again I acted to quick,The last page gives in short form the full enlistment of Benjamin and all the battles and places he served, This is found at Heritage Quest,under revolution Search ----- Original Message ----- From: <Mzzcortezz@aol.com> To: <CARPENTER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, December 07, 2007 12:58 PM Subject: [CARPENTER] Rev. War: Orange Co. NY land bounty: Carpenters > >>From "THE MILITIA (LAND BOUNTY RIGHTS) - ORANGE COUNTY, > > FIRST REGIMENT > Major Zachariah Du Bois > Enlisted men: > (includes) > Colvil and Elijah CARPENTER > > > 3rd regiment > > CARPENTER: Anthony, Benjamin, Carmen, Daniel, Isaac, James, Jesse, > Michael > > > This is Rev. War - Orange Co., NY > > from Phoebe in CA > > > > > **************************************Check out AOL's list of 2007's > hottest > products. > (http://money.aol.com/special/hot-products-2007?NCID=aoltop00030000000001) > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > CARPENTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

After reading further,I see that Benjamin and wife Margaret Decker were married April 9th 1787, so if we look to see a Benjamin who married margaret Decker we can find his father,he had a son Benjamin also who is part of this pension app. It also has a letter from the Reformed Dutch Church of Orange Co New York, this was 1839 when the letter was written by Pastor Cornelious C Etting----- Original Message ----- From: <Mzzcortezz@aol.com> To: <CARPENTER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, December 07, 2007 12:58 PM Subject: [CARPENTER] Rev. War: Orange Co. NY land bounty: Carpenters > >>From "THE MILITIA (LAND BOUNTY RIGHTS) - ORANGE COUNTY, > > FIRST REGIMENT > Major Zachariah Du Bois > Enlisted men: > (includes) > Colvil and Elijah CARPENTER > > > 3rd regiment > > CARPENTER: Anthony, Benjamin, Carmen, Daniel, Isaac, James, Jesse, > Michael > > > This is Rev. War - Orange Co., NY > > from Phoebe in CA > > > > > **************************************Check out AOL's list of 2007's > hottest > products. > (http://money.aol.com/special/hot-products-2007?NCID=aoltop00030000000001) > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > CARPENTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Folks,I found Benjamins Pension application which was filed by his wife Margaret, This is Orange County, But the Major and his Col were different names??He was under Capt Thompson, and regiment ran by William Allison , and a Col Benjamin Tusten and a Maj John Decker, It tells of His escape from a capture where he escaped from the back of the fort and made his was through a deep ravine ,trying to get back to Montgomery. all I can say is WOW, There are 9 pages most of tells about his enlistment,and many different battles.Very cool History, I would love to get it transcribed and read it ,It is hard to read as is.But you can get quite a bit out of it . Does anyone know,what line of Carpenters this is, Is It the Rehoboth Carpenters??. Any Ideas? Jerry ----- Original Message ----- From: <Mzzcortezz@aol.com> To: <CARPENTER-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, December 07, 2007 12:58 PM Subject: [CARPENTER] Rev. War: Orange Co. NY land bounty: Carpenters > >>From "THE MILITIA (LAND BOUNTY RIGHTS) - ORANGE COUNTY, > > FIRST REGIMENT > Major Zachariah Du Bois > Enlisted men: > (includes) > Colvil and Elijah CARPENTER > > > 3rd regiment > > CARPENTER: Anthony, Benjamin, Carmen, Daniel, Isaac, James, Jesse, > Michael > > > This is Rev. War - Orange Co., NY > > from Phoebe in CA > > > > > **************************************Check out AOL's list of 2007's > hottest > products. > (http://money.aol.com/special/hot-products-2007?NCID=aoltop00030000000001) > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > CARPENTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Are there any Haviland/Heaviland, or Currant/Currents in that land bounty book? thanks Marilyn Heavilin Current **************************************Check out AOL's list of 2007's hottest products. (http://money.aol.com/special/hot-products-2007?NCID=aoltop00030000000001)

The last I heard the Carpenter Museum was storing Carpenter data and not wanting any more. There was some talk about sending it to the SAR Library in Louisville KY which does have an extensive amount of Carpenter genealogy material and is very accommodating to researchers. This would be a reasonable place to send that Bible. I hope that we aren't bidding against each other. -----Original Message----- From: carpenter-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:carpenter-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of John Carpenter Sent: Friday, December 07, 2007 6:59 AM To: carpenter@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [CARPENTER] Carpenter bible I put in a bid for the Bible on eBay, and was immediately outbid. There appears to be some interest out there. Here's