LDS shows a record with no sources for a marriage: Abt 1760 : Susan JORDAN m. James CARPENTER of Dumfries, Moffat, Scotland Lincoln Co GA Does anyone have any info on this couple? Thanks for any help, Donna

Hi John, I also think this is my line of Carpenters. I believe that my great grandfather John W. Carpenter b1866-1867 IN. The son of William A. b1846 IN. William's father being Rufus. I found William A. Carpenter with wife Melvina on the 1880 Ottumwa, Wapello, Iowa census with children John W. b 1867 IN, Nora (Nona) b 1869 Iowa and David b1873. In 1900 John W. was married to Ida (Addie) and living with their children in Neosho CO. Erie, KA., where all four of their children were born. I would very much like to find someone related to my line. My mother and her siblings have never met any of the Carpenters other than my grandmother's sister Vera. To reiterate my grandmother and her siblings were separated after their mother's death between 1815-1820. Vera and my grandmother found each other in the mid 60s, I only met Vera once when I was real young and can't remember to much about her. I don't think they ever found their other two siblings. ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour

I searching for anyone that may be related, or have knowledge of the following people. William A Carpenter b 1846 IN. m ? They had at least two children John and David or Davis Carpenter. John W. Carpenter, b 1866 or 1867 IN. m Ida Agnes Ayres Dec. 19. 1897 Neosho CO. KA. Children born to them are: Vera A. Carpenter b 1898 Neosho Co.KA m George D. Roles Charles L. Carpenter b 1901 Neosho CO. KA. m Eugina ? Pearl M. Carpenter b April 30 1903 Erie, KA. m Albert G. Buchanan Mabel Carpenter b 1906 Neosho CO. KA. m Elmer Pittser These children were separated after their mother Ida died between 1915-1920. Pearl my grandmother, and Vera found each other sometime in the early 1960s, while living in CA. To my knowledge they were never reunited with their other siblings. My family lost contact with Vera after my grandmother passed away. I was to small to remember anything else about my family, other than what my grandmother told me about her father being hit by a train. I do not know where or when this accident happened. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Patty ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour

