Dearest Carpenters: As I mentioned previously, the vast, vast majority of present English Carpenters are dscendants of timber tossing carpenters of trade. They surely must be well built. However the Rehoboth and Providence Carpenters are descendants of landowners and merchants. These were people who used their brains and not their brawn. My Carpenters are all tall, thin boned with fine chisled facial features. They (including myself) were never in love with physical work, even on the farm. In the Carpenter Memorial, on p. 376, is a picture of Philo Carpenter. He seems to me to be the classic Carpenter. Take a look at the two on p. 163. A classic Carpenter is Frank Carpenter, whose fine photo can be found at www.geocities.com/fbc.htm. A much more interesting question would have been, "Were the Carpenter ladies well built"? For the record, the reason I don't accept a DeMelun origin for the Herefordshire Carpenters is not that I dislike the DeMeluns, but rather the evidence that supports the connection is a sham. It is the nature of my profession to assign an "F" for lousy homework and an "A" for well done homework. Simple as that. Sincerely, Bruce Carpenter Sincerely, Bruce Carpenter