the link to the eBay listing: http://cgi.ebay.com/1832-Family-Bible-of-Hope-Phebe-Carpenter-MI-NJ-etc_W0QQ itemZ130179467346QQcategoryZ20926QQcmdZViewItemQQisPrinterFriendlyZ1QQpvZ2 It expires on Sunday, December 9th. I would suggest that this Bible deserves a place in a museum or other accessible institution that will care for it. I recommend the Carpenter Museum in Rehoboth, MA. They get a lot of Carpenter genealogy seekers, so it would be a useful resource there. It's on the Web, or I can post contact info. Best, John E. Carpenter -----Original Message----- From: carpenter-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:carpenter-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of John R. Carpenter Sent: Friday, December 07, 2007 2:41 AM To: carpenter@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [CARPENTER] Carpenter bible Tim, Most of this line daughtered out. HOWEVER ... I was in contact with a Wayne Sidney Carpenter a few years ago who is a descendant. I have emailed him - I hope the e-address is still good. Thanks for sharing! John R. Carpenter La Mesa, CA Carpenter Cousins Y-DNA Project http://members.cox.net/johnrcarpenter/index.htm Hope Carpenter-20170 was born on 16 Mar 1757 in Hopewell, Hunterdon, NJ. He died on 4 May 1840 in Starkey, Yates, NY and was buried in Feb 1775 in Dundee, Hillside Cem., Section 2, , Yates, NY. Hope married (MRIN:8364) Phebe Yost-41473, daughter of Jacob Yost-41474 and Mary-41475 (MRIN:16118), on 24 Feb 1788 in Elizabeth Twp., Essex, NJ. Phebe was born on 8 May 1773 in Newtown, Sussex, NJ. She died on 25 Nov 1854 in Starkey, Yates, NY and was buried in Dundee, Hillside Cem., Section 2, , Yates, NY. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tim Stowell" <tstowell@chattanooga.net> To: <carpenter@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2007 5:41 PM Subject: [CARPENTER] Carpenter bible >I ran across this Carpenter bible on Ebay. I suppose if it is one of > your family it may be worth it. > > The blurb about it says in part - > > an 1832 copy of THE HOLY BIBLE,containing; the OLD AND NEW TESTAMENTS > together with THE APOCRYPHA,as published by H.& E.Phinney of > Cooperstown,NY. Cover is in very poor condition(back has come > unattached),and first few pages are torn. However,what caught my > attention was the fact that this bible must of belonged to a family > named "CARPENTER",as the pages for adding family information such as > births,deaths,marriages have been filled in with names such as; Hope > Carpenter,Benjamin Carpenter,Phebe Yost,Daniel Dewitt > Carpenter,Garner Carpenter, and others. Also found,stuffed within the > pages of the bible were; loose handwritten pages containing names & > dates of Carpenter marriages & deaths,and a copy of an obituary for > Daniel Dewitt Carpenter of Adrian Michigan. > > > Just thought someone would find it of interest. My apologies if this > is not listworthy. > > Tim Stowell ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CARPENTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CARPENTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello Carpenter list, Susan Austin, another descendant of this pacticular Carpenter line, is also bidding on the bible. Please don't send the price up. She is happy to share the info and to take care of the Family Bible. Many Thanks to all of you who are so concerned about this Family relic. Many great ideas were forwarded. Merry Christmas! John R. Carpenter La Mesa, CA Here's the link to the eBay listing: http://cgi.ebay.com/1832-Family-Bible-of-Hope-Phebe-Carpenter-MI-NJ-etc_W0QQitemZ130179467346QQcategoryZ20926QQcmdZViewItemQQisPrinterFriendlyZ1QQpvZ2 It expires on Sunday, December 9th. ----- Original Message ----- From: Susan Austin To: John R. Carpenter Sent: Friday, December 07, 2007 11:14 AM Subject: RE: [CARPENTER] Carpenter bible on your line - FYI Thanks very much for the tip. I am putting a big bid on it and hope to get it. Will send you all the info if I do! Susan susanaustin@hotmail.com > From: jrcrin001@cox.net > To: susanaustin@hotmail.com > Subject: Fw: [CARPENTER] Carpenter bible on your line - FYI > Date: Thu, 6 Dec 2007 23:41:39 -0800 > > FYI > > JRC > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "John R. Carpenter" <jrcrin001@cox.net> > To: <wcarpent@dmci.net> > Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2007 11:34 PM > Subject: Fw: [CARPENTER] Carpenter bible on your line > > > > Wayne, > > > > An old family bible (1832) that contains names of your family has been > > found. > > > > See info below. > > > > John R. Carpenter > > La Mesa, CA > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Dennis L. Carpenter" <dcarpenter@clearwire.net> > > To: <carpenter@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2007 7:33 PM > > Subject: Re: [CARPENTER] Carpenter bible > > > > > >> Tim, I'm sure there will be someone from that line who would be > >> interested ...

