Will of DANIEL JAYNE, Cornwall, names dau SARAH, wife of JOHN CARPENTER in his will of 1785. Also names grandchildren RACHEL and HANNAH TUCKER. Witnesses: JONAH TOOKER, WILLIAM SHEPARD, NATHAN COOLY proved 3 March 1786. Does anyone know the parents of this JOHN CARPENTER? Phoebe

>From " Early Marraiges From Newspapers Published in Central New York" , by William M. Beauchamp Carpenter, Benjamin,of Saratoga Co. and Maria Irwin of Skaneatlas, m. at Skaneatlas, 6 Mar 1839. [SC] Carpenter, Samuel S., and Prudence C. Comins, m. Tully, 24 Feb 1831 {OR 2 Mar 1831] Carpenter, William N. of Detroit, and Amanda Gibbs of Skaneatlas, m. 26 Aug 1845 [SC] Adams, Squire, and Ruthala Carpenter, m. at Manlius, 22 Feb 1828. [SC] Moreland, William and of Auburn and Mrs. Aurelia Carpenter of Elbridge, m. at Elbridge, 8Dec 1853 [SD] Stewart, Henry Y., of Manlius and Mrs. Catherine Carpenter, m. at Onndaga Vally (1 Dec) 1819 [OR] Hope this is of help to someone. Sharon Genealogists never die they just lose their census.

Could Betsey and John had another brother Zenas? I don't have Zenas' father's name, but his mother was Charity. I sent the info for Zenas' descendants to the list earlier this week. Cheri Nolen hungypsy@erie.net

Linda, Yes, I think I may know of these folks. Sharon sent to this list on May 30 some items she found in the "Abstracts From Madison County Newspapers in the Cazenovis, NY Public Library," which is my family's county, so to speak. Here is part of it: Benson, Royal m. Thurs. 14 Nov 1811 by Elisha Whipple, Esq., to Miss Betsey Carpenter. Chappell, Henry late of Cherry Valley, Otsego Co. made public confession of defamation and slander gainst William Carpenter of DeRuyter and dau. Betsey carpenter. Signed Henry (X) Chappel at DeRuyter before Jeremiah Justus and Eli Gage. 30 Jan 1809 and several following issues. Well, it happens that my GGGgrandfather, John CARPENTER, born in 1797 in VT, spent most of his adult life in DeRuyter, a small town in Madison County. He lived to be 82. I have been trying to push him back to find his parents. When I saw this, I was so excited (still am), because if Betsey was married in 1811, she was most likely born in the 1890s, and could be a sister of my John. This would make his William (of whom I have heard nothing before) John's father. At the least, I'm betting he is an uncle of John's. I ran a search on the LDS site, and got this: IGI Record: Betsey CARPENTER Sex F Born: 14 Feb 1799 Huntington Twp, Fairfield, connecticut Parents: Father: William CARPENTER Mother: Charry Batch number: 7450313 Sheet: 0 Now, if this is the same pair, then Betsey was married at age 12 (almost 13). Possible, I suppose. Frontier women were a rarity, and as we all know, they are good looking, strong, and able. :--) Also, she may have been pregnant, which in those days might make age a moot point. Or maybe one of the dates is wrong. (Sounds like a genealogists lament, eh?) I was wondering about "Charry." There are several possibilities. The first I thought of was Charlotte. The LDS site only really thought of Charity. The rest of your information beats up on my theory. There *was* a Betsey and her father William in DeRuyter. Maybe Charry/Charlotte is a different thing. If your Wm. and Charlotte aren't mine, then at least you picked up a little something here, maybe. I'm planning a trip, probably in July, to Madison Co., NY, to search for these things, find documentation for my family there, see if the old house is still there, and, with any luck, head into VT to do the same for John's parents and siblings and others. There is a whole pack of us looking to push NY back into VT. Good searching! George --- George R. Carpenter Pinckney, Michigan carpgl@ismi.net ---------- > Does anyone know these Carpenters? > William Carpenter b. April 1, 1776, Providence, RI, d. November 15,1838 IL > m. Charlotte Holmes ( first wife Jemima b. 1800 VT) > > Thanks and Regards, Linda Cates

I have been searching for years for the parents of Lucretia Venora Carpenter. I tried the new LDS site and, much to my surprise, there she was listed with her parents. I have yet to confirm the information, but all details match. Does anyone know these Carpenters? William Carpenter b. April 1, 1776, Providence, RI, d. November 15,1838 IL m. Charlotte Holmes ( first wife Jemima b. 1800 VT) In the 1840 Census, Mrs. Charlotte Carpenter was in Bureau Co, IL daughter: Lucretia Venora Carpenter b. November 6, 1824 NY. Lucretia married Hiram White of Kentucky and resided in Muscatine, IA. Thanks and Regards, Linda Cates

