And Keith and I hope your Easter Day was a very happy one. Thank you for being so helpful and available to the greater Carpenter Family. Sincerely, Keith and Dawn ----- Original Message ----- From: John R. Carpenter<mailto:johnrcarpenter@cox.net> To: Carpenter Roots web<mailto:CARPENTER@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, March 23, 2008 11:44 AM Subject: [CARPENTER] Let us remember our Carpenter Family,close and distant kin. Happy Easter to all! As our minds reflect, let them linger on Loved ones near and far. Let us remember our Carpenter Family, close and distant kin. Let us not forget them that protect us, physically and spiritually. And one, we shall all meet before the great Bar and know that we are one Family. John R. Carpenter La Mesa, CA ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to CARPENTER-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:CARPENTER-request@rootsweb.com> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Phoebe, Joshua's wife was Sarah Burt, their son, Daniel Carpenter married Rebecca Dunn, and their son Benjamin C. Carpenter has a cousin Jane Dunn living with him in 1860 thru 1900 census. Eliza Dunn in 1860 census is possibly another cousin. I have no clue who the parents of these Dunn's were. Jane gives both parents born NY in 1880 and 1900 census. Dennis

Dennis, Do you have any information on Rebecca Dunn who was born in New Jersey, wife of Joshua? The reason I ask is because my Moses Carpenter was an exec. to the will of one Phinias Dun of of Goshen, Orange Co, NY will made 12/26/1786 named wife Anna Du and dau Zeruiah and Elizaabeth. Wit Calvil Shepard and Ezra Doty. Moses first wife was Elizabeth Runyon of Morris Co NJ. Runyons first settled in Piscataway, NJ. Phoebe in CA **************Create a Home Theater Like the Pros. Watch the video on AOL Home. (http://home.aol.com/diy/home-improvement-eric-stromer?video=15?ncid=aolhom00030000000001)

Some notes I have gathered about Daniel Carpenter and his family, including the will abstract first found at the Chemung County NYGebWeb Dennis F. Carpenter ***** note: Carpenter, Joshua, grandfather of Benjamin C., came to Newtown (now Elmira) in [1788], and located permanently the following year upon the homestead on which his grandson still owns. At this date Elmira had but one house. His son Daniel, born near Newburgh, Orange County, NY in 1776, came here in 1788 with his parents and about 1798 married Rebecca Dunn, who was born in New Jersey. They had ten children viz.: Sarah, James D., Burt, John, Thomas, Elizabeth, Catherine, Rebecca, William, and Benjamin C. The latter, born March 16, 1825, has always been a farmer and a bachelor, the town line runs through his house. (Our county and its people: a history of the valley and county of Chemung from the closing years of the eighteenth century. Part VII, p.32, Ausburn Towner 1892) note: the above list of children of Daniel appear to be in birth order. note: Will dated 17 Apr 1848, probated 31 MAY 1849 giving Daniel's age as 71y and upwards. Mentions wife Rebecca; sons Benjamin, James, Daniel B., John, William; daughters Sarah VanSickle, Elizabeth Cook, Rebecca Campbell. Executors: sons John Carpenter, William Carpenter Witnesses: Almon Cook of Elmira, Marilla Chapman of Elmira. note: The Whitney Family of Connecticut by Stephen Whitney Phoenix, 1878 [p. 491] 2509 X. Sally Maria Truesdell, b. at Warwick, N. Y., 13 June 1813; married, 22 Feb. 1843, at her father's house in Elmira, N. Y., by Elder P. D. Gillett, pastor of the First Baptist Church, to John Carpenter; a farmer and hotel-keeper, son of Daniel and Rebecca (Dunn) Carpenter, of Elmira, where he was born 22 Aug. 1807. They, settled at Horseheads, N. Y., and were living there in Jan. 1886. note: Carpenter, Daniel, born April 7, 1845, is the proprietor of the Half-way Hotel, which has been in existance since soon after the Sullivan campaign. He married, April 13, 1868, Phebe J., oldest daughter of Robert and Elizabeth Sample, of Horseheads, and they have one daughter, Lizzie, born August 8, 1876. His father, John, was the third son of Daniel, who married, first, August 16, 1831, Nancy Beckwith, by whom he had five children, viz.: Eliza A., Mary E., Thomas D., John, and Nancy. For his second wife he married Phoebe Tubbs, April 6, 1842, and February 22, 1843, he marrie, third, Sally M., daughter of John and Esther Trusdal, of Horseheads. Their children were Daniel and Esther. (Our county and its people : a history of the valley and county of Chemung form the closing years of the eighteenth century, Part VII, page 32, Ausburn Towner, 1892)

Happy Easter to all! As our minds reflect, let them linger on Loved ones near and far. Let us remember our Carpenter Family, close and distant kin. Let us not forget them that protect us, physically and spiritually. And one, we shall all meet before the great Bar and know that we are one Family. John R. Carpenter La Mesa, CA