Patty, There is a lot of similarity in this family to yours. Check out the names. Please note: William A. Carpenter-95553 was born in 1845 in Marion, Jennings, IN. You may want to contact the senders of the emails in the notes field. John R. Carpenter La Mesa, CA Descendant Report for Rufus Carpenter-95293 First Generation 1. Rufus Carpenter-95293 was born about 1816 in , , NY. He died in of, Liberty, Dickinson, KS. CENSUS: 1880 United States Census Household: Name Relation Marital Status Gender Race Age Birthplace Occupation Father's Birthplace Mother's Birthplace Rufus CARPENTER Self M Male W 64 NY Farmer NY NY Frances CARPENTER Wife M Female W 60 IN Keeping House MA VT David B. CARPENTER Son S Male W 25 IN Working On Farm NY IN Rufus A. CARPENTER Son S Male W 23 IN Working On Farm NY IN Hiram L. CARPENTER Son S Male W 20 IN Working On Farm NY IN Winfield CARPENTER Son S Male W 19 IN NY IN -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Source Information: Census Place Liberty, Dickinson, Kansas Family History Library Film 1254379 NA Film Number T9-0379 Page Number 451D E-MAIL: From: Frances M. Angst-Robertson <franangst@sbcglobal.net> To: jcarpenter@planetc.com ; johnrcarpenter@cox.net ; john.chandler@alum.mit.edu ; diluvius@yahoo. com.com Sent: Saturday, April 16, 2005 10:12 AM Subject: Hello I can't afford the DNA testing and from what I've seen on the page it's mostly for male testing and not us females. I hope you can help me. I've traced many of my ;ines going bacl to the 1400's and 1600's but no luck with the Carpenter's in my line.Thank you for any help you can give me. I am related to RUFUS B. CARPENTER who was born 1816 in New York. I'd like to find out where his parents came from. My Mom thinks they came from France but Ive been told by others that they could be German, Swiss, or English.. He later moved to Indiana where he married FRANCES WADELL/ TWADELL (I've seen it spelled both ways, the latter is on the marriage records. Sep 24, 1839 in Jennings County, Indiana. I last found them in Dickinson County Kansas. One of the family stories is one of the older boys died fighting in the Civil War. My Mom told me she has the gun that the Army sent back to the family along with his clothes. The family had to burn the clothes and passed the gun down. I have no idea what happened to the 2 girls. I don't know if they died young or married and moved somewhere else, or what. My great grand parents and their two children ended up in Colorado. Two of his brothers went to Washington state and another brother either stayed in Kansas or went some place else. It seems after the family ended up in Denver they lost touch with some of the others in the family. Children of RUFUS CARPENTER and FRANCES WADELL/TWADELL are: i.JOHN W. CARPENTER, b. 1843, Marion, Jennings, Indiana. Found out he is the one that died in the Civil War. ii.WILLIAM A. CARPENTER, b. 1845, Marion, Jennings, Indiana. iii.MARTHA A. CARPENTER, b. 1848, Marion, Jennings, Indiana. iv.FRANCES CARPENTER, b. 1854, Marion, Jennings, Indiana. ***3.v.DAVID BYRON CARPENTER, b. May 4, 1855, Marion, Jennings, Indiana; d. Jun 25, 1929, Denver, Denver, Colorado. (my line) vi.RUFUS A. CARPENTER, b. 1857, Marion, Jennings, Indiana. vii.HIRAM CARPENTER, b. 1860, Marion, Jennings, Indiana; d. May 15, 1932, Everett, Clallam, Washington. viii.WINFIELD SCOTT CARPENTER, b. 1861, Marion, Jennings, Indiana; d. Dec 10, 1925, Skagit County, Washington. MORE: Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2006 04:16:26 -0800 (PST) From: "Frances M. Angst-Robertson" <franangst@sbcglobal.net> Subject: [CARPENTER] Carpenter, Rufus To: CARPENTER@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <20061128121626.47238.qmail@web81012.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 I'm looking for NY information on my GG Grandfather Carpenter, Rufus B. Thnk you for any help you can give me. I first found him in Jennings County IN where he moved to and married Frances Twdell. Last known place for them was KS when they got a Civil War pension for their son John that died in the war. Here is some info: Individual: Carpenter, Rufus B. Year: 1850 State: IN County: Jennings Location: Marion Township National Archives Series Number: M432 National Archives Microfilm Number: 155 Census Page Number: 410 Census Records: Indiana, 1850, Individual: Carpenter, Rufus P. Age: 44 Year(s) Ethnicity: White Birthplace: New York County: Jennings Township: Marion Post Office: Cana State: IN Census Page Number: 0369 Census Line Number: 26A National Archives Series Number: M653 National Archives Microfilm Number: 271 Job: Blacksmith Job Code: 270 - Blacksmith Real Property: $1500 Personal Property: $300 Head of Household: Y Literate: Yes Family Number: 1362 Dwelling Number: 1362 Father: CARPENTER b: ABT 1771 in New York Marriage 1 Frances TWADLE b: ABT 1820 in Indiana Married: 24 SEP 1839 in Jennings County, Indiana Marriage fact: 24 SEP 1839 in Marriage Index Indiana Children John W. CARPENTER b: 1843 in Jennings County, Indiana (died Civil War) William A. CARPENTER b: APR 1848 in Indiana (married had kids) Martha Jane CARPENTER b: 1848 in Jennings County, Indiana (Married? don't know if info is right) Frances CARPENTER b: 1854 in Jennings County, Indiana (?om marriage and death) David Byron CARPENTER b: 4 MAY 1855 in Jennings County, Indiana (MY LINE) Rufus CARPENTER b: 1857 in Jennings County, Indiana (? on marriage and death KS last place found) Hiram L. CARPENTER b: 1860 in Jennings County, Indiana (Died in WA was married) Winfield Scott CARPENTER b: 14 MAY 1861 in Jennings, County, Indiana (died WA never married as far as I know) Rufus married (MRIN:33640) Frances Waddell-95294 on 24 Sep 1839 in , Jennings, IN. Frances was born about 1820 in , , IN. They had the following children: 2 M i. John W. Carpenter-95552 was born in 1843 in Marion, Jennings, IN. He died about 1861/1865 in Killed in Action, K.I.A., During, Civil War. 3 M ii. William A. Carpenter-95553 was born in 1845 in Marion, Jennings, IN. 4 F iii. Martha A. Carpenter-95554 was born in 1848 in Marion, Jennings, IN. 5 F iv. Frances Carpenter-95555 was born in 1854 in Marion, Jennings, IN. 6 M v. David B. Carpenter-95295 was born on 4 May 1855 in Marion, Jennings, IN. He died on 25 Jun 1929 in Denver, Denver, CO. 7 M vi. Rufus A. Carpenter-95296 was born in 1857 in Marion, Jennings, IN. 8 M vii. Hiram L. Carpenter-95297 was born in 1860 in Marion, Jennings, IN. He died on 15 May 1932 in Everett, Clallam, WA. 9 M viii. Winfield Scott Carpenter-95298 was born in 1861 in Marion, Jennings, IN. He died on 10 Dec 1925 in , Skagit, WA. ----- Original Message ----- From: <Sparrow2pb@aol.com> To: <carpenter@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, September 02, 2007 5:37 PM Subject: [CARPENTER] IN. and KA. Carpenters >I searching for anyone that may be related, or have knowledge of the > following people. > > William A Carpenter b 1846 IN. > m ? > They had at least two children John and David or Davis Carpenter. > > John W. Carpenter, b 1866 or 1867 IN. > m Ida Agnes Ayres Dec. 19. 1897 Neosho CO. KA. > > Children born to them are: Vera A. Carpenter b 1898 Neosho Co.KA > m George > D. Roles > > Charles L. Carpenter b 1901 > Neosho > CO. KA. > m > Eugina ? > > Pearl M. Carpenter b April 30 1903 > Erie, KA. > m > Albert > G. Buchanan > > Mabel Carpenter b 1906 Neosho CO. > KA. > m Elmer > Pittser > > These children were separated after their mother Ida died between > 1915-1920. > Pearl my grandmother, and Vera found each other sometime in the early > 1960s, > while living in CA. To my knowledge they were never reunited with their > other siblings. My family lost contact with Vera after my grandmother > passed > away. I was to small to remember anything else about my family, other > than what > my grandmother told me about her father being hit by a train. I do not > know > where or when this accident happened. Any help would be greatly > appreciated. > > Patty > > > > > > > > > ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL > at > http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > CARPENTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