Why don't we all throw in a ten spot and get it, copy the data, and donate it to the Museum? Phoebe in CA **************************************Check out AOL's list of 2007's hottest products. (http://money.aol.com/special/hot-products-2007?NCID=aoltop00030000000001)

>From "THE MILITIA (LAND BOUNTY RIGHTS) - ORANGE COUNTY, FIRST REGIMENT Major Zachariah Du Bois Enlisted men: (includes) Colvil and Elijah CARPENTER 3rd regiment CARPENTER: Anthony, Benjamin, Carmen, Daniel, Isaac, James, Jesse, Michael This is Rev. War - Orange Co., NY from Phoebe in CA **************************************Check out AOL's list of 2007's hottest products. (http://money.aol.com/special/hot-products-2007?NCID=aoltop00030000000001)

I put in a bid for the Bible on eBay, and was immediately outbid. There appears to be some interest out there. Here's the link to the eBay listing: http://cgi.ebay.com/1832-Family-Bible-of-Hope-Phebe-Carpenter-MI-NJ-etc_W0QQ itemZ130179467346QQcategoryZ20926QQcmdZViewItemQQisPrinterFriendlyZ1QQpvZ2 It expires on Sunday, December 9th. I would suggest that this Bible deserves a place in a museum or other accessible institution that will care for it. I recommend the Carpenter Museum in Rehoboth, MA. They get a lot of Carpenter genealogy seekers, so it would be a useful resource there. It's on the Web, or I can post contact info. Best, John E. Carpenter -----Original Message----- From: carpenter-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:carpenter-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of John R. Carpenter Sent: Friday, December 07, 2007 2:41 AM To: carpenter@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [CARPENTER] Carpenter bible Tim, Most of this line daughtered out. HOWEVER ... I was in contact with a Wayne Sidney Carpenter a few years ago who is a descendant. I have emailed him - I hope the e-address is still good. Thanks for sharing! John R. Carpenter La Mesa, CA Carpenter Cousins Y-DNA Project http://members.cox.net/johnrcarpenter/index.htm Hope Carpenter-20170 was born on 16 Mar 1757 in Hopewell, Hunterdon, NJ. He died on 4 May 1840 in Starkey, Yates, NY and was buried in Feb 1775 in Dundee, Hillside Cem., Section 2, , Yates, NY. Hope married (MRIN:8364) Phebe Yost-41473, daughter of Jacob Yost-41474 and Mary-41475 (MRIN:16118), on 24 Feb 1788 in Elizabeth Twp., Essex, NJ. Phebe was born on 8 May 1773 in Newtown, Sussex, NJ. She died on 25 Nov 1854 in Starkey, Yates, NY and was buried in Dundee, Hillside Cem., Section 2, , Yates, NY. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tim Stowell" <tstowell@chattanooga.net> To: <carpenter@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2007 5:41 PM Subject: [CARPENTER] Carpenter bible >I ran across this Carpenter bible on Ebay. I suppose if it is one of > your family it may be worth it. > > The blurb about it says in part - > > an 1832 copy of THE HOLY BIBLE,containing; the OLD AND NEW TESTAMENTS > together with THE APOCRYPHA,as published by H.& E.Phinney of > Cooperstown,NY. Cover is in very poor condition(back has come > unattached),and first few pages are torn. However,what caught my > attention was the fact that this bible must of belonged to a family > named "CARPENTER",as the pages for adding family information such as > births,deaths,marriages have been filled in with names such as; Hope > Carpenter,Benjamin Carpenter,Phebe Yost,Daniel Dewitt > Carpenter,Garner Carpenter, and others. Also found,stuffed within the > pages of the bible were; loose handwritten pages containing names & > dates of Carpenter marriages & deaths,and a copy of an obituary for > Daniel Dewitt Carpenter of Adrian Michigan. > > > Just thought someone would find it of interest. My apologies if this > is not listworthy. > > Tim Stowell ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CARPENTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

This is good information. Thanks. One thing to watch for in the U.S. records, is that Loyalists were disowned, and even their departures for Canada were not recorded. The division of families was as traumatic and vicious as it was in the Civil War, 90 years later. I believe my Carpenter roots went from Rehoboth to Hempstead, LI, to NJ, and thence to Canada. Still trying to string together all the beads, but I have both ends of the string. I have a hunch the records might be somewhere in the Canadian Maritimes - the Brits took what records they had when they evacuated New York City. From New Brunswick and Nova Scotia, many of the Loyalists petitioned for more tillable land in Upper Canada, now Ontario, and settled south of Toronto (including my immediate Carpenter ancestors). My point is, that some of pre-Revolution family lines that seem to "daughter out" or just disappear, may be found again in Canada and worked backward from there. Just a suggestion - Best regards, John Edward Carpenter, Reading Massachusetts (Grandson of John Brock Carpenter of Woodhouse Township, Norfolk County, ON - Just by the name, it's clear they were UEL. Someday I have