339 At a Surrogates court held at the Village of Elmira in the County of Chemung on the 12th day of May 1849, before John W Wisner Esqr county judge of Chemung County -- In the matter of the proof of the Last Will & Testament of Daniel Carpenter Decd. The petition of John Carpenter of Elmira in the county of Chemung Respectfully Showeth that your petition is named one of the Executors in the Last Will & Testament of Daniel Carpenter late of the town of Elmira in the county of Chemung deceased, that said Deceased died at his place of residence in said town of Elmira on the 27th day of April last past, that his said last Will & Testament disposes of both real & personal estate, that said deceased left a Widow named Rebecca and the following named children heirs at law   340 and next of kin to said Deceased to wit James Carpenter, Daniel B Carpenter, this deponent, William Carpenter, Benjamin Carpenter, Betsey Cook, Rebecca Campbell and the following named grandchildren, children of Sally Vansickle Decd. daughter of said Deceased to wit William Vansickle, Thomas Vansickle, Betsey Vansickle, Daniel Vansickle, Elijah Vansickle, Lewis Vansickle, that the said Vansickes are all minors except William Vansickle -- This Deponent prays that said Last Will & testament may be admitted to probate and Letters testamentary these (then?) on granted according to law. John Carpenter Chemung County ss - John Carpenter the above named petitioner being duly sworn says that the above petition signed by him and the matters therein stated are ??? Sworn this 12th day of May 1849. Before me John W. Wisner Chemung County Judge At a Surrogates court held at the Village of Elmira in the county of Chemung on the 12th day of May 1849 before John W. Wisner Chemung County Judge, on the day & at the place aforesaid John Carpenter one of the Executors named in the Last will & testament of Daniel Carpenter late of the said county deceased appeared and offered the said will for probate and made satisfactory proof before the said county Judge that the said deceased died on the 27th day of April last past and was at the time of his death an inhabitant of said county , It is therefore ordered that a citation issue to the widow & next of kin of the said deceased to appear & attend the probate of the said will before the said county Judge at his office in the Village of Elmira on the 21st day of May 1849 at one o'clock in the afternoon. John W. Wisner Chemung county Judge The People of the State of New York. To Rebecca Carpenter widow, James Carpenter, Daniel B Carpenter, William Carpenter, Benjamin Carpenter, Betsey Cook, Rebecca Campbell, William Vansickle, Erastus P. Hart Special Guardian of Thomas Vansickle, Betsey Vansickle, Daniel Vansickle, Elijah Vansickle, Lewis Vansickle, minors   341 Heirs at law & next of kin to Daniel Carpenter late of the town of Elmira in the County of Chemung & State of New York Decd. Whereas John Carpenter one of the executors named in the last will and testament of the said Daniel Carpenter deceased his this day offered the said will for probate before John W. Wisner County Judge, surrogate of the county of Chemung, You are there fore hereby cited to appear before the said County Judge at his office in the Village of Elmira in the county of Chemung on the 21st day of May next at one o'clock in the afternoon to attend the probate of the said will. SS Given under the hand and official seal of the said county Judge at Elmira in said county this 12th day of May 1849. John W Wisner Chemung County Judge & Surrogate At a surrogates court held on the day and at the place mentioned in the above citation before John W. Wisner Chemung County Judge ?? came John Carpenter one of the executors named in the last will and testament of said Daniel Carpenter deceased and it appearing in proof that legal service of said citation had not been made on James Carpenter one of the heirs at law and next of kin to said deceased, it is therefore ordered that further citation issue to said James Carpenter to appear and attend the probate of said will before the said county Judge at his office in the Village of Elmira on the 31st day of May next at one o'clock in the afternoon, and that these proceedings stand adjourned to that time and place. John W. Wisner Chemung County Judge The People of the State of New York To James Carpenter of Elmira in the county of Chemung one of the heirs at law and next of kin to Daniel Carpenter late of the town of Elmira in the county of Chemung and State of New York deceased. Whereas John Carpenter one of the executors named in the last will & testament of the said Daniel Carpenter deceased has this day offered the said will for probate before John W Wisner County Judge & Surrogate of the county of Chemung : You are therefore hereby cited to appear before the said County Judge at his office in the Village of Elmira   342 in the county of Chemung on the 31st day of May next at one oclock in the afternoon to attend the probate of thee said will. SS Given under the hand and official seal of the said surrogate at Elmira in said county this 21st day of May 1849. John W Wisner County Judge & Surrogate At a surrogates court held at the town of Elmira in the county of Chemung on the 31st day of May 1849. before John W Wisner county Judge of Chemung county, on the day and at the place aforesaid John Carpenter & William Carpenter executors of the last will & testament of Daniel Carpenter late of the town of Elmira in the county of Chemung Deceased appeared for the purpose of proving said will. William Carpenter also appeared. Where upon I the county Judge aforesaid proceeded to hear the proofs and allegations of the said parties and thereupon the said John Carpenter & William Carpenter produced satisfactory proof of lawful service of notice of this application on all the heirs of the said deceased at least eight days previous to this 31st May inst. Where upon the persons who are subscribing witnesses to the said will were by the said County Judge duly sworn to prove the execution of the said will and testified as follows. Chemung County ss. Almon Cook of the town of Elmira in the county of Chemung testified that he was aquainted with Daniel Carpenter late of the town of Elmira aforesaid the testator in the last will & testament here in court produced and who is now deceased that he saw the said Daniel Carpenter the said testator sign his name to the said will and heard him at the same time declare the same to be his last will & testament. that Marilla Chapman the other subscibing witness was present at the time the said testator executed his said will as aforesaid and that as well he the said Almon Cook as the said Marilla Chapman the other subscribing witness was present at the time the said testator executed his will at the request of the said testator in his presence and in the presence of each other and that the said testator at the time he executed his said will as aforesaid   343 was of sound mind memory & understanding and not under any restraint to his knowledge or belief Sworn this 31st day of May / Almon Cook 1849. Before me, John W Wisner Chemung County Judge Chemung County Ss: Marilla Chapman being first duly sworn and examined testified that she was called on to be a witness to the last will & testament of Daniel Carpenter late of the town of Elmira deceased. that the will here in court produced is the same to which she subscribed her name as a witness, that she saw the said Daniel Carpenter the testator sign his name to the said will and heard him declare the same to be his last will & testament and that at the same time at the request of the testator she subscribed her name as a witness in his presence, and that she the said Marilla Chapman and the said Almon Cook the other subscribing witness subscribed their names as witnesses to the execution of the said will by the testator as aforesaid in his presence and in the presence of each other and that the said Daniel Carpenter the testator at the time he executed his said will & testament as aforesaid ws of sound mind memory & understanding and not under any restraint to her knowledge and compitent as she considered to execute his said will. Sworn this 31st day of May / Marilla Chapman 1849. before me John W Wisner Chemung County Judge The foregoing proofs and examinations were taken before me the county Judge aforesaid on the 31st day of May 1849 at my office in the Village of Elmira in the county of Chemung and the depositions of Almon Cook and Marilla Chapman the only subscribing witnesses to the said will were by their repectively subscribed after having first carefully read over to their and I the said county Judge being satisified upon the said proof before me taken as aforesaid that lawful service of notice of proving the said will has been served on the heirs of the said Daniel Carpenter the testator deceased. that the said will was duly executed and that the said testator   344 at the time of executing the same was in all respects competent to devise real estate and not under restraint do therefore allow the said will proofs & examinations to be recorded and that letters testamentary issue to the executors in said will named__ John W Wisner Chemung County Judge (will) The last will and testament of Daniel Carpenter of the town of Elmira in the county of Chemung and state of New York. I, Daniel Carpenter aged Seventy one years and upwards being of sound mind & memory blessed be Almighty God for the same do make and publish this my last will & testament in manner and form following First I give and bequeath unto my well beloved wife Rebecca all my household furniture for her use during her lifetime and at her decease I give the same to my son Benjamin Carpenter Secondly, I give and bequeath to my sons James Carpenter and Daniel B. Carpenter each the sum of one hundred dollars to be paid to them severally within two years after my decease. And to my son John Carpenter I give and bequeath the sum of Fifty dollars payable within two years after my decease. Thirdly, I give and bequeath unto my daughters Sarah Vansickle, Elizabeth Cook and Rebecca Campbell each the sum of one hundred dollars , and I hereby direct that the legacies to Sarah Vansickle and Elizabeth Cook be paid to them severally within one year after my decease and the legacy to my daughter Rebecca Campbell I order and direct the same to be paid to her within two years after my decease. Fourthly , I give and devise unto my son William Carpenter and unto his heirs and assigns forever ten acres of land to be laid off the North side of my farm on which I now reside and next adjoining his farm to be of such width as will make the ten acres by n??ing the whole width of my farm east and west course. Fifthly , I give and devise unto my son Benjamin Carpenter all the rest and residue of my homestead farm and unto his heirs and assigns forever , And I also give and bequeath unto him all my personal property of every kind and nature what soever. And I do hereby expressly charge the real estate devised unto him and the personal property bequeathed him with   345 the payment of the several legacies herein bequeathed to my sons and daughters , and also with the payment of all just debts and funeral expenses , And I hereby personally charge my said son Benjamin with the care and maintainance of my wife Rebecca with food ???ent and all necessary medical attendance during her lifetime , and in every asspect to be comfortably provided for in my present dwelling house and at her decease to pay all necessary furneral expenses. Sixthly , I hereby authorize and direct my executors hereinafter named to make, execute and deliver unto Dan'd Tillotson a deed for a lot of land near the steam sawmill of said Tillotson as soon as said Tillotson shall comply with the contract for the purchase of said lot from me. Lastly , I do hereby constitute and appoint my sons John Carpenter and William Carpenter executors of this my last will & testament. In witness whereof I have hereunto set my hand & seal this 17th day of April 1848. Daniel Carpenter ss The foregoing instrument of one sheet was now here subscribed by Daniel Carpenter the testator in the presence of each of us and at the time of the execution hereof by him he declared the same to be his last will & testament and we at his request subscribed our names hereto as attesting witnesses. Almon Cook, Elmira, Chemung County Marilla Chapman, Elmira, Chemung County ----- transcribed by Dennis F. Carpenter, March 2008  

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Will of Benjamin C. Carpenter of Veteran, Chemung, NY transcribed by Dennis F. Carpenter, March 2008   110 Chemung County Surrogates Court ss John Carpenter of Elmira, County aforesaid, being duly sworn saith that Benjamin C. Carpenter late of the Town of Veteran in the County of Chemung died on the 26th day of May last past at his residence in the said town of Veteran a natural death. That the said decesed left an instrument in writing purporting to be his last will and Testament bearing the date The 16th day of March 1846 That the said deceased left a widow Eunice and no children or Father but did leave Brothers and sisters (towit?) Daniel Carpenter of Elmira & Thomas Carpenter of Bigflats County of Chemung. William Carpenter, James Carpenter, Samuel Carpenter and John H. Carpenter (Sarah Barber, Abigail Barber, Thomas Barber of Adrian, Lenawee County, Michigan - Margaret whose husbands name or residence is not known to this deponent Children of Polly Barber) Hannah the wife of Samuel Whitney who resides in Shelby, Orleans County, Ny. Abigail the wife of James Vanhorn of Orleans County, Ny Town not known and Richard A. Carpenter of Angelica, Allegany County, Ny, all of whom are the age of twenty one years & upward & that said Will relates to both Real and personal Estate. John Carpenter Subscrib??? and sworn before me This 11th day of June 1846 B B Payne Surrogate The people of the State of New York to Eunice Carpenter of Veteran, Daniel Carpenter of Elmira, Thomas Carpenter of Bigflats County of Chemung Ny, William Carpenter, James Carpenter, Samuel Carpenter, John H. Carpenter, (Sarah Barber, Abigail Barber & Thomas Barber of Adrian, Lenaway County Michigan, Margaret whose husbands name or residence is not known Children of Polly Barber deceased   111 Hannah wife of Samuel Whitney of Shelby Orleans County Ny. Abigail wife of James Vanhorn of Orleans Co, town not known & Richard A Carpenter of Angelica, Allegany County Ny ??? ???? Whereas John Carpenter of Elmira has lately applied to our Surrogate of the County of Chemung to have a certain Instrument in writing bearing the date The 16th day of March 1846 perrporting to dispose of both real and personal Estate duly proved as the Last Will and Testament of Benjamin C Carpenter late of Chemung County -- Therefore you & Each of you are cit?? & required personally to be and appear before our said Surrogate at his office in the Village of Elmira on the 30th day of July next at 10 OClock in the fore noon of that day Then and There to attend to the probate of the said last Will and Testament In Witness whereof The Surrogate of our said County has hereunto affixed his seal of office The 11th day of June 1846 B. B. Payne, Surrogate Chemung County ss I certify That I did on the 11th day of June 1846 put in the Post Office at Elmira Copies of the written citation directed to Each viz Wm Carpenter, James Carpenter, Samuel Carpenter, John H Carpenter, Sarah Barber, Abigail Barber and Thomas Barber at heir respective places of residence B. B. Payne, Surrogate Chemung County Surrogates Court ss John Carpenter being duly sworn saith That More Than Eight days ago he served a Copy of the written citation on Each Eunice Carpenter, Daniel Carpenter and Thomas Carpenter John Carpenter Subscribed & sworn before me This 30th day of July 1846 B B Payne, Surrogate   112 State of New York Niagara County ss Harvey S. Harrington being duly sworn saith he did on the 20th day of June 1846 Serve a Copy of the written citation personally on Abigail wife of James Van Horn within named. H S Harrington Sworn to this 22nd day of June 1846 before me P L Ely Justice of the peace State of New York Orleans County ss Hardin Beebe being duly sworn saith he did on the 23rd day of June 1846 serve a copy of the written citation on Hannah Whitney within named Hardin Beebe Sworn before me this 26th day of June 1846 Alexis Ward - Supreme Court Commissioner State of New York Allegany County ss William S. Carpenter being duly sworn saith he did on the 11th day of July 1846 serve a copy of the written citation on Richard A Carpenter within named Wm S Carpenter Sworn & subscribed before me this 15th day of July 1846 Smith Davis Justice of the peace of Allegany County State of New York City & County of Albany ss Samuel S Barnes of the city of Albany being duly sworn say that he is foreman in the office of the Albany Argus the paper published by the Printer to the State and that the notice of which the annexed is a printed copy has been regularly published in said Albany Argus once in each week for six weeks successively commencing on the 15th day of June 1846 S S Barnes   113 Sworn before me this 24th day of July 1846. Firman Crowell Commissioner of Decd. The People of the State of New York To Eunice Carpenter of Veteran, Daniel Carpeter of Elmira, Thomas Carpenter of Big flats Couty of Chemung Ny, William Carpenter, James Carpenter, Samuel Carpenter, John H Carpenter (Sarah Barber, Abigail Barber and Thomas Barber of Adrian, Lenawee co. Michigan, Margaret whose husbands name or residence is not known children of Polly Barber deceased) Hannah wife of Samuel Whitney of Shelby, Orleans County Ny, Abigail wife of James Vanhorn of Orleans County town not known & Richard A. Carpenter of Angelica, Allegany Co. Ny (send?) greeting. Whereas John Carpenter of Elmira has lately applied to our Surrogate of the County of Chemung to have a certain instrument in writing bearing the date the 16th day of March 1846 purporting to dispose of both Real & personal Estate duly proved as the last Will & Testament of Benjamin C Carpenter late of Chemung County. Therefore You and Each of you are cited and required personally to be and appear before our said Surrogate at his office in the Village of Elmira on the 30th day of July next at 10 OClock in the forenoon of that day Then and There to attend to the probate of the said last Will and Testament SS In witness whereof the Surrogate of our said County has hereunto Affixed his seal of Office the 11th day of June 1846 B. B. Payne Surrogate   114 Chemung County Surrogates Court ss John Jackson of Elmira, County aforesaid, being duly sworn saith that he was well aquainted with Benjamin C Carpenter late of the Town of Veteran, County aforesaid, The Testator in his last Will and Testament here in court produced and who is now deceased that he saw the said Benjamin C Carpenter the Testator sign his name to the said Will and hear him at the same time declare the same to be his last Will and Testment that Usher H Davy the other subscribing witness was present at the time the said Testator Executed his said Will as aforesaid that this deponent and the said Usher H Davy subscribed their names as witnesses to the Execution of the said Will at the request of the said Testator in his presence & in the presence of Each other and that the said Testator at the time he Executed his said Will as aforesaid was of sound mind Memory and understanding and not under any restrant to the knowledge of this deponent and compitent as he (consiecived?) to Execute his said Will John Jackson Subscrbed & sworn before me this 30th day of July 1846 B B Payne Surrogate Chemung County Surrogates Court ss Usher H Davy of the Town of Veteran, County aforesaid, being duly Sworn saith that he was well aquainted with Benjamin C Carpenter late of the town of Veteran aforesaid the Testator in his last Will and Testament here in court produced and who is now deceased that he saw the said Benjamin C Carpenter the Testator sign his name to the said Will and hear him at the same time declare the same to be his last Will and Testament that John Jackson the then subscribing witness was present at the time the said Testator Executed his said   115 Will as aforesaid that this deponent & the said John Jackson subscribed their names as witnesses to the Execution of the said Will at the request of the said Testator at the time he Executed his said Will as aforesaid was of sound Mind Memory and understanding and not under any restraint to the knowledge of this deponent and compitent as he considered to Execute his said Will Usher H Davy Subscribed & sworn before me this 30th day of July 1846 B. B. Payne Surrogate Chemung County Surrogates Court ss John Carpenter of Elmira, County aforesaid, being duly sworn saith that the said last Will & Testament of Benjamin C Carpenter deceased which is now here in court produced was delivered to him after the decease of the said Testator by Eunice Carpenter widow of the said deceasd for the purpose of delivering to the Surrogate of the County of Chemung for probate that said Will was Enclosed & Sealed when received and so (remained?) ??? delivered to the said Surrogate John Carpenter Subscribed & sworn before me this 30th day of July 1846 B B Payne Surrogate [WILL]   In the name of God, Amen. I, Benjamin C. Carpenter of the Town of Veteran in the County of Chemung and State of New York being of sound and disposing mind memory and understanding do hereby make publish and declare my Last Will and Testament in manner and form following First I order and direct that my Executors here in after named pay all my just debts and funeral charges as soon after my decease as convenently may be   116 Secondly I give and bequeath to my beloved wife Eunice Carpenter all my personal property for her use and behoof and to be by her dispo??? of she may see proper, and desire That she shall pay one Equal half of a certain Bond and Mortgage Executed by me to the heirs of Charles Hulett Esqr for the sum of Five Hundred dollars. I also Give and Bequeath tomy wife Eunice Carpenter Seventy Eight acres of the farm on whichI now reside Beginning at The East line of said Farm and running west far enough to make the said Seventy Eight Acres together with all the Buildings and Appintinances Thereunto belonging for her use benefit and behoof during her natural life. Thirdly I give and bequeath to John Alexander twenty five Acres of Land on the West End of the farm on which I now reside Also Seventy Eight Acres of Timber Lot which is now in Contract from Hiram Gray which I design to have deeded to John Alexander - Also I Give and bequeath to John Alexander The Seventy Eight Acres above described as set off for my wife after her decease he paying one half of the Bond and Mortgage above named made to the heirs of Charles Hulett for five hundred dollars. Also to pay to Hiram H. Carpenter three hundred dollars as follows (viz) One hundred dollars one year after the decease of my wife, One hundred dollars in two years after her decease & one hundred dollars at Three years after the decease of my wife. Fourthly I give and bequeath to Eliza M. Spencer one hundred dollars to be paid by John Alexander one year after my decease. Fifthly I give and bequeath to brother Richard A. Carpenter five dollars also to my brother William Carpenter five dollars aso to Daniel Carpenter my brother five dollars, also to my brother Samuel Carpenter five dollars, also to my sister Hannah   117 Whitney five dollars, also to my sister Abigail Van Horn five dollars, also to my brother James Carpenter five dollars, also to my brother John H. Carpenter five dollars. The bequests last made to my Brothers & Sisters to be paid within two years after my decease. Sixthly I do hereby Nominate and Appoint my Beloved wife Eunice Carpenter my Executrix and John Carpenter and Stephen Johnson Executors of this my Last Will and Testament and hereby Expressly revoke all and Every former will by me made in witness. I have hereunto set my hand and Seal This Sixteenth day of March in the year of our Lord One Thousand Eight hundred and forty six. Signed sealed Published and declared by the Testator to be his Last Will and Testament in The presence of us who at his request and in his presence of Each other have subscribed our names John Jackson of the Town of Elmira Chmg co Usher H Davy of the Town of Veteran Chemg co   State of New York Chemung County ss I, Benajah B Payne, Surrogate of the County of Chemung do hereby certify that in pursuance of Chapter 6 title 1 Article 1 part 2nd of the Revised Statutes of the State of New York upon proofs & Examinations taken before me in the County of Chemung aforesaid on the 30th day of July 1846 by the oaths of John Jackson & Usher H Davy the only subscribing witnesses to the within Will that the within Will was duly Executed that the Testator at the time of Executing the same was in all respects competent to divise real Estate & not under any restraint - And I the Surrogate aforesaid do further certify that the within Will and the pr??? thereof are recorded in   118 my office in Book No 2 kept by me for recording Wills and Testaments and Codicils proved before me on pages from 110 to 118 SS In Witness whereof I the Surrogate aforesaid have hereunto affixed my seal of Office at Elmira in the said County of Chemung The 30th day of July in the year 1846 B B Payne Surrogate I Benajah B Payne Surrogate of the County of Chemung do hereby Certify that the within Will has been admitted to probate by me and that probate thereof was granted on the 30th day of July 1846 B B Payne Surrogate  

Seems I remember someone was researching QUICKLE. I ran across this and the name Quickle caught my eye. 1917 -1918 ALABAMA - BIRMINGHAM CITY WW1 DRAFT REGISTRATION JAKE QUICKLE CARPENTER 4701 1st Ave Birmingham Jefferson AL Age: 32 DOB: 10-2-1885 White Native born Lumber Inspector TENN Coal & Iron RR, Fairfield, AL NEAREST RELATIVE: **Elizabeth Carpenter (mother) 4701 1st Ave Birmingham Jefferson AL Tall, med build, brown eyes, dark hair ___________________________________________________________ **Note this cannot be the same Elizabeth Carpenter (wife of Samuel) in Clay County AL as that Elizabeth was already deceased. Donna Carpenter-Cuzze www.donnacuzze.com/genealogy.html MAY GOD BLESS YOU TODAY

Jessie wrote: > On a poor copy of an 1863 map, there is a house next to a canal. I > believe it was a stopping place for the canal men. There is a three > letter abbreviation before the owners name. It looks like "Hrs" of > (owner's name). Elsewhere the houses have only the owners name. Are you saying the map says something like "Hrs of Smith", or is it just "Hrs Smith"?? If it's the latter, then I suggest the first letter is an "M" instead of an "H". John Chandler

On a poor copy of an 1863 map, there is a house next to a canal. I believe it was a stopping place for the canal men. There is a three letter abbreviation before the owners name. It looks like "Hrs" of (owner's name). Elsewhere the houses have only the owners name. A hotel also elsewhere is only labeled "Hotel". Any guesses as to what "Hrs" might mean? Jessie

In a message dated 2/29/2008, johnlsaywhat@aol.com writes: << Arnold family makes some claims abt their lineage back to Ynir king of the brits.But never really proved it. >> In fact, the royal Welsh ancestry claimed for William Arnold in 1879 (NEHGR 33:432-38) has long since been demolished (see NEHGR 69[1915]:64-69; _Rhode Island Historical Society Collections 14[1921]:33-49, 68-69). See an authoritative, though brief, discussion of these articles in Robert Charles Anderson, George F. Sanborn Jr., Melinde Lutz Sanborn, _The Great Migration: Immigrants to New England 1634-1635, Volume I, A-B_ (Boston, 1999), 89-90. A more detailed discussion may be found online at _http://www.squidoo.com/familygroupsheetalbertarnold_ (http://www.squidoo.com/familygroupsheetalbertarnold) . Gene Z. **************Ideas to please picky eaters. Watch video on AOL Living. (http://living.aol.com/video/how-to-please-your-picky-eater/rachel-campos-duffy/ 2050827?NCID=aolcmp00300000002598)

Back in 1998 some of the LIPHAM descendants and I worked to prove that Lucinda (Carpenter) Lipham's father, Thomas M. Carpenter b. Apr 23, 1810 GA was brother to James Warren Carpenter b.1813 GA. Yesterday as I was finally transcribing some more of the letters that James Warren Carpenter's wife Sallie had kept; I ran across this letter from Simon Simeon Lipham: Letter by Simon LIPHAM (b.1873) proves that THOMAS M. CARPENTER & JAMES WARREN CARPENTER of Henry County GA circa 1830 were brothers. Feb 2008: Letter now in possession of *Ethyl Merle Sumner's daughter Jackie Sumner. THANKS TO GINGER CARPENTER FOR SCANNING THE LETTERS ! Letter below transcribed by Donna Carpenter-Cuzze on Feb 28, 2008. All rights reserved by Jackie Sumner. Wedowee R#1 Ala Apr 7, 1912 Mrs. Sallie Carpenter , Lineville Ala I take pleasure in writing you a few lines this morning which this leaves us all well. I sure do hope this will find you well and enjoing good health Aunt Sallie. You don't no how bad I wat to see you. I have thought of you thousands of times since I have seen you. Oh how glad I would be if I could see you. I go to Lineville a heap but I don't no where you live are I would try to come to see you. If you will come home with me I will come after you. Who are you living with? How far do you live from Lineville? All the rest of the connection is all well as far as I no of. Well sure do have a heap of rain the people has a bad time about farming. It is raining here now. My Pa and Mama is is boath dead. How bad I miss them. Mrs. BECK lives here with me. She has bin sick but she is about well I think. She is a good woman. Well Aunt Sallie if I thought that you would get this letter and I could here from you I would write more. So I will close by saying excuse this short letter. Please answer soon as you get this. Rite me a heap Aunt Sallie. Can't you send me one of your pictures when I come to see you I will bring you one of mine. Rite soon to. SIMON LIPHAM Simon Lipham's parents were Lucinda CARPENTER & Thomas Newton LIPHAM, proved by Bible record and 1880 census records of Randolph County AL. Lucinda Carpenter's parents were Lucinda BARROW & Thomas M. CARPENTER, proved by Bible record and 1880 census records of Randolph County AL. THIS LETTER PROVES THAT : The Thomas M. Carpenter & James Warren Carpenter who were named in FiFa Suits of Henry County Georgia together were indeed brothers !!! James Warren Carpenter b.1813 GA d. 1857 Clay Co AL (whose wife would be Simon Lipham's Great Aunt) SALLIE CARPENTER b.1820 GA d. 1914 AL and who saved this letter !! *Ethyl Merle is daughter of Allace Ethyl Morris & Wm Dallas Carpenter. Wm Dallas Carpenter was son of Mary Elizabeth Ray & James Warren Carpenter, Jr. of Clay Co AL. Donna Carpenter-Cuzze 2-28-2008 dcuzze@earthlink.net MAY GOD BLESS YOU TODAY

In a message dated 2/28/2008 3:03:08 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, carpenter-request@rootsweb.com writes: It is a conclusion based mainly on the following: Gene, Thank you for the Explanation you brought up some good points esp abt the Carpenter- Arnold relationships. Arnold family makes some claims abt their lineage back to Ynir king of the brits.But never really proved it. **************Ideas to please picky eaters. Watch video on AOL Living. (http://living.aol.com/video/how-to-please-your-picky-eater/rachel-campos-duffy/ 2050827?NCID=aolcmp00300000002598)

Irish Americans looking for their roots will have an opportunity to learn how to trace their family trees back to Europe at a genealogy lecture scheduled to take place in Bridgeport on Saturday, March 15, 2008. The presentations by three noted researchers will take place at Housatonic Community College 900 Lafayette Blvd in Bridgeport starting at noon. Prof. Jonathan Shea, a foreign language professor at HCC, will lead off the sessions speaking about American sources needed to find information about the family on this side of the ocean, some of which will take the researcher back to the family?s place of origin in Ireland. Among the sources to be discussed are local birth, marriage and death records, probate files, church registers and similar documentation generated on a local level as well as information laden records of the federal government such as decennial census returns, WWI draft registrations and ships passenger lists from Ellis Island and other ports of entry. Shea, a New Britain native, traces his paternal roots to the counties of Offaly and Mayo in Ireland and has done on site research in the National Archives in Dublin, local county records offices and Catholic parish archives in his counties of origin. Stated Shea, "My family not only emigrated to the US but to the United Kingdom, Australia, Argentina and New Zealand so tracking down all the various branches of the family has taken me on a documentary journey to four continents." Resources in Ireland will be discussed by Janet Pestey of the Connecticut Society of Genealogists. Major records sources such as the nineteenth century Griffiths Valuation Lists and the surviving Irish census returns will be covered as well as information on national vital records indexes many of which are available at the Family History Center in Woodbridge and the resources to be found at Irish National Archives. Also included will be Civil Registration records which began in 1864, church records, tithe records estate records. Local sources and computer sites will also be discussed. The speaker is a retired educator and a frequent lecturer on the topic. The third in the trio of experts is Daniel Lynch of Trumbull. Lynch will concentrate on internet sources researchers can use from the comfort of their own home to hunt for ancestors. As more and more records are digitized and becoming available on home computers, this facet of genealogical research is among the fastest growing aspects of genealogy. a pastime of millions Americans. Lynch is a 22 year veteran of the computer industry and served as a consultant to the Statue of Liberty-Ellis Island Foundation and was featured on ABC News Good Morning America as part of their genealogy series. The author of numerous genealogy articles, Lynch is a frequent lecturer on genealogy and technology. The seminar is the result of a collaboration between Housatonic, The Connecticut Society of Genealogists, headquartered in East Hartford and the Connecticut Ancestry Society headquartered in Stamford. Free parking in the college's parking garage is available to all participants and all are welcome at the event. There is no charge to attend the lectures. The Irish program is the second of a series of genealogy lectures held at Housatonic. Last year's seminar on Polish and Eastern European research attracted a capacity crowd from all over the state as well as persons from neighboring states. To obtain an approximate head count of those planning to attend, would-be participants are asked to contact Prof. Shea at jshea@hcc.commnet.edu, Stephanie Hyland of The Connecticut Society of Genealogists csginc@ctfamilyhistory.com, or Rob Locke of Connecticut Ancestry Society at info@connecticutancestry.org **************Ideas to please picky eaters. Watch video on AOL Living. (http://living.aol.com/video/how-to-please-your-picky-eater/rachel-campos-duffy/ 2050827?NCID=aolcmp00300000002598)

On 2/27/2008, in reply to my posting of 2/25/08 ("Joseph2 Carpenter of Warwick, R.I., and Musketa Cove, L.I."), John L. Carpenter writes: << Joseph2 Carpenter was born about 1638, probably at Providence Plantation (not 1635, in England), what is this based on what Source? >> _______________________ John, It is a conclusion based mainly on the following: (1) a rejection of the assumption that, because Joseph2 witnessed a deed in 1656, he must have been an adult at the time and thus born about 1635; and (2) a 1664 deposition in which Joseph Carpenter reports his age as 26. English common law entitled a child of fourteen (the _age of discretion_) to choose a guardian, testify in court, bequeath personal property in a will, indenture oneself without parental consent--and witness documents (see William Blackstone, _Commentaries on The Laws of England_, 4 vols. [Oxford, 1765-1769], vol. 1, ch. 17, online at _www.yale.edu/lawweb/avalon/blackstone/bk1ch17.htm_ (http://www.yale.edu/lawweb/avalon/blackstone/bk1ch17.htm) ). The deposition is published in _Harris Papers_, Collections of the Rhode Island Historical Society, vol. 10 (Providence, 1902), 72-73. Most of the above information is presented in my previous posting's first paragraph, which ends with the following: "For a detailed discussion of this and related issues—the immigration of William1 Carpenter of Providence (ca. 1636, as a single man) and his marriage to Elizabeth Arnold (ca. 1637, probably at Providence)—see _The New England Historical and Genealogical Register_ 159:67–68." Included in that discussion is additional evidence--that William1 Carpenter of Providence did not arrive in New England with his wife and her family in 1635 and had not known them in England--lending support to the conclusion relating to Joseph's approximate year (and probable place) of birth. As it happens, John, near the bottom of the "Descendants of William #1 Carpenter" page of your website you have posted most of the contents of my e-mail message to this list, dated 3 Feb. 2002, which presents essentially the same information (both that above and below). But for your convenience and that of other interested parties, here's an excerpt of the _Register_ article, copied and pasted from my typescript of it (the footnote numbers are actually 58-65): APPENDIX 2: THE MARRIAGE AND IMMIGRATION OF WILLIAM1 CARPENTER OF PROVIDENCE Since first asserted in 1901, it has become dogma that the marriage of William Carpenter of Providence to William1 and Christian (Peak) Arnold’s daughter Elizabeth occurred in England and that the nascent Carpenter family (including son Joseph) came to Massachusetts with the Arnolds,_[1]_ (#_ftn1) who arrived on 24 June 1635._[2]_ (#_ftn2) There are several reasons to doubt that Carpenter had any contact with the Arnolds in England, however. First, his probable former home of Amesbury, Wiltshire, and that of the Arnolds, at Ilchester, Somersetshire, are more than forty miles apart._[3]_ (#_ftn3) “ [H]oping to assist further research,” Elisha Arnold (1935) introduces the 1606 marriage of Richard Carpenter and Susanna Trevelian, recorded at Nettlecombe, Somerset (seventy plus miles from Amesbury), as “seem[ing] to connect in some way with a John and Richard at Salisbury, 7 miles from Amesbury.”_[4]_ (#_ftn4) So as to put William Carpenter and Elizabeth Arnold in close proximity in England, overzealous researchers have converted this item into the now frequently seen (online) assertions that Richard and Susanna (Trevelian) Carpenter were Providence William’s parents and that Richard died at Ilchester in 1625. Trevelian’s husband, however, died at Loxhore, Devonshire, in 1627 and left neither a son William nor a daughter Frideswide (see note 49)._[5]_ (#_ftn5) The Richard Carpenter buried at Amesbury, 21 September 1625, is far more likely to have been William’s father than one said to have died at Ilchester that year._[6]_ (#_ftn6) A second reason for skepticism as to Carpenter-Arnold contact in England is that while William1 Arnold--like William1 Carpenter, an original Providence proprietor--was granted a house-lot at Hingham, Massachusetts, on 18 September 1635, William1 Carpenter was not._[7]_ (#_ftn7) Had the latter man already married Elizabeth Arnold and immigrated with her family, he, too, almost certainly would have become a Hingham proprietor; the town’s records fail altogether to mention him, however. William1 Carpenter first appears in New England records at Providence, no earlier than mid 1637, under “Agrements & orders the second year of ye Plantation” (begun at Seekonk in the spring of 1636 and relocated to present-day Providence that summer)._[8]_ (#_ftn8) [Reasons three and four pertain to Joseph2's approximate birth year (see this message's first paragraph).] ____________________________________ _[1]_ (#_ftnref1) See, for example, Daniel Carpenter, _Carpenter Family at Providence_ [note 9], 8-9, 30, 31; Elisha Stephen Arnold, _The Arnold Memorial: William Arnold of Providence and Pawtuxet, 1587-1675 . . . _ (Rutland, Vt.: Tuttle Publishing Co., 1935), 9, 52; Mildred Mosher Chamberlain, “Early Rhode Island Settlers,” _Rhode Island Roots_ 13 (1987):75. _[2]_ (#_ftnref2) Edwin Hubbard, “Early Records of the Arnold Family,” _Register_ 33 (1879):428. _[3]_ (#_ftnref3) See _Early Records of Providence_ [note 12], 5:323; Edson Salisbury Jones, “The Parentage of William Arnold and Thomas Arnold of Providence, R.I.,” _Register_ 69 (1915):66-68. _[4]_ (#_ftnref4) Arnold, _Arnold Memorial_ [note 58], 35. _[5]_ (#_ftnref5) Charles William Boase, ed., _Registrum Collegii Exoniensis: Register of . . . Exeter College, Oxford_ (Oxford: Oxford Historical Society, 1894), 86; Frederick Brown, _Abstracts of Somersetshire Wills, etc_., Frederick Arthur Crisp, transcriber, 6 vols. (London: the transcriber, 1887-90), 2:109-10. _[6]_ (#_ftnref6) See Amesbury Parish Register, vol. 1, unpaged; Daniel Carpenter, _Carpenter Family at Providence_ [note 9], 8n. On Amesbury’s eastern border is the parish of Newton Toney, where on 7 August 1603 a Richard Carpenter married Alice Knight and another Richard Carpenter married Ann Kent on 31 October 1603 (Newton Toney Parish Register, unpaged [FHL 1,279,336, item 13]). The latter man died at Newton Toney in 1614 (ibid.; Archdeaconry Court of Sarum, Reg. 8, fol. 226 [FHL 0,994,489, item 1]); the only Newton Toney record surely of the former is that of his marriage. Among a dozen or so legatees named in the 1599 will of Robert Carpenter of Newton Toney is Richard Carpenter of “Aymsbury” (relationship not stated), quite possibly the man of that name who married Alice Knight (see Prerogative Court of Canterbury, 93 Kidd, fol. 47 [FHL 0,092,005]). Evidence of this or of the couple’s being Providence William’s parents is not found, however. The apparent family connection between Robert Carpenter of Newton Toney and Richard Carpenter of Amesbury nevertheless tends to diminish further the likelihood that the latter was the son of Robert Carpenter of Marden (see Appendix 1, paragraph 3, above). (The author was alerted to the above-cited marriage and probate records and their potential implications by John R. Carpenter. While his CD unfortunately omits any qualifying language in presenting Alice Knight as the wife of Richard of Amesbury and mother of William1 of Providence [it also gives her an unsupported Sussex origin], he informally acknowledges that this is not confirmed [see _Encyclopedia of Carpenters_ (note 51), file 91sd, no. 92].) _[7]_ (#_ftnref7) Hubbard, “Early Records of the Arnold Family” [note 59], _Register_ 33:428; Bartlett, _Records of the Colony of Rhode Island_ [note 6], 1:19-20; Glenn W. LaFantasie, _The Correspondence of Roger Williams, Volume 1, 1629-1653_ (Providence, R.I.: Rhode Island Historical Society, 1988), 55 notes 2, 3; Daniel Carpenter, _Carpenter Family at Providence_ [note 9], 13-16; Hingham Book of Possessions, 1:29v (“Hingham Proprietors Grants of Land, 1635-1677,” microfiches 13-18 on _Massachusetts Vital Records, Hingham 1635-1900_ [Oxford, Mass.: Holbrook Research Institute, 1990], microfiche 13). _[8]_ (#_ftnref8) See _Early Records of Providence_ [note 12], 1:3; Howard M. Chapin, _Documentary History of Rhode Island_, 2 vols. (Providence, R.I.: Preston & Rounds, 1916-19), 1:42-43. The complete citation for this is Eugene Cole Zubrinsky, "Abiah3 Carpenter of Warwick, Rhode Island, and His Family: With Additional Material Concerning William1 Carpenter of Providence, Rhode Island, and William2 Carpenter of Rehoboth, Massachusetts," _The New England Historical and Genealogical Register_ 159(2005):55-68, at 67-68. 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In a message dated 2/26/2008 3:03:37 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, carpenter-request@rootsweb.com writes: Joseph2 Carpenter was born about 1638, probably at Providence Plantation (not 1635, in England), what is this based on what Source? John L. Carpenter PO Box 912 Walpole,N.H. 03608-0912 **************Ideas to please picky eaters. Watch video on AOL Living. (http://living.aol.com/video/how-to-please-your-picky-eater/rachel-campos-duffy/ 2050827?NCID=aolcmp00300000002598)

Gene, Hadn't heard from you for some time, appreciate the information, it will fill in some blanks and give me some good information. Thank You John Proctor in KS **************Ideas to please picky eaters. Watch video on AOL Living. (http://living.aol.com/video/how-to-please-your-picky-eater/rachel-campos-duffy/ 2050827?NCID=aolcmp00300000002598)

In a message dated 2/25/2008, John Mac Carpenter writes: << My Joseph, son of Wm of Providence and son-in-law of Wm of Rehoboth was born in RI 1635/38 and died in Muscetta Cove NY 1695. >> Joseph2 Carpenter was born about 1638, probably at Providence Plantation (not 1635, in England), and died at Musketa Cove (then a plantation in Oyster Bay Township; now the town of Glen Cove, Nassau County), Long Island, Province of New York, between 15 or 17 February 1682[/3] and 15 March 1683/4, son of William1 and Elizabeth (Arnold) Carpenter of Providence (Pawtuxet section, now in Cranston), Colony of Rhode Island and Providence Plantations. On 3 May 1656, Joseph2 Carpenter witnessed a deed of Pawtuxet (Providence) land from his maternal uncle Stephen2 Arnold to Joseph’s father, William1 Carpenter (_The Early Records of the Town of Providence_, 21 vols. [Providence, 1892-1915], 1:44–45). It has been supposed that Joseph was then an adult and thus was born about 1635, prior to his parents’ emigration from England (see, for example, Carpenter [1901], 8–9, 30, 31; Arnold, _Arnold Memorial_ [1935], 9, 52; _RI Roots_ 13:75). It cannot be assumed, however, that Joseph was an adult when he witnessed the deed. Witnesses as young as fourteen (the age of discretion) are found in early New England records. When on 9 February 1657 Joseph, his brother Ephraim, and sister Lydia witnessed a deed of Pawtuxet (Warwick) land from an Indian sachem to their father, at least two and probably all three siblings were minors (see Bamberg and Fiske, eds., _More Early Records of the Town of Warwick, Rhode Island_ [Boston, 2001], 80–81). The most reliable approximation of Joseph’s birth date is based on a deposition that he and Benjamin Smith gave on 16 October 1664 (_Harris Papers_, Collections of the Rhode Island Historical Society, vol. 10 [Providence, 1902], 72–73). Its description of Joseph as “Aged 26 yeeres” implies a birth year of about 1638 and Providence as his probable birthplace. For a detailed discussion of this and related issues—the immigration of William1 Carpenter of Providence (ca. 1636, as a single man) and his marriage to Elizabeth Arnold (ca. 1637, probably at Providence)—see _The New England Historical and Genealogical Register_ 159:67–68. Two Musketa Cove proprietors’ records, respectively dated 13 and 15 February 1682[/3], indicate that Joseph was still living at this time (_Oyster Bay Town Records_, 8 vols. [N.Y., 1916-1940], 1:640–41). (Both follow on the same page a record dated 28 December 1682.) Three others, apparently recorded at or very near the same time as the foregoing ones, probably extend by two days the 15 February date, the latest on which Joseph is known with certainty to have been alive: all three are dated 17 February 1682 [probably 1682/3] (ibid., 1:642–44). On 15 March 1683/4, William1 Carpenter of Providence added to his will a codicil in which his son Joseph is described as deceased (PrTR 6:138– 48, at 147–48). Joseph2's namesake son also died well before 1695: On 9 September 1687, Joseph3 Carpenter made a quitrent payment to provincial authorities on behalf of the Town of Oyster Bay (_Oyster Bay Town Records_, 2:337 [also 1:307–8]). But he was “late deceased” when a “memorandum” of the birth, on 16 Oct. 1685, of his “Eldest son and Heire,” Joseph4, was recorded at the top of a page also containing a record dated 6 January 1691 [probably 1691/2] (ibid., 2:350– 51). Joseph4's birth was probably recorded soon after his father's death (by 1691) and almost certainly after the birth of the latter's only other known child, Thomas, on "8 mo. [October (not August)], 16th day, 1687" (see Frost, _The Haviland Genealogy_ [Jamaica, N.Y., 1914], 186, citing family record). The record is worded so as to clarify that Joseph4--not his brother, Thomas--was (in keeping with the law of primogeniture) entitled to inherit his father's estate. Gene Z. **************Ideas to please picky eaters. Watch video on AOL Living. (http://living.aol.com/video/how-to-please-your-picky-eater/rachel-campos-duffy/ 2050827?NCID=aolcmp00300000002598)

My Joseph, son of Wm of Providence and son-in-law of Wm of Rehoboth was born in RI 1635/38 and died in Muscetta Cove NY 1695. There are a lot of Joseph's in his descendancy but not in my ancestry. However I do have Roxanna's in my family, supposedly beginning with a woman who married my great granduncle, Alva Francis Carpenter, b 1828 Cameron Steuben county NY. His brother John, my great grand father b 1828 in Steuben county named a son Alva Francis (my grandfather) and a daughter Mary Roxanna. Then Alva Francis (Frank) named his first child Mary Roxanna, and his sister Mary Roxanna who married Lorenzo Dow Fox in WI, named a son Alva. There is still a Roxanna, a first cousin once removed of mine who lives in Houston TX. There is probably no connection between my Roxannas and your Roxie Ann, though you never know. Dick, I can't take you to our connection but our DNA says it's there. -----Original Message----- From: carpenter-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:carpenter-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Brad & Bonnie Kershaw Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2008 3:12 PM To: carpenter@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [CARPENTER] FW: [PAYNE] Mensa Geneology Colloquium Sept 2008 John and Meralyn, Do either of you have any mention of a RoxeyAnn Carpenter (b Oct. 1812; married Asahel Luther) or an Alfred Madison Carpenter (b. Mar 24, 1830 in Madison County, NY; d. Jan 14, 1915, KS) in your lines? They are the oldest and youngest of a family of 11 children. Alfred Madison Carpenter is my g-grandfather and my brick wall. I'm looking for names of the other 9 siblings and parents. If you have any possibilities, please help me scale my wall! Thanks, Bonnie -----Original Message----- From: carpenter-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:carpenter-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of genwrite@aol.com Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2008 2:42 PM To: thecarponline2@msn.com; carpenter@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [CARPENTER] FW: [PAYNE] Mensa Geneology Colloquium Sept 2008 Dear John:? (Smile)? I have been researching my Theda Carpenter for about 10 years now.? I've been told that her father was a Joseph and that her mothers name was Harriett, but have not been able to confirm that.?? Theda was born at De Ruyter, NY in 1804, and married Milton Maxson Main ca 1823.? They immigrated to Chenango county then to Portville NY, and settled at Main Settlement east of Portville.? If your Joseph is a possibilty I would love to compare notes and share information.??? Thanks much???? Meralyn -----Original Message----- From: Richard Carpenter <thecarponline2@msn.com> To: carpenter@rootsweb.com Sent: Sat, 23 Feb 2008 1:42 pm Subject: Re: [CARPENTER] FW: [PAYNE] Mensa Geneology Colloquium Sept 2008 Hi John I am descended from Joseph of the New York Carpenters, who settled on the Big Bend of the Jackson River in 1750. My DNA goes back to William of Providence Dick Carpenter ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Mac Carpenter" <jcarpenter@dbllcnet.net> To: <Carpenter-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2008 12:57 PM Subject: [CARPENTER] FW: [PAYNE] Mensa Geneology Colloquium Sept 2008 > >From another list. This is a meeting I plan to attend. Would enjoy > >meeting > some cousins there. I'm descended in the male line from Wm of Providence > and also from Hannah, daughter of Wm of Rehoboth. Our DNA shows a large > line of Carpenters from VA to be kin as well, but no one has the data for > that as yet. 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