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The NC Archives show records of a Thomas Carpenter of Edgecombe County: Carpenter, Thomas. Edgecombe Co. 1762/1763 Moccasin Creek 700 acres / 412 acres Title: Carpenter, Thomas. Edgecombe Co. Creator: Secretary of State, Office of Granville Proprietary Land Office Secretary, Office of the Call Number: S.108.270--S.108.283 Location: MFR MARS Id: 12.12.14.7 (Folder) Genres / Forms: Warrants, Plats, Deeds Scope / Contents: Warrant: 1762 January 2. 700 acres. Descriptive references for land: Moccasin Creek. Plat: 1762 July 2. 412 acres. Descriptive references for land: Moccasin Creek. Chain carriers: George Bryant, Thomas Ray. Surveyor: William Haywood. Deed: 1763 June 1. Index Terms: Geographic Names: Edgecombe County Moccasin Creek Personal Names: Carpenter, Thomas Bryant, George Ray, Thomas Haywood, William Thomas Carpenter : NC AM REV Pvt Hall's joined 1781 12 mo. Left service 12 Apr. 1782 Nash County borders Edgecombe County so maybe this is the Nash County Carpenters? LOOKING FOR DOCUMENTATION: Does anyone have copy of this will? If so, does it list his kids? Is there any "proof" of this Thomas's parents? I have seen numerous online trees including the Thomas of Botetart which some indicate he may have been this Thomas. Thanks, Donna Cuzze

