Professor (and believe me when I use that term loosely!!): I too have Carpenter roots. Whether or not they are the same as yours makes absolutely no difference to me. Please try to use a little decorum and respect when dealing with others on this list. We are not your "peasants" no matter how grandious an opinion you may have of yourself. I have kept quiet for weeks until I can take no more but I refuse to unsubscribe to a list that I am entitled to use as well as you or anyone else. Let's give the attitude an adjustment. PLEASE! Patti Clearwater,Florida