTER-----¦ ¦ +4 W CARPENTER oW Alice ¦ +5 ¦ +Robert CARPENTER¦ ¦ ¦ +6 +E CARPENTER-----¦ ¦ + +Isabella STORKE-¦ + 4th 5th _R CARPENTER R___b. 1465/70 father is (7) 1 +Robert CARPENTER¦_________________ -¦ _________________ 2 +Elizabeth-------¦_________________ 4th 5th _James CARPENTER_b. 1460 father is (7) 3 +John CARPENTER--¦_(CARPENTER)_____ -¦ _________________ 4 +Abigail---------¦_________________ _W CARPENTER WoH_b. 1440 is (7) 5 +W CARPENTER 2nd-¦_(CARPENTER)_____ -¦ _________________ 6 +Maud------------¦_________________ (7) William CARPENTER William of Homme-91 B: Abt 1440 Homme,Hertfordshire, Eng. M: --210 D: Abt 1520 of,Dilwyne,Herefordshire, Eng. BEPS 6th 7th 8th +John the elder CARPENTER (8) | (b. abt 1360/1364) ¦(brother to the Noted Town Clerk +John t CARPENTER¦ of London - John the younger) ¦ ¦ ¦ +(CARPENTER)----- ¦ (7) W CARPENTER WoH (CARPENTER) ¦ +---------------- ¦ ¦ +(CARPENTER)-----¦ ¦ +---------------- (8) Richard CARPENTER-86 - (He married Christina) B: Abt 1335 of London,Middlesex M: --18 ,,,England B: 1395 St.Martin Church,Ou 9th 10th 11th +Maurice le CARPENTIER-b. 1275/80 in France ¦(his father was Jean b. abt 1250 in France) +John CARPENTIER-¦-(Jean in France) ¦ ¦ ¦ +---------------- ¦ R CARPENTER (See data above - Parents of John the younger) Christina the Noted Town Clerk of London) ¦ +---------------- ¦ ¦ +(CARPENTER)-----¦ ¦ +---------------- I hope this clears up the confusion and the relationship to the Rehoboth line of Carpenters. You can see why the great confusion of who was who because of the multiple Carpenter lines and the close relationships. Sincerely, John R. Carpenter La Mesa, CA USA Slbrin@aol.com wrote: > > Hi John > I checked that site again and I > gave you the wrong URL. I'm very sorry. The correct one is > http://www.halcyon.com/millerm/ > Let me know if this works. > Lucy