Hi John: Sorry to take so long in getting this information to you. I tried to download it and send it but couldn't get it through because of the enriched format. So here goes: Benjamin Carpenter, b. 1 May 1803, conflict in location--most of my sources say New York, but one says England. He died 18 Oct. 1866, Black Earth, Dane County, Wisconsin. He was married in New York (I presume) to Mary E. Achor. She was born 16 June 1813 in Oppenheim, Fulton County, New York. She died 10 Sept. 1902 in Black Earth, Dane County, Wisconsin. Both Benjamin and Mary are buried in Oak Hill Cemetery, Black Earth, Dane County, Wisconsin. Her parents were Lowrick Achor and Mary E. Bellenger. I have been unable to find any information on either of them. I know there were numerous Bellenger/Bellinger families in the area, but no one seems to have any information on her. Benjamin and Mary had nine children: 1. Amelia, c. 1829, New York State, m. ? Mowbray. They had one known child Jennie Mowbray 2. Mary E., c. 1838, New York State 3. Alvina, c. 1840, New York State 4. John Morrison Carpenter, b. 22 Aug. 1840, Boonville, Oneida County, New York. He died 15 Jul. 1921 in Sutherland, Lancaster County, Nebraska. He married on 11 Jan. 1868 in Black Earth Township, Dane County, Wisconsin, Mary Elizabeth Rowbotham. She was born in Westernville, Oneida County, New York on 11 Jan. 1849 and died on 1 Nov. 1935 in Sutherland, Lancaster County, Nebraska. Her parents were Robert Rowbotham of Yorkshire, England and Mary Ann Beebe of Westernville, Oneida County, New York. (I have more info on these people and their children if anyone is interested). John and Mary had 2 known children: Robert Benjamin, b. 17 Mar. 1869 in Black Earth, Dane County, Wisconsin. He married Sadie Young about Aug. 1901 in Sutherland, Lancaster County, Nebraska. Frank Amriah, b. 15 Feb. 1871 in Black Earth, Dane County, Wisconsin. He married Alice Amanda Johnson, b. 3 Sept. 1875 in St. Paul, Nebraska, on 22 Dec. 1892 in St. Paul, Nebraska. Frank and Alice had 2 known children: Esther Margaret, b. 13 Mar. 1898 in St. Paul, Nebraska. She married on 10 Sept. 1924, in New York City, New York, Ivan Clare Lawler, b. 20 Nov. 1896, Jacksboro, Texas. Helen Marie, b. 24 Nov. 1900. She married on 15 Nov. 1923, in Dallas, Texas, Floyd Elmer Blount. 5. George Robert, b. 7 Sept. 1841, Westernville, Oneida County, New York, d. 8 Jul. 1887 (malignant measles). He married on 9 May 1860 in Vermont Township, Dane County, Wisconsin, Phebe Ann McWilliams (birth name) Finlayson (adoptive name). She was born in Grenville, Ontario, Canada. George and Phebe Ann had the following children (this is my line going through to my 6 month old grand-daughter; if anyone would like further information, I would be happy to furnish it): Francis William "Bill" Frederick, b. 28 Jan. 1864, Black Earth, Dane County, Wisconsin. He married Louisa "Lizzie" Hacker, b. 2 June 1867, Black Earth, Dane County, Wisconsin. Etta Pearl, b. 29 April 1866, Black Earth, Dane County, Wisconsin. She married 1. Charles Smith of Blue Mounds, Dane County, Wisconsin; 2. Edward Charlesworth Bardsley. 6. Barnard, c. 1848; he died of disease during the Civil War in a prison in Alexandria, Louisiana at the age of 16. 7. Irene, c. 1849. She married ? Renu/Renfru. They had one child, Birdie Renu/Renfru. She married Frank Kerr. 8. William, c. 1852. 9. Ellen, c. 1856. She married John Orcutt. They had one known child, Verna. Hope this gives you some information to go on John. Thanks for everything. Sincerely, Linda Carpenter Fry Richland Center, Wisconsin John Carpenter wrote: > > Dear Linda, > > I am not Professor Carpenter, but a humble Carpenter compiler. > > There is a story of a Hessian soldier who was captured or deserted the > English army and was paroled by the Americans. He was a carpenter by > trade and moved west. He became a fur trapper and soon realized he > would be better off as a middleman. He set up a place in the Turtle > Mountains of present day North Dakota just east of the International > Peace Gardens. There he bought and sold for a trading company. > He married a indian wife and had several children. After she died he > moved back east remarried (but no children) and when two of his sons > visited he lost his wife and reputation. He went west with his son and > was never heard from again. > According to an old researcher, this story was true. I have verified > the village of Carpenter (now a ghost town and burned out post office), > and historical records showing indians with the Carpentier last name. > I visited there many years ago, but could not find any local Carpenters > (Carpentiers). > > James Usher has the story of 3 german Zimmermans renamed Carpenter who > went to Wales, England for a generation or two before moving to LI. The > story has some truth with historical people (including Carpenters), but > has been accepted as a false genealogy. The Carpenter Association of > the time period of the mid to late 1800s were interested in a great > fortune to be had in England, waiting for the right heirs to claim it. > They felt that Revolutionary War Loyalsts (who sided with the English > Crown) were unloyal Americans who did not deserve a chance at the loot. > Thus they were disowned and called Zimmerman/Carpenters. They did the > same to the Southern Carpenters who fought for the Confederate States of > America in the War Between the States (Civil War). > > The reason for the two above stories is because they seem a part of your > verbal history. > > I have two Benjamin Carpenters who may match your data. > > +---¦Barnard CARPENTER-13221 > Benjamin CARPENTER-39429 ¦ ¦21 Dec 1756