I am desperately seeking info on the Carpenter's who settled in the Duanesburg, NY area. In particular would be David b. about 1825, Caleb b. about 1810, Wm H. b. about 1826, Abram b. about 1786. Lots of old testament names in these households. The family also spent time in the Berne, NY area. My GGG grandfather George Carpenter was brother to David who both married Babcock girls (sisters?). Any info no matter how small would be GREATLY appreciated.

If anyone has Carpenter ancestors from Bennington County, Vermont please let me know. I am looking for the siblings and parents of Henry Carpenter, born 2/5/1825. Thanks, Sheila

Elnora Carpenter b. 1869 in Indiana and d. ?????. Married Charles L. Bradley on Oct. 14, 1886 in Floyd County, Indiana. Can anyone identify this person? Sincerely, Neil Smith

Fred Hiram Carpenter b. ???? d. 1944. Married Nov. 21, 1886 Emma Lee Fine Can anyone identify this person? Sincerely, Neil Smith

1764 Benjamin Carpenter of Or Co. W. Mary sons: Gilbert, John and Samuel, "thruee youhngest daughters": sarah, Mary Rhoda, exec, wife and cousin Samuel. Wit Henry Wisner, Jr. and JOHN CARPENTER SMITH, Isaiah Halsted. 1766 JOHN CARPENTER of Blooming (Green?) prob. Gorve, Or Co, merchant. Wife Jane, son Mathew. Dau Julia, Rachel and Amina. Brothers: Elijah and Wm. Carpenter. Brothers in law: Hezekiah Howell, Jr, stephen Howell, Charles Howell. sisters in law: Phoebe, Susannah and Abigail Howell. Exec: Wife and Michael Jaackson and Hezekial Howell, Jun. Wit Thomas Geag (?), Samuel Smith Jr. and WM CARPENTER. Both of the above wills appear to have been proved the same date: Oct 10, 1767. Does anyone know how these people may have been related??? 1761 Carpenter, Soloman of Goshen Or Co. Ch of sons: John and Anthony, dec'd. (these children were not listed by name, drat!!!!); sons: Soloman and Nehemiah; dau Mary Ffin, exec. Soloman and Nehemiah. Wit Benjamin Cory, James Cory, and M. Dunning. (This is probably the Soloman Carpenter of John of John of Wm of Rehoboth from Jamaica who early bought property in Or. Co. - I have an abstract of his deeds. Or. co history says that he had sold part of his property to his brother John - there seems not to be an recorded deed that substantiates that statement.) Note: This is the Soloman for whom the Carpenter Assoc. discussed earlier on this list was formed and wrote the book re. his descendants. 1760 Carpenter, John of Goshen W. Elener, son Anthony, dau Hannah and Eunice, property in Wawayanda patten, land near Sugarloaaf also some on Connecticut purchase on the Susquehannah River. Exec Wife; Wit Soloman Carpenter, Jr., Thomas Wickham, Nehemiah Carpenter. prov 1760 also. (Is this John mentioned as son in previous will? Soloman's son John?) 1777 BARKER, WILLIAM of Goshen, w. Susannah, son John and Wm. Land near Elizabethtown, NJ and Or Co. exec wife and son John. Wit james Denton, WM THOMPSON , Anthony CARPENTER 1781 COOLEY, NATHAN of Cornwall Prec. Or Co yeoman. W. Keziah, sons Nathan, justus, Daniel. dau Hannah. Wife's dau Peniner. Exec. Wife and brother in law JOHN CARPENTER and thomas Moffatt. Wit George Durya, Garrett Duryea, and Enos Ayres. 1777 COLEMAN, GEORGE of Little Britain, Ulster Co. w. Kezia, sons: George, Gideon, John, David, and James. Dau Keziah, Sarah, Cathearine, Hannah, Mary and Lydia. Exec and NEHEMIAH CARPENTER of Newburgh. Wit: David Belknap, Moses Hunt of Ul Co, yoeman, and Benjamin Robinson. Well, I guess this is enough for today. Would appreciate any feedback or comments regarding the relationships of any of these folks to each other, including the witnesses and execs! I hope this is valuable to some of you folks. I have appreciated your response. Phoebe

Dear Beverly, You requested information about James and Henry Smith. I have a Henry Smith whose daughter married Moses Carpenter as his second wife in Goshen, NY. This Henry does not seem to have a brother named James. Most of my Smith information comes from The American Genealogist, Vol. 25, page 22 which starts a long list of the descendants of William Smith of Jamaica. I have only a few pages. There is a James Smith, son of Wait Smith who is brother of Caleb Smith, the father of my Henry, making this James and Henry Smith first cousins.. Wait Smith died between 1750 and 1753. No dates or other information about James who is mentioned in the will of his father Wait Smith. Caleb and Wait Smith are sons of Wait Smith and Phebe Ashman. William Smith is father of Wait. Perhaps you can get hold of TAG and look at volume 25 for other Jamse Smiths. Margaret Cass cassm@voicenet.com

That book is called THE ANCESTRY AND DESCENDANTS OF COL. SOLOMAN CARPENTER OF GOSHEN, NEW YOU Researched and compiled and issued by the CARPENTER FAMILY ASSN. printed in 1974. Some of the original correspondence by the person who put this together is on file in the Locked History Room of the Goshen Public Library. I would love to have pgs 59 - 94. I have the other pages. Phoebe In a message dated 99-04-07 16:01:41 EDT, you write: << Subj: Carpenter References Date: 99-04-07 16:01:41 EDT From: ANALYTIX@valley.net (Robin Carpenter) To: CARPENTER-L@rootsweb.com I could use some help in identifying a source book. I have in my posession (from some time ago), two photocopied chapters on Carpenters, from some book of which I don't know the title or author. The front pages of the two chapters I have are headed: "Chapter 3 The Jamaica L.I. Carpenters John Carpenter Sr." "Chapter 4 Solomon Carpenter of Goshen, NY Col. Solomon Carpenter" >>

I could use some help in identifying a source book. I have in my posession (from some time ago), two photocopied chapters on Carpenters, from some book of which I don't know the title or author. The front pages of the two chapters I have are headed: "Chapter 3 The Jamaica L.I. Carpenters John Carpenter Sr." "Chapter 4 Solomon Carpenter of Goshen, NY Col. Solomon Carpenter" I have found these chapters very useful, especially for interpreting some of Amos B. Carpenter's assertions. I sure would like to know what source these chapters come from--and what the other chapters may cover. If you know the title, author or publisher, I'd sure be grateful if you would please advise. Robin

In a message dated 99-04-07 17:31:24 EDT, you write: << Subj: Re: CARPENTER WILLS Date: 99-04-07 17:31:24 EDT From: kancer@uswest.net (kancer) To: MzCortez@aol.com, NYULSTER-L@rootsweb.com Phebe--yes I need more information. What do you know about the witness JAMES SMITH, in the will for Samuel Carpenter? I am trying to find a Presbytarian James and Henry Smith in the area. Help! Thanks Beverly kancer@uswest.n >> Well, I know this: I am looking for the parents of Moses Carpenter b. ab 1750 Or. Co. reported to be theson of John and Ruth (Coe) Carpenter who were from jamaica, LI. My Moses m. 1st my ancestor: Elizabeth Runyon dau of Richard Runyon of Morris co., NJ. After her death, he married 2nd. HANNAH SMITH b. 13 Aug 1755. She, Hannah, was the dau of HENRY AND JOANNE SMITH of Or. Co. (also a family from Jamaica, LI). As she was not my direct ancestor, I am going to forward this to another researcher who is descended from her and may be able to give you more information. I hope this was helpful. I am sure you know there are even more Smiths than Carpenters in these woods. Phoebe

Does anyone know if this Ruth w. of Joseph Carpenter is also Ruth wife of James Smith? Please compare the two wills. # 1. I previously posted: 1775 CARPENTER, JOSEPH the 3rd of Goshen Prec, Or Co. W Ruth, son: Daniel, dau Hannah and Ruth, AN EXPECTED CHILD. Exec: Daniel Vail and John Smith, cooper. Wit: Michael Jackson, Wm Oldfield, Hannah Smith # 2 James Smith 1783 JAMES SMITH, Goshen Prec. Or. Co. w. RUTH. An expected child, Niece Sarah Bradner, stepson DANIEL CARPENTER, nephews: Asa, Richard, Wm and John, sons of John Smith, Jonathan and Enus, sons of brother Wm Smith, George and Wm sons of br. Joshua Smith. Exec, nephew Joh, son of Wm smith and Samuel Gale of Galeborough. Wit John Smith, cooper, Caleb Smith, weaver and John Smith, Jr. of a said prect. Then we have these Smith/Carpenter wills. 1777 Smith, John Carpenter of Goshen Prect or. Co. Ch. richard, Anna, John, Phebe, Jesse and Asa. Exec. br. Waid Carpenter and Samuel Gale; Wit Samuel Baly, David Baly and John Conner. prov. 177?? Could these be Wait Carpenter ;and John sons of John Carpenter and Elizabeth who died in 1738/9 As posted on my last e-mail Phoebe

1738 prov. 1741 JOHN CARPENTER of Goshen w Elizabeth ch John, Wait and Rebecca, also an unborn child, brother JOSEPH, Samuel, Benjamin and Timothy. Exec. JOSEPH CARPENTER and Wait Smith, Jr. and Benjamin Carpenter. Wit. Wm Smith, Soloman Smith, Wm. Ffin. QUESTIONS; 1. Does anyone know the name of the unborn child? 2. Which CARPENTER family is this JOHN CARPENTER descended from? a. Wm of Rehoboth - the presbyterians b. Wm of RI - congregationalists c. Caleb Zimmerman/Carpenter - Quaker 1752 SAMUEL CARPENTER of Goshen, Orange Co. wife Patience, sons Samuel, Wm. ABRAHAM, JOHN, Joshua, Richard. Dau Abigail and Martha and one UNBORN CHILD. Exec. Wait Smith, Jr. and Benjamin Carpenter. Wit: James Smith, Samuel Webb and Jonathan Webb. QUESTIONS: #1 and # 2 above. 1767 ALLISON, RICHARD of goshen, w. Martha sons Joseph, John and Wm. Dau elizabeth, Martha and Margaret. Exec. Brother in law John Wells and son in law: SAMUEL CARPENTER. Wit JAMES CARPENTER, James ryan and Timothy Owen. Question # 2 above. 1775 CARPENTER, JOSEPH the 3rd of Goshen Prec, Or Co. W Ruth, son: Daniel, dau Hannah and Ruth, AN EXPECTED CHILD. Exec: Daniel Vail and John Smith, cooper. Wit: Michael Jackson, Wm Oldfield, Hannah Smith QUESTIONS # 1 and # 2. OK, want more??? Phoebe

Hi Phoebe, The Abraham you gave her looks like the one on page 32 that I sent you. The one who married Lydia Totten? Gail MzCortez@aol.com wrote: > > In a message dated 99-04-06 01:42:35 EDT, you write: > > << Subj: Re: Abraham Carpenter, FU > Date: 99-04-06 01:42:35 EDT > From: barnes@wheatstate.com (barnes) > To: MzCortez@aol.com > > Phoebe: Thanks for the information. I don't see right now that it fits > in with mine, but I'll certainly hang onto it. You would think there > would be more Abrahams, wouldn't you? Thanks again - Sharon > >> > > Ok, How about this guy? > > Abraham Carpenter of North Castle, Westchester County, 18 day 2n mo 1780; w > Lidia: dau Freelove and Elizabeth, when the come of age or marry; sons - not > named, wit. James Weeks of North Castle; David Marshall; Rebecah Marshall > proved W. Co. Sept 1784 Will liber 37 pg. 192 in Record or vol 13:4 on the > CD. > Phoebe

In a message dated 99-04-05 19:56:36 EDT, you write: << Subj: Page 33 Date: 99-04-05 19:56:36 EDT From: dardena@mix-net.net (Gail Howard) To: MzCortez@aol.com CC: swguinn@kanza.net >> Gail, I just found my copies of Cole Carpenter of Moscheto cove in Oyster bay , W Sarah, dau Elizabeth, Deborrah and Freelove ; oldest son Maurice, then Benjamin, Latting and James Kinsmen and neighbours Charles Valentine, David Valentine and William Mudge exec. Wit thomas Kirkley, jaco Downing and Mary Crooker proved June 23 1781 Benjamin Carpenter OY, w Mercy, youngest dau Mary and Ann, eldest dau Elizabeth and Hannah. Son Joseph, son Benjamin, son R obert, w and son Joseph exec. Dated Dec 2, 1729 Witnesses Nicholas -------------------------------------------(unfortunately I am missing a line)--Joseph Carpenter were Quakers. Proved April 13, 1730 Levi Baily of Courtland Manor, Westchester Co. son Levi, son Gilbert, son thomas, James, Devoe. John Stedwell, not sure if he is a son. Da Sarah, Leah wife of Daniel carpenter, dau Elisabeth w of stephen Baker. Son James, Hachaliah Brown and John Stedwell exec. Dated Sept 23, 1783 wi. Ephraim Beakear, Jerusha Beakear, patrick lamb. Proved Oct 26, 1786.

In a message dated 99-04-06 01:42:35 EDT, you write: << Subj: Re: Abraham Carpenter, FU Date: 99-04-06 01:42:35 EDT From: barnes@wheatstate.com (barnes) To: MzCortez@aol.com Phoebe: Thanks for the information. I don't see right now that it fits in with mine, but I'll certainly hang onto it. You would think there would be more Abrahams, wouldn't you? Thanks again - Sharon >> Ok, How about this guy? Abraham Carpenter of North Castle, Westchester County, 18 day 2n mo 1780; w Lidia: dau Freelove and Elizabeth, when the come of age or marry; sons - not named, wit. James Weeks of North Castle; David Marshall; Rebecah Marshall proved W. Co. Sept 1784 Will liber 37 pg. 192 in Record or vol 13:4 on the CD. Phoebe

I wish to learn more about the identity of Elizabeth Albertson who married Nehemiah Carpenter, Nov 15, 1750 on Long Island NY. She is said to have been the daughter of "the widow Mary Albertson." Who was her father? What was her mother's maiden name? Thanks for any help. Robin C.

This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------C5FFE05370E8AD7233E47A2C Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit If you are having trouble accessing the site listed below, try this URL first. http://www.mdch.state.mi.us/PHA/OSR/gendis/index.htm cheers MzCortez@aol.com wrote: > Dear Folks, > > I just found this great web site. By putting in the surename of the father > you can find the married dau, etc. Of course you can find the individual by > putting the surename. > > The ones on this particular list I got by using Carpenter as the fa. surename. > > Phoebe > > Genealogical Death Indexing System - Michigan > > BUTLER, MARTHA > Date of death: 19-Apr-1882 > Ledger Page: 287 > Record Number: 2408 > Place of death: Ingham > County of Death: Ingham > Sex: Female > Race: White > Marital Status: Widowed > Age: 85 years 9 months 15 days > Cause of Death: Old Age > Birthplace: Stockbridge Mass > Occupation: Housekeeper > Father's Name: Carpenter, David > Father's Residence: Deceased > Mother's Name: Carpenter, Julia > Mother's Residence: Not Recorded > Date of record: 1-Jun-1883 > > <A HREF="http://www.mdch.state.mi.us/scripts/gendis/search.idc">GENDIS Search > results</A> --------------C5FFE05370E8AD7233E47A2C Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii; name="jcarp.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Card for Jerry Carpenter Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="jcarp.vcf" begin:vcard n:Carpenter;Jerry tel;cell:206-484-5551 tel;fax:253-891-3090 tel;home:253-891-2910 tel;work:253-891-3090 x-mozilla-html:FALSE url:http://www.ccstrat.com org:Continental Consulting Strategies adr:;;18716 McGhee Drive East;Bonney Lake;WA;98390;US version:2.1 email;internet:jcarp@ccstrat.com title:President/General Director x-mozilla-cpt:;30928 fn:Jerry Carpenter end:vcard --------------C5FFE05370E8AD7233E47A2C--

Cliff, Here's the missing URL: http://www.mdch.state.mi.us/ Trying to coordinate too many things at the same time, I guess. Thanks for asking! George ---------- > From: Clifford L. Coy <clcoy@gdi.net> > To: The Carpenters <carpgl@ismi.net> > Subject: Re: [NYMADISO-L] Alanson CARPENTER and MI URL > Date: Sunday, April 04, 1999 4:55 PM > > IT sound fine George Carpenter but you neglected to put in the URL or the name > of the WEBSITE. Or did I miss something???? Cliff Coy > ======================= > > The Carpenters wrote: > > > Listmates, > > > > A listmate on the Carpenter list found a great website for MICHIGAN for > > finding info re: deaths prior to 110 years ago. I copied one sample below, > > as I have seen someone looking for someone with this name.

I have one of the items from the Michigan vital statistics site that I recognized as belonging to someone on the list. We corresponded about it, but I can't find my saved messages on it, so I will just share it here and hope the right person finds it: CARPENTER, ALANSON Date of death: 29-Nov-1870 Ledger Page: 58 Record Number: 686 Place of death: Almo {{most likely, "Alamo," misspelled--GC}} County of Death: Kalamazoo Sex: Male Race: White Marital Status: Married Age: 64 years Cause of Death: Accidental Injuries Birthplace: Ny Occupation: Farmer Father's Name: Last name not recorded, First name not recorded Father's Residence: Not Recorded Mother's Name: Last name not recorded, First name not recorded Mother's Residence: Not Recorded Date of record: 29-Apr-1871 George --- George R. Carpenter Pinckney, Michigan carpgl@ismi.net

Phoebe, This is a fun site. Most of my Carpenter ancestors who died by such early dates died elsewhere, but I did find good info on my Jacobsons of the U.P. (Upper Peninsula). I just put in Jacobson (and later, Carpenter), and searched the hard way. Made some connections I wouldn't have made using a standard search. I urge use of the site for all who may have relatives who died before 110 years ago in Michigan, and also it is the place to go to get certified copies of vital stats for Michigan. I had a hard time getting on until I shortened the URL: www.mdch.state.mi.us Now, where is the site like this for NY, MN, SD, etc.? I will be looking, and will share what (if anything) I find. George Carpenter ---------- > From: MzCortez@aol.com > To: CARPENTER-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: David and Julie Carpenter - try this for MI > Date: Sunday, April 04, 1999 1:52 PM > > Dear Folks, > > I just found this great web site. By putting in the surename of the father > you can find the married dau, etc. Of course you can find the individual by > putting the surename. > > The ones on this particular list I got by using Carpenter as the fa. surename. > > Phoebe > > Genealogical Death Indexing System - Michigan >

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