to visit!) -----Original Message----- From: carpenter-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:carpenter-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of John R. Carpenter Sent: Friday, December 07, 2007 2:41 AM To: carpenter@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [CARPENTER] Carpenter bible Tim, Most of this line daughtered out. HOWEVER ... I was in contact with a Wayne Sidney Carpenter a few years ago who is a descendant. I have emailed him - I hope the e-address is still good. Thanks for sharing! John R. Carpenter La Mesa, CA Carpenter Cousins Y-DNA Project http://members.cox.net/johnrcarpenter/index.htm Hope Carpenter-20170 was born on 16 Mar 1757 in Hopewell, Hunterdon, NJ. He died on 4 May 1840 in Starkey, Yates, NY and was buried in Feb 1775 in Dundee, Hillside Cem., Section 2, , Yates, NY. Hope married (MRIN:8364) Phebe Yost-41473, daughter of Jacob Yost-41474 and Mary-41475 (MRIN:16118), on 24 Feb 1788 in Elizabeth Twp., Essex, NJ. Phebe was born on 8 May 1773 in Newtown, Sussex, NJ. She died on 25 Nov 1854 in Starkey, Yates, NY and was buried in Dundee, Hillside Cem., Section 2, , Yates, NY. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tim Stowell" <tstowell@chattanooga.net> To: <carpenter@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2007 5:41 PM Subject: [CARPENTER] Carpenter bible >I ran across this Carpenter bible on Ebay. I suppose if it is one of > your family it may be worth it. > > The blurb about it says in part - > > an 1832 copy of THE HOLY BIBLE,containing; the OLD AND NEW TESTAMENTS > together with THE APOCRYPHA,as published by H.& E.Phinney of > Cooperstown,NY. Cover is in very poor condition(back has come > unattached),and first few pages are torn. However,what caught my > attention was the fact that this bible must of belonged to a family > named "CARPENTER",as the pages for adding family information such as > births,deaths,marriages have been filled in with names such as; Hope > Carpenter,Benjamin Carpenter,Phebe Yost,Daniel Dewitt > Carpenter,Garner Carpenter, and others. Also found,stuffed within the > pages of the bible were; loose handwritten pages containing names & > dates of Carpenter marriages & deaths,and a copy of an obituary for > Daniel Dewitt Carpenter of Adrian Michigan. > > > Just thought someone would find it of interest. My apologies if this > is not listworthy. > > Tim Stowell ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CARPENTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Tim, Most of this line daughtered out. HOWEVER ... I was in contact with a Wayne Sidney Carpenter a few years ago who is a descendant. I have emailed him - I hope the e-address is still good. Thanks for sharing! John R. Carpenter La Mesa, CA Carpenter Cousins Y-DNA Project http://members.cox.net/johnrcarpenter/index.htm Hope Carpenter-20170 was born on 16 Mar 1757 in Hopewell, Hunterdon, NJ. He died on 4 May 1840 in Starkey, Yates, NY and was buried in Feb 1775 in Dundee, Hillside Cem., Section 2, , Yates, NY. Hope married (MRIN:8364) Phebe Yost-41473, daughter of Jacob Yost-41474 and Mary-41475 (MRIN:16118), on 24 Feb 1788 in Elizabeth Twp., Essex, NJ. Phebe was born on 8 May 1773 in Newtown, Sussex, NJ. She died on 25 Nov 1854 in Starkey, Yates, NY and was buried in Dundee, Hillside Cem., Section 2, , Yates, NY. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tim Stowell" <tstowell@chattanooga.net> To: <carpenter@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2007 5:41 PM Subject: [CARPENTER] Carpenter bible >I ran across this Carpenter bible on Ebay. I suppose if it is one of > your family it may be worth it. > > The blurb about it says in part - > > an 1832 copy of THE HOLY BIBLE,containing; the OLD AND NEW TESTAMENTS > together with THE APOCRYPHA,as published by H.& E.Phinney of > Cooperstown,NY. Cover is in very poor condition(back has come > unattached),and first few pages are torn. However,what caught my > attention was the fact that this bible must of belonged to a family > named "CARPENTER",as the pages for adding family information such as > births,deaths,marriages have been filled in with names such as; Hope > Carpenter,Benjamin Carpenter,Phebe Yost,Daniel Dewitt > Carpenter,Garner Carpenter, and others. Also found,stuffed within the > pages of the bible were; loose handwritten pages containing names & > dates of Carpenter marriages & deaths,and a copy of an obituary for > Daniel Dewitt Carpenter of Adrian Michigan. > > > Just thought someone would find it of interest. My apologies if this > is not listworthy. > > Tim Stowell