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Thank you for all your hard work John. -- "John R Carpenter \(JRC\)" <jrcrin001@cox.net> wrote: Anita, This is all that I have. John R. Carpenter La Mesa, CA !BOOKLET: See REF: B.B. TOPP, Carpenter Chronicles #24, Nov 1995 Contents of pages 298-300 of Emigration List, BEVIS 1638 "Portus Southon: Southon, (May 1638) The list of the names of passengers intended to shipe themselves, in the Bevis of Hampton of CL tommes, Robert Batten, Master, for New England; thus by vertue of the Lord Tresurers Warrant of the second of May, which was after the restrayne(t) & they some dayes gone to sea before the King's Mates. Proclamacon come unto Southton." (lists of names) age name 62 William Carpenter 33 William Carpenter Jun (of Horwell) 32 Abigail Carpenter 10 & under four children. servant. (NOTE: Southon = Southampton). (NOTE: Horwell = Wherwell???). ----- Original Message ----- From: <w.e.siewert@juno.com> To: <carpenter@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2007 6:46 PM Subject: Re: [CARPENTER] William2's Handwriting - on line > Thank you John. I'm really happy to be able to see it. Would you please > send me your transcription of it as well? Thank you so much. Anita ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CARPENTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _____________________________________________________________ Click to publish your book fast with high quality presses. http://3rdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2111/fc/Ioyw6iieU4sXsEsZdCYbb6HmikE6jdSzSkya0ecOpYMmeAQXilyJ5K/

Gene, Here is the link for everyone to see: http://members.cox.net/johnrcarpenter/BevisList.pdf Thanks for sharing this! John R. Carpenter La Mesa,CA ----- Original Message ----- From: GeneZub@aol.com To: johnrcarpenter@cox.net Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2007 3:55 PM Subject: _Bevis_ Passenger List Transcription (for Posting) John, Attached are images of the best transcription of the entire _Bevis_ passenger list that I'm aware of (Samuel G. Drake, "The Founders of New England," _The New England Historical and Genealogical Register_ 14[1860]:336-37). Why they differ as to margins, I have no idea. In any case, perhaps you'd like to post them online and announce it on the list. Gene

The best and most easily available transcription of the _Bevis_ passenger list is the oldest (see Samuel G. Drake, "The Founders of New England," _The New England Historical and Genealogical Register_ 14[1860]:336-37): "SOUTHAMPTON.--The list of the names of Passeng[er]s Intended to shipe themselues, In the Beuis of Hampton of CL.Tounes, Robert Batten M[aste]r for Newengland, And thus by vertue of the Lord Treasurers warrant of the second of May w[hi]ch was after the restraynt and they some Dayes gone to sea Before the Kinges Ma[gis]t[rat]es Proclamacon Came vnto South'ton." [Because the abbreviated words end with one or two letters in superscript (which cannot be duplicated on the mailing list)--and, in at least one case, for clarity--I have inserted the missing letters in brackets. Drake puts the appropriate letters in superscript but does not supply the missing letters.] I'll send the images (two pages) to John R. for posting online. As is clear from the partial image of the original record posted by John R., the Carpenter section of the passenger list reads as follows: 62 - - - - William Carpenter 33 - - - - William Carpent Jn [following a bracket of the two Williams is "of Horwell Carpent[e]rs"] 32 - - - - Abigael Carpenter 10 & vnder & fower children 14 - - - - Tho: Banshott Servt. As the list's preamble indicates, by 2 May 1638, "they had some Dayes gone to sea." The actual departure date is not known, nor is the date of arrival. Since the average voyage from England to Massachusetts took five to eight weeks, they would have landed, probably at Boston (the point of all but a handful of Bay Colony arrivals), in June or July 1638. It is reasonably certain that "Horwell" refers to the parish of Whorwell (now Wherwell), located in Horwell Hundred, Hampshire (see <http://www.geog.port.ac.uk/webmap/hantsmap/hantsmap/speed1/sp1su44f.htm> and <http://www.geog.port.ac.uk/webmap/hantsmap/hantsmap/speed1/spd1gaz.htm>). Whorwell/Wherwell (about 15 map miles south-southeast of Shalbourne) had a tradition of religious dissent: at least two of its vicars, Stephen Bachiler (1587–1605) and probable brother-in-law John Bate (1605–1633), were nonconformists. It lies, moreover, on a straight line from Shalbourne to the _Bevis_’s port of departure, at Southampton. The Carpenters remained at Wherwell no more than a few months and perhaps only a day or two. Their tenancy at Shalbourne had ended by September 1637, but the burial there the following January of an Alice Carpenter raises the possibility that the surviving Carpenters were then still living in or very near Shalbourne. It is possible that they paused at Wherwell only long enough to obtain from sympathetic authorities the _certificates of conformity_ (one for each man) that customs officials would require for the Carpenters to leave England and from which the residence recorded for them on the passenger list was probably copied (see "Focus on the _Planter_," _Great Migration Newsletter_ 15, no. 4, online at <www.greatmigration.org> [subscription website; printed issues available]). Gene Z. ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour

Anita, This is all that I have. John R. Carpenter La Mesa, CA !BOOKLET: See REF: B.B. TOPP, Carpenter Chronicles #24, Nov 1995 Contents of pages 298-300 of Emigration List, BEVIS 1638 "Portus Southon: Southon, (May 1638) The list of the names of passengers intended to shipe themselves, in the Bevis of Hampton of CL tommes, Robert Batten, Master, for New England; thus by vertue of the Lord Tresurers Warrant of the second of May, which was after the restrayne(t) & they some dayes gone to sea before the King's Mates. Proclamacon come unto Southton." (lists of names) age name 62 William Carpenter 33 William Carpenter Jun (of Horwell) 32 Abigail Carpenter 10 & under four children. servant. (NOTE: Southon = Southampton). (NOTE: Horwell = Wherwell???). ----- Original Message ----- From: <w.e.siewert@juno.com> To: <carpenter@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2007 6:46 PM Subject: Re: [CARPENTER] William2's Handwriting - on line > Thank you John. I'm really happy to be able to see it. Would you please > send me your transcription of it as well? Thank you so much. Anita

The following appears to be a good place to reference old English handwriting http://www.english.cam.ac.uk/ceres/ehoc/ Bruce

Thank you John. I'm really happy to be able to see it. Would you please send me your transcription of it as well? Thank you so much. Anita -- "John R Carpenter \(JRC\)" <jrcrin001@cox.net> wrote: Gene & Anita, Sorry for the delay. Here is the location of the William2 document. http://members.cox.net/johnrcarpenter/Deed%20in%20hand%20of%20William%20Carpenter2%20of%20Rehoboth.jpg John R. Carpenter La Mesa, CA ----- Original Message ----- From: <GeneZub@aol.com> To: <carpenter@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, August 26, 2007 12:47 AM Subject: [CARPENTER] William2's Handwriting > > Anita wrote: > > << Is there a way to post this document so that others can view it. I > think > it would be interesting. Anita >> > > I'm working on it. > > Gene ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CARPENTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ________________________________________________________________________ Surprise your friends with a FREE Juno Video Mail! Sign up today. http://track.juno.com/s/lc?u=http://ads.addynamix.com/click/2-2130421-177

At 11:27 AM 8/29/2007 -0700, you wrote: >BOOKLET: See REF: B.B. TOPP, Carpenter Chronicles #24, Nov 1995 >Contents of pages 298-300 of Emigration List, BEVIS 1638 "Portus Southon: >Southon, (May 1638) >The list of the names of passengers intended to shipe themselves, in the >Bevis of Hampton of CL tommes, Robert Batten, Master, for New England; thus >by vertue of the Lord Tresurers Warrant of the second of May, which was >after the restrayne(t) & they some dayes gone to sea before the King's >Mates. >Proclamacon come unto Southton." >(lists of names) ... >age name >62 William Carpenter >33 William Carpenter Jun (of Horwell) >32 Abigail Carpenter >10 & under four children. > servant. > >(NOTE: Southon = Southampton). >(NOTE: Horwell = Wherwell???). Two Bevis questions: 1. Isn't it likely the "CL tommes" transcribed above ought to be "CL tonnes," which is to say, 150 tons (weight of ship)? 2. Does anyone know the Bevis dates of actual departure and arrival? the above reference to May 2 seems to be date of a Warrant (permission to sail?), not a date of departure. Robin

