While this list is so busy, I thought I would post my brick wall Carpenters again in hope that someone would recognize the names - Looking for my grandfather, Arthur DeVere Carpenter b. 1867-194? (I think in New York). He married Grace Murdock, b. 1874-196? in PA. They had the following children: Bernar (no dates), DeVere b. 1893 NY, Elizaeth b. 1895 DE, Herman, b. 1901 CO, Helene b. 1903 CO, and Harry Murdock 7/13/1910 WA. Arthur was a lecturer on The Chautauqua circuit. I have posted in that NY area, but have had no responses. Any help with this family would be greatly appreciated. Joyce Carpenter Sharpley TASJCS@AOL.com