I think this has gone on long enough. It seems that most of us would like to get back into shareing our information. I may not have but one name on my list so far for the name Caepenter, but I join this list to get some help. I may not have wront my name to the list yet . But it seems that the two of you may have forgot that you both are grow men. SO PLEASE TAKE ME OFF THIS LIST.. I know longer want to read this debate..... Thanks for takeing me off the list. Hope A.S.Gomez CGomez5077@aol.com