Hey John, Thank you so much. Maybe I was sleeping during this discussion, but is there any location where this has been transcribed? Phoebe in CA ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour

Bruce - I appreciate the link and it will be such a help to all of us. Thanks for sharing it with us. Bette ----- Original Message ----- From: "John R Carpenter (JRC)" <jrcrin001@cox.net> To: <carpenter@rootsweb.com>; <Carpenter-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2007 11:32 AM Subject: Re: [CARPENTER] handwriting - English Handwriting 1500-1700 > Thank You Bruce E. for the good link! > > The course lessons on English Handwriting 1500-1700 will come in handy for > those seeing olde English wills, deeds and such. > > John R. Carpenter > La Mesa, CA > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Bruce E. Carpenter" <carp@tezukayama-u.ac.jp> > To: <Carpenter-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2007 10:08 AM > Subject: [CARPENTER] handwriting > > >> The following appears to be a good place to reference old English >> handwriting http://www.english.cam.ac.uk/ceres/ehoc/ >> >> Bruce > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > CARPENTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.484 / Virus Database: 269.12.10/977 - Release Date: 8/28/2007 > 4:29 PM > >

Thank You Bruce E. for the good link! The course lessons on English Handwriting 1500-1700 will come in handy for those seeing olde English wills, deeds and such. John R. Carpenter La Mesa, CA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bruce E. Carpenter" <carp@tezukayama-u.ac.jp> To: <Carpenter-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2007 10:08 AM Subject: [CARPENTER] handwriting > The following appears to be a good place to reference old English > handwriting http://www.english.cam.ac.uk/ceres/ehoc/ > > Bruce

Phoebe, Below is what I have from the CE CD 2001. It is a partial translation. I hope this helps. John R. Carpenter La Mesa, CA BOOKLET: See REF: B.B. TOPP, Carpenter Chronicles #24, Nov 1995 Contents of pages 298-300 of Emigration List, BEVIS 1638 "Portus Southon: Southon, (May 1638) The list of the names of passengers intended to shipe themselves, in the Bevis of Hampton of CL tommes, Robert Batten, Master, for New England; thus by vertue of the Lord Tresurers Warrant of the second of May, which was after the restrayne(t) & they some dayes gone to sea before the King's Mates. Proclamacon come unto Southton." (lists of names) ... age name 62 William Carpenter 33 William Carpenter Jun (of Horwell) 32 Abigail Carpenter 10 & under four children. servant. (NOTE: Southon = Southampton). (NOTE: Horwell = Wherwell???). ----- Original Message ----- From: <Mzzcortezz@aol.com> To: <carpenter@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2007 10:31 AM Subject: Re: [CARPENTER] William2's Handwriting - on line > Hey John, > Thank you so much. Maybe I was sleeping during this discussion, but is > there any location where this has been transcribed? Phoebe in CA

Hello, Terry Lee Carpenter suggested, and I agree, that a copy of the Bevis passenger list that was in the CE CD 2001 (under Misc Pics) would be good to post for the Carpenter Roots web researchers. See: http://members.cox.net/johnrcarpenter/BevisPaxList_BW1.jpg John R. Carpenter La Mesa, CA Carpenter Cousins Y-DNA Project http://members.cox.net/johnrcarpenter/index.htm Donations to the Carpenter Cousins Y-DNA Project can be made at: http://www.familytreedna.com/contribution.html Carpenter CD Project Update http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/c/a/r/John-R-Carpenter/index.html

Gene & Anita, Sorry for the delay. Here is the location of the William2 document. http://members.cox.net/johnrcarpenter/Deed%20in%20hand%20of%20William%20Carpenter2%20of%20Rehoboth.jpg John R. Carpenter La Mesa, CA ----- Original Message ----- From: <GeneZub@aol.com> To: <carpenter@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, August 26, 2007 12:47 AM Subject: [CARPENTER] William2's Handwriting > > Anita wrote: > > << Is there a way to post this document so that others can view it. I > think > it would be interesting. Anita >> > > I'm working on it. > > Gene