Tim, I'm sure there will be someone from that line who would be interested. I my research I found a whole bunch of Carpenters still in the area. Adrian is in Lenawee County, Michigan. Things like this are always list worthy. -----Original Message----- From: carpenter-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:carpenter-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Tim Stowell Sent: Thursday, December 06, 2007 7:42 PM To: carpenter@rootsweb.com Subject: *****SPAM***** [CARPENTER] Carpenter bible I ran across this Carpenter bible on Ebay. I suppose if it is one of your family it may be worth it. The blurb about it says in part - an 1832 copy of THE HOLY BIBLE,containing; the OLD AND NEW TESTAMENTS together with THE APOCRYPHA,as published by H.& E.Phinney of Cooperstown,NY. Cover is in very poor condition(back has come unattached),and first few pages are torn. However,what caught my attention was the fact that this bible must of belonged to a family named "CARPENTER",as the pages for adding family information such as births,deaths,marriages have been filled in with names such as; Hope Carpenter,Benjamin Carpenter,Phebe Yost,Daniel Dewitt Carpenter,Garner Carpenter, and others. Also found,stuffed within the pages of the bible were; loose handwritten pages containing names & dates of Carpenter marriages & deaths,and a copy of an obituary for Daniel Dewitt Carpenter of Adrian Michigan. Just thought someone would find it of interest. My apologies if this is not listworthy. Tim Stowell ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CARPENTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I ran across this Carpenter bible on Ebay. I suppose if it is one of your family it may be worth it. The blurb about it says in part - an 1832 copy of THE HOLY BIBLE,containing; the OLD AND NEW TESTAMENTS together with THE APOCRYPHA,as published by H.& E.Phinney of Cooperstown,NY. Cover is in very poor condition(back has come unattached),and first few pages are torn. However,what caught my attention was the fact that this bible must of belonged to a family named "CARPENTER",as the pages for adding family information such as births,deaths,marriages have been filled in with names such as; Hope Carpenter,Benjamin Carpenter,Phebe Yost,Daniel Dewitt Carpenter,Garner Carpenter, and others. Also found,stuffed within the pages of the bible were; loose handwritten pages containing names & dates of Carpenter marriages & deaths,and a copy of an obituary for Daniel Dewitt Carpenter of Adrian Michigan. Just thought someone would find it of interest. My apologies if this is not listworthy. Tim Stowell

Hello, Years ago, Billie Geist was on this list. Her email comes back as undeliverable. billiegeist@uswest.net I have new information on the Descendants of Isaac Hobbs Carpenter-54543 b. 20 Apr 1834 in Greenfield Twp., Luzerne, PA and who died on 25 Dec 1918 in Springfield, Sarpy, NE. This includes a SMGF - Sorenson Molecular Genealogy Foundation - results that was just posted on this line. Does any one know where she is? Let me know! John R. Carpenter La Mesa, CA Carpenter Cousins Y-DNA Group http://members.cox.net/johnrcarpenter/index.htm

Flora, I have 12 Abigail Carpenters, birth dates range from 1629 to 1787, when was she born, and I can give you a husband and parents, perhaps children. I used in live in Northville, on 8 mile road, across from Meadow Book Golf course. my mother taught 5th grade in Livonia for many years, in the 50s and 60s. Good luck John in Kansas _maproski@aol.com_ (mailto:maproski@aol.com) **************************************Check out AOL's list of 2007's hottest products. (http://money.aol.com/special/hot-products-2007?NCID=aoltop00030000000001)

Good morning, listers. In reading the Congregational Church records for Tinmouth, VT, I came across an item regarding the "widow Abigail Carpenter age 101 years - 1817." Since I've misplaced the 2nd disc of the Carpenter CD2001, could someone let me know who Abigail's late husband was? Many thanks Flora in Livonia **************************************Check out AOL's list of 2007's hottest products. (http://money.aol.com/special/hot-products-2007?NCID=aoltop00030000000001)

_Click here: Bible Records Online_ (http://www.biblerecords.com/surnames.html) This is a very useful webpage. Phoebe in CA **************************************Check out AOL's list of 2007's hottest products. (http://money.aol.com/special/hot-products-2007?NCID=aoltop00030000000001)

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Coma and death result if not reversed Hectical Complaint - Recurrent fever Hematemesis - Vomiting blood Hematuria - Bloody urine Hemiplegy - Paralysis of one side of body Hip Gout - Osteomylitis Horrors - Delirium tremens Hydrocephalus - Enlarged head, water on the brain Hydropericardium - Heart dropsy Hydrophobia - Rabies Hydrothroax - Dropsy in chest Hypertrophic - Enlargement of organ, like the heart Impetigo - Contagious skin disease characterized by pustules Inanition - Physical condition resulting from lack of food Infantile Paralysis - Polio Intestinal colic Abdominal pain due to improper diet Jail Fever - Typhus Jaundice - Condition caused by blockage of intestines King's Evil - Tuberculosis of neck and lymph glands Kruchhusten - Whooping cough Lagrippe - Influenza. Lockjaw - Tetanus or infectious disease affecting the muscles of the neck and jaw. Untreated, it is fatal in 8 days. Long Sickness - Tuberculosis. Lues Disease - Syphilis. Lues