Richard, That question is the oldest one since before what came first the chicken or the egg Unfortunatly our ancestors were not to original on first names so this is only speculation we all would like proof Itried to get info on that family before the left NY toVa but the local hist societies are a distance away I got to Rye & Port Chester,I need to go next yr to New Castle & North Castle next towns over- I can look up info in NY someone needs to go to Virgina & search there for proof Last yr we had a discussion group going on that on this web John L. Carpenter Searching for Carpenter family decendants of William Carpenter of Providence, RI check my home pages at the following URL's http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/c/a/r/John-L-Carpenter/index.html http://expage.com/page/carpenterlinks http://homepages.msn.com/PicnicPl/jcarp45 >Finally!!!!! After weeks of useless prating, there is something good on this website! >I will repeat what I have said before, that when you eggheads can tell me who Jeremiah Carpenter's father was and where Joseph Carpenter of Jackson River, VA, came from, then I will believer the fairy tales you tell about ancient English ancestors! >PROOF PROOF PROOF >No fairy tales please. >Richard L. Carpenter >a Carpenter researcher for the last 16 years. > >