-----Original Message----- From: Michael Carpenter <fisher4life@hotmail.com> > > > HI List Mike is looking for his Grand parents can any one help ? > Butrons Carpenter Grandparents were Creed and Frances Carpenter Frances was a >Willey before she married. Creeds dad we thank was Bucky Carpenter we are >unsure of his wifes name. I am not sure if this is a much help to you I will >try and get more information if I can. > Mike > > >_______________________________________________________________ >Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com >

Is there anyone out there researching Carpenters from Meigs Co. Ohio? I am trying to find information on Anna Carpenter born Aug 23, 1869 -- her father was Joseph Carpenter. This is all the information that I have a present. Does anyone have any information on the Joseph Carpenter family ancestors or descendants? Thanks for any help that you can give me!! Connie Schumaker Schumaker4@aol.com

Good Morning, I am trying to find out more information on my CARPENTER line. I have gotten the following information from the Bible of my ggggrandmother, Julia Smith Davis. I took the dates of birth, death and marriage and put the following together. Unknown Carpenter m. Charity Unknown b. ca 1739 d. 23 Jan 1836 (ae 97) Known Child: Zenas Carpenter b. 28 Jan 1772 d. 10 Jun 1852 (prob. NY) m1) 12 Mar 1798 Polly T Nichols b. 15 Sep 1775 d. 13 Sep 1809 (prob NY)(d/o Unknown Nichols and Molly Unknown b. ca 1741 d. 18 Mar 1837 (ae 96) Zenas and Polly were the parents of: 1.(M) Barzilla Carpenter b. 25 May 1800 NY d.? m. 8 Apr 1825 Betsey Fonches 2.(M) John Carpenter b. bef 26 Apr 1802 NY d. 26 Apr 1850 (ae 49) Erie Co, PA m. 30 Nov 1827 Betsey Clark 3.(F) Phebe Carpenter b. 12 Mar 1804 NY d. 21 Aug 1867 (ae64) Erie Co, PA m. 25 Feb 1846 Daniel Pomeroy b. MA 4.(F) Nancy Carpenter b. 16 Jun 1805 NY d. 11 Feb 1872 (ae 73) m. Enos Hanks 5.(M) Benjamin Carpenter b. 10 May 1807 NY d. 11 Aug 1860 (ae 53) m. 14 Feb 1833 Polly Gates 6.(M) Ira Carpenter b. 16 Jul 1809 NY d. 18 Mar 1813 (ae 4) NY Zenas Carpenter m2) 10 Jan 1810 Elizabeth Nichols b. 27 Jan 1780 d. 25 Jul 1856 (ae 77) d/o Unknown Nichols and Molly Unknown, sister of Zena's 1st wife Zenas and Elizabeth were parents of: 1.(F) Mariah Carpenter b. 27 Can 1780 NY d. ? m. Aun 183- Maison Belknap 2.(F) Polly Carpenter b. 12 Feb 1812 NY d.? 3.(F) Judith Carpenter b. 11 Jan 1813 NY d. 15 Nov 1888 (ae 75) Erie Co, PA m. 14 Oct 81-- Phineas Pomeroy b.12 Apr 1802 MA d. 25 Nov 1880 (ae 79) Erie Co, PA 4.(M) William B Carpenter b. 16 Feb 1816 NY d. Dec 1887 (ae 73) 5.(F) Charity Carpenter b. 19 Mar 1817 NY d. 18 Jun 1858 (ae 41) prob NY m. 20 Sep 1833 Leonard Smith d. about same time as Charity Elizabeth Nichols was m1) William Beeman d. 21 Jul 1809 Elizabeth and William were the parents of: 1.(F) Zairy/Zada Beeman b. 21 Feb 1804 NY d. 13 Apr 1884 prob Erie Co, PA m. 22 Aug 1826 Edwin Carpenter d. 11 Nov 1880 (unknown if he is part of Zenas' Carpenter line) Edwin and Zada were the parents of: 1.(F) Elizabeth Ann Carpenter b. 1828 d. 31 Mar 1883 (ae 55) m. James Cushing d. Mar 1904 Leonard Smith and Charity Carpenter were the parents of: 1.(M) George Smith b. 1836 NY d. Erie Co, PA 2.(F) Sarah Smith b. 1838 NY d. Erie Co, PA 3.(F) Harriet Smith b. 1840 NY d. Erie Co, PA 4.(F) Julia Ann Smith b. 1847 Angola, NY d. 1914 Erie Co, PA Leonard and Charity Smith must have died in close proximity as Julia went to live with her Aunt Phebe who m. Daniel Pomeroy. Julia was about 12 yrs old. Sisters, Sarah and Harriet, went to live with their Aunt Judith and her husband, Phineas Pomeroy. I have been unable to find out where George went. From census records, it appears that George never married. From census records and monuments at the McLane Baptist Cemetery, I found that neither Sarah nor Harriet ever married either. Anyone who may think that any of these names are familiar, please contact me. I'll be more than happy to share any information that I have. Have a Blessed Day Cheri Nolen hungypsy@erie.net

Do you find a Mary Carpenter in Madison Co in 1880 with a son, Andrew about 8 yrs of age? I am looking for Andrew Jackson Carpenter who was born in 1872. Sue >