Venera - Venereal disease. Lumbago - Back pain. Lung Fever - Pneumonia Lung Sickness - Tuberculosis Lying in - Time of delivery of infant. Malignant Sore Throat - Diphtheria. Mania - Insanity. Marasmus - Progressive wasting away of body, like malnutrition. Membranous - Croup Diphtheria Meningitis - Inflations of brain or spinal cord Metritis - Inflammation of uterus or purulent vaginal discharge Miasma - Poisonous vapors thought to infect the air Milk Fever - Disease from drinking contaminated milk, like undulant fever or brucellosis Milk Leg - Post partum thrombophlebitis Milk Sickness - Disease from milk of cattle which had eaten poisonous weeds Mormal - Gangrene Morphew - Scurvy blisters on the body Mortification - Gangrene of necrotic tissue Myelitis - Inflammation of the spine Myocarditis - Inflammation of heart muscles Necrosis - Mortification of bones or tissue Nephrosis - Kidney degeneration Nepritis - Inflammation of kidneys Nervous Prostration - Extreme exhaustion from inability to control physical and mental activities Neuralgia - Described as discomfort, such as "Headache" was neuralgia in head Nostalgia - Homesickness. Palsy - Paralysis or uncontrolled movement of controlled muscles. It was listed as "Cause of death" Paroxysm - Convulsion Pemphigus - Skin disease of watery blisters Pericarditis - Inflammation of heart Peripneumonia - Inflammation of lungs Peritonotis - Inflammation of abdominal area Petechial Fever - Fever characterized by skin spotting Puerperal exhaustion Death due to child birth Phthiriasis - Lice infestation Phthisis Chronic wasting away or a name for tuberculosis Plague - An acute febrile highly infectious disease with a high fatality rate Pleurisy - Any pain in the chest area with each breath Podagra - Gout Poliomyelitis - Polio Potter's Asthma - Fibroid pthisis Pott's Disease - Tuberculosis of spine Puerperal Exhaustion - Death due to childbirth Puerperal Fever - Elevated temperature after giving birth to an infant Puking Fever - Milk sickness Putrid Fever - Diphtheria. Quinsy - Tonsillitis. Remitting Fever - Malaria Rheumatism - Any disorder associated with pain in joints Rickets Disease of skeletal system Rose Cold - Hay fever or nasal symptoms of an allergy. Rotanny Fever - (Child's disease) ??? Rubeola - German measles Sanguineous Crust - Scab Scarlatina - Scarlet fever Scarlet Fever - A disease characterized by red rash Scarlet Rash - Roseola Sciatica Rheumatism in the hips Scirrhus - Cancerous tumors Scotomy - Dizziness, nausea and dimness of sight Scrivener's palsy - Writer's cramp Screws - Rheumatism Scrofula - Tuberculosis of neck lymph glands. Progresses slowly with abscesses and fistulas develop. Young person's disease Scrumpox - Skin disease, impetigo Scurvy - Lack of vitamin C. Symptoms of weakness, spongy gums and hemorrhages under skin Septicemia - Blood poisoning Shakes - Delirium tremens Shaking - Chills, ague Shingles - Viral disease with skin blisters Ship Fever - Typhus Siriasis - Inflammation of the brain due to sun exposure Sloes - Milk sickness Small pox Contagious disease with fever and blisters Softening of brain Result of stroke or hemorrhage in the brain, with an end result of the tissue softening in that area Sore Throat Distemper - Diphtheria or quinsy Spanish Influenza - Epidemic influenza Spasms - Sudden involuntary contraction of muscle or group of muscles, like a convulsion Spina Bifida - Deformity of spine Spotted Fever - Either typhus or meningitis Sprue - Tropical disease characterized by intestinal disorders and sore throat St. Anthony's Fire - Also erysipelas, but named so because of affected skin areas are bright red in appearance St. Vitas Dance - Ceaseless occurrence of rapid complex jerking movements performed involuntary Stomatitis - Inflammation of the mouth Stranger's Fever - Yellow fever Strangery - Rupture Sudor Anglicus - Sweating sickness Summer Complaint - Diarrhea, usually in infants caused by spoiled milk. Sunstroke - Uncontrolled elevation of body temperature due to environment heat. Lack of sodium in the body is a predisposing cause. Swamp Sickness - Could be malaria, typhoid or encephalitis Sweating Sickness - Infectious and fatal disease common to UK in 15th century Tetanus - Infectious fever characterized by high fever, headache and dizziness Thrombosis - Blood clot inside blood vessel Thrush - Childhood disease characterized by spots on mouth, lips and throat Tick Fever - Rocky mountain spotted fever Toxemia of Pregnancy - Eclampsia Trench Mouth - Painful ulcers found along gum line, Caused by poor nutrition and poor hygiene Tussis Convulsiva - Whooping cough Typhus - Infectious fever characterized high fever, headache, and dizziness Variola - Smallpox Venesection - Bleeding Viper's Dance - St. Vitus Dance Water on Brain - Enlarged head White Swelling - Tuberculosis of the bone Winter Fever - Pneumonia Womb Fever - Infection of the uterus. 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John and Phyllis - my Ambrose was born in about 1827 to Henry and Anne Hoyle Carpenter. He was born in Lincoln Co., NC and immigrated sometime before 1850 when he is found in Tishomingo, Mississippi. He married Jane Davis in 1860. He died before 1879 as his wife and children were mentioned in his fathers will as the widow of Ambrose. Thanks to Carpenters A Plenty by Robert Carpenter I have finally been able to connect some dots. Henry's father appears to be Jacob and mother Suzannah Finger. Here is the will of Henry..... CARPENTER, HENRY dec. (PR452) 1. Original Bill, filed Sept. 7, 1878. Carpenter died leaving the following children and grandchildren: (1) S.C. Gardner (2) Ann Moore, daughter of Ben Carpenter dec. (3) A.D. Carpenter's children, to wit, Ann Horton (wife of Will Horton), Nicey Carpenter, Morrow Carpenter, Neely Carpenter, Henry Carpenter, Willie Carpenter, Oscar Carpenter, and their mother, Jane Carpenter. (4) Mat Carpenter's children, to wit, Tyson Carpenter, James Carpenter, Charlotte Smith (wife of Calvin Smith) and Mamie Storey (*Wife of William Storey) (5) Luther Carpenter dec., who left one child, Luther (6) I.F. Carpenter of Dorsey, Bradley Co., Arkansas. Ann Moore lives in Memphis, Tennessee, the children of A.D. Carpenter live in Prentiss Co., Ms., and Charlotte Smith lives in Alcorn Co., Miss. All the other heirs live in Tippah. 2. Cross Bill, Dec. 9, 1878. Hoyle Carpenter is a son of Henry Carpenter dec. I.F. (Finger) Carpenter is a son of Henry Carpenter dec. Henry L. Carpenter is a son of Henry Carpenter dec. Madison Carpenter is a son of Henry Carpenter dec. Frederick H. Carpenter is a son of Henry Carpenter dec. Luther Carpenter is a son of Henry Carpenter dec. 3. Deed of Henry Carpenter of Cleveland Co., North Carolina, to daughter, Sarah Gardner, July 14, 1845. 4. Deposition of Sarah C. Gardner, Oct. 10, 1879. Her father, Henry Carpenter, was married twice. His first wife was her mother (they had five children) I.F. Carpenter is her full brother. She was the only daughter by Henry's first marriage. Felix Carpenter is her half brother. 5. Deposition of Charlotte Carpenter, Oct. 10, 1879. She was married in York District, S.C. to Henry Carpenter when she was 23. She is now 71. After they married, they went the next day to Henry's home in North Carolina where they lived fifteen or sixteen years before moving to Tippah County. 6. Deposition of Jennie Carpenter, Oct. 10, 1879. She is a former slave of Henry Carpenter. Henry was first marriage to Annie Hoyle, daughter of Peter Hoyle. CARPENTER, HENRY, dec. (PR 1860-1879) Petition of James M. Carpenter, Luther Carpenter, Hoyle Carpenter, Isiah F. Carpenter, Ambros Carpenter, Faben H. Carpenter and Sarah Carner (wife of David Garner), Daniel Hunt, Admin, 1860 / case of S. C. Gardner vs. Felix Carpenter, Nov. 1879: cite S. C. Gardner, Tison Carpenter, Charlotte Carpenter, Annie Moore of Memphis, Tenn., Annie Horton, wife of Will Horton, Jane Carpenter, Charlotte (wife of Calvin Smith), Mamie (wife of William Smith, heirs of Henry Carpenter, dec. Obituaries from Ripley's SOUTHERN SENTINEL and Other Sources 1836 - 1936 Tippah Co., Mississippi History This is my ex-husbands family and I have been researching for my children, who of course don't give a hoot about "dead relatives" but maybe someday they will. Happy hunting! Susan -----Original Message----- From: carpenter-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:carpenter-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Phyllis Sent: Monday, November 12, 2007 5:35 PM To: carpenter@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [CARPENTER] Fw: - My William Carpenter, Carpenter Cousins Susan, Here is some of what I have. Descendants of James Henry Carpenter Descendants of James Henry Carpenter 1 [1] James Henry Carpenter 1852 - 1920 .. +? Thompson *2nd Wife of [1] James Henry Carpenter: .. +Cynthia Thompson 1856 - 1913 ........ 2 William H W Carpenter 1876 - 1913 ........ 2 George Green Carpenter 1878 - 1962 ............ +Harriet Louisa Brown 1880 - 1966 ................... 3 [2] Alva Pauline Carpenter 1898 - 1925 ....................... +Frank Davis ................... *2nd Husband of [2] Alva Pauline Carpenter: ....................... +Kay McGuire ................... 3 Bertha A. Carpenter 1900 - 1900 ................... 3 Son Carpenter 1901 - 1901 ................... 3 Uneeta Dorthea Carpenter 1904 - 1950 ....................... +Eugene Columbus Christian 1901 - 1960 ................... 3 Arietta Hortense Carpenter 1906 - 1999 ....................... +Roy K. Plummer 1897 - 1988 ................... 3 [3] Lela Lavinia Carpenter 1911 - ....................... +Marion Frank Warrach 1906 - 1989 ................... *2nd Husband of [3] Lela Lavinia Carpenter: ....................... +George O Jenkins 1918 - 1983 ................... 3 G. H. Carpenter 1916 - 2001 ....................... +Virgie Madaline Nichols 1923 - 1998 ................... 3 [4] Johnnie Dee Carpenter 1918 - 1999 ....................... +Thomas Peter Rickett 1910 - 1962 ................... *2nd Husband of [4] Johnnie Dee Carpenter: ....................... +Carroll Franklin Collins 1923 - 2000 ........ 2 Addie Lou Carpenter 1880 - 1938 ............ +John Andrew Snipes 1871 - 1932 ........ 2 Ada Bell Carpenter 1883 - 1950 ............ +Lawrence Monroe Snipes 1881 - 1977 ................... 3 Clyde Snipes ................... 3 Clyita Snipes ................... 3 Clorine Snipes ................... 3 Christine Mae Snipes 1912 - 1972 ....................... +Pace ................... 3 John A (Jack) Snipes 1915 - 1995 ....................... +Doris Keeton 1914 - ........ 2 Jessie Carpenter 1885 - ............ +T. J. Moore ........ 2 Charles Riley Carpenter 1888 - 1951 ............ +Della Grigsby 1890 - 1921 ................... 3 Carl Houston Carpenter 1915 - 1994 ........ 2 Dee Carpenter 1892 - 1971 ............ +Jewel Davidson ........ 2 Beulah Carpenter 1895 - 1895 *3rd Wife of [1] James Henry Carpenter: .. +Lisa Brannon ?Phyllis Rummel Photography -----Original Message----- From: Carpenter, Susan <susan.carpenter@oregonstate.edu> To: carpenter@rootsweb.com Sent: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 6:28 pm Subject: Re: [CARPENTER] Fw: 2007 Holiday Gift Certificates from FTDNA - Carpenter Cousins Y-DNA Project Phyllis my William Ambrose Carpenter immigrated to Oklahoma as well about 1880. He was born in Mississippi to Jane C. Davis and Ambrose Carpenter. Is there a connection? Susan Ashworth Carpenter -----Original Message----- From: carpenter-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:carpenter-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Phyllis Sent: Monday, November 12, 2007 2:56 PM To: carpenter@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [CARPENTER] Fw: 2007 Holiday Gift Certificates from FTDNA - Carpenter Cousins Y-DNA Project Are these just for the men?? My mother was a Carpenter, but she is deceased. Most of my side of the line has ended. There was a William Carpenter (Great Uncle) who went to OK, but have no information on his children.? My other cousins have passed on too. My Aunt, sister to my Mother is still alive.? ?Phyllis Rummel Photography -----Original Message----- From: John R. Carpenter <johnrcarpenter@cox.net> To: carpenter@rootsweb.com Sent: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 1:10 pm Subject: [CARPENTER] Fw: 2007 Holiday Gift Certificates from FTDNA - Carpenter Cousins Y-DNA Project Hello, Family Tree DNA (FTDNA) has opened up its Holiday Gift Certifcate Program. These certificates are for NEW DNA tests and are not for upgrades. If you have been waiting for a discount off the already group discounted rates for the Carpenter Cousins Y-DNA Project - Now is the time to apply! What is the Carpenter Cousins Y-DNA Project? See: http://members.cox.net/johnrcarpenter/index.htm I will keep the list posted with availability. First come, first serve. Contact me - off-list - for questions, further details or purchases not covered below. John R. Carpenter La Mesa, CA jrcrin001@cox.net subject: FTDNA Gift Certs Carpenter Cousins Y-DNA Project http://members.cox.net/johnrcarpenter/index.htm Limit two of each certificate per Surname Project. $15 off a Y-DNA25 Test 1) available 2) available $30 off a Y-DNA37 Test 1) available 2) available $15 off a mtDNA Test 1) available 2) available HOW MUCH DOES IT COST? The following costs are BEFORE the Holiday Gift discounts. As part of the Family Tree DNA Family Reconstruction Project Program, we have obtained the following special prices for our project: Y-DNA 25-marker test $148 + $2 SH Y-DNA 37-marker test $189 + $2 SH MtDNA - male or female maternal ancestry test (HVR-1) - $89 + $2 SH ** MtDNAPlus - male or female high resolution maternal match (HVR1 & 2) - $159 + $2 SH ** Please note SH - Shipping & Handling is $4 outside the United States. ** The MtDNA tests (X chromosome) are not compared on the Carpenter Cousins Y-DNA Project since they are for the mother's mother's mother, etc lines. Details from FTDNA: It's the Holiday season and Family Tree DNA is proud to offer our customers a discount on new Y-DNA 37, Y-DNA 25 and mtDNA Tests. Group administrators may choose any of the three gift certificates below to apply to a new kit order. Limit two of each certificate per Surname Project. $30 off a Y-DNA37 Test $15 off a Y-DNA25 Test $15 off a mtDNA Test To use the certificate: 1) Place the new kit order via the INVOICE PAYMENT method. 2) (Have the Group Administrator contact Jule with) the kit number once the order is complete and which gift certificate to use from your project. 3) The test price will be adjusted to reflect the gift certificate discount. 4) PLEASE DO NOT USE CREDIT CARDS WITH THIS PROMOTION AS THE CARD WILL BE CHARGED THE FULL AMOUNT. The Order must be placed and paid for between November 6, 2007 and December 31, 2007. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CARPENTER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ________________________________________________________________________ Email and AIM finally together. 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