--WebTV-Mail-78587769-13683 Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit I am sending this to the list in case anyone else can use the info. If you can add to my Carpenter's that would be great, too! http://homepages.go.com/~lin92/index.html ^O^~~ c. --WebTV-Mail-78587769-13683 Content-Disposition: Inline Content-Type: Message/RFC822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-WebTV-Signature: 1 ETAsAhRmXL9HPNUCybuiJdFHGrFdyJKQMgIULhAAyH9ubYnwJmyBazu8naTX12E= From: oomi1@webtv.net (Linda Mitchell) Date: Fri, 28 May 1999 20:57:27 -0400 (EDT) To: carpgl@ismi.net Subject: Elusive Carpenter's Message-ID: <18831-374F3B77-2161@postoffice-102.iap.bryant.webtv.net> Content-Disposition: Inline Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit MIME-Version: 1.0 (WebTV) George, I had more than I remembered but can only vouch for the names I posted. Robert Carpenter b.1763 of Belmont VA. d.Feb.1850 Monroe Cty. Seneca Tw. Ohio son of: John Carpenter b. about 1735 Hanover,Germany married abt. 1760 Of. VA Drusilla Tomlinson b. abt.1739 of. MD. Children besides Robert: 2. Joseph 20Feb.1771 b. Va d.20Feb 1849 Batesville, Noble Cty. OH 3.Thomas b.1775 4.JOHN b. abt.1761 d.1833 5. Daniel b. abt.1773 6. Anna b. abt.1775 all listed as born of., VA. Reason Carpenter( son of Robert) b. 27 July 1820 Monroe Cty. Ohio d. 1July 1895 King Knob,Ritchie Cty. WV Robert (son of Reason) b.1847 Calais, Monroe Cty. Ohio I don't have info on John b.1761 (son of John from Hanover, Germany. and brother of Robert #1) Hope some of this might help. Several of my other ancestors started from New England area and ended up in Ohio and Virginia. I don't have a copy of your message in front of me so Did you mention a James? cause I see no James listed. I do have siblings of Robert and Reason but don't think the time period would coincide with yours. Let me know if you want the rest of this Carpenter info. Linda http://homepages.go.com/~lin92/index.html ^O^~~ c. --WebTV-Mail-78587769-13683--

Sharon, I'm about to hyperventilate. I need to get to Madison County soon, or else! And I have no time to think or dig right now. But you have sent me some really interesting stuff. I suspect that these DeRuyter CARPENTERs are my folks. I also see that there is a Betsey CARPENTER, whose father is William CARPENTER (both of DeRuyter). Betsey was married in 1811, which makes her a likely sister of my John CARPENTER, b. 1797 in VT! If I can establish their siblinghood (?), then I have finally found a very important part of my family, esp. John's long-lost father. If it wouldn't be too much work, could you please look up the names of the newspapers for the following items? Carpenter, Delford d. DeRuyter 30 Aug 1843 in his 44th year Carpenter, Ezekiel d. at Cazenovia 16 Nov 1850 ae 77 yrs. Carpenter, John d. DeRuyter 15 May 1879 of heart disease ae 82-1-17. Leaves a wife 2 sons 1 dau. surviving; was father of 10 children only three living Carpenter, William d. Lincklean, Mon .in his 84th y. He was m. 3 times; last wife and 3 ch. survive. (posted on 31 Mar 1881) Webb, Samuel m. 13 Feb 1834 at Stockbridge by Rev. Mr. Adams to Miss Amanda Carpenter all of Stockbridge Benson, Royal m. Thurs. 14 Nov 1811 by Elisha Whipple, Esq. to Miss Betsey Carpenter Chappell, Henry late of Cherry Valley, Otsego Co. made public confession of defamation and slander against William Carpenter of DeRuyter and dau. Betsey Carpenter. Signed Henry (X) Chappel at DeRuyter before Jeremiah Justus and Eli Gage. 30 Jan 1809 and several following issues. Thanks for these great finds! George Carpenter

Hi List, I found this info in "Abstracts From Madison County Newspapers in the Cazenovia, NY Public Library", ed.by Mary Keysor Meyer Carpenter (infant) d. 15 Aug 1822 infant of E. Carpenter ae 3 mos. dated 22 Aug 1822 CP Carpenter, Delford d. DeRuyter 30 Aug 1843 in his 44th year Carpenter, Ezekiel d. at Cazenovia 16 Nov 1850 ae 77 yrs. Carpenter, George W. m. Catherine A. , only dau. of Martin Spear, 19Oct 1847 by Rev. E.J. Gillette all of Cazenovia Carpenter, John d. DeRuyter 15 May 1879 of heart disease ae 82-1-17. Leaves a wife 2 sons 1 dau. surviving; was father of 10 children only three living Carpenter, Joseph m. Pompey, 2 Oct 1808 by Eld. Simeon Smith to Miss Caroline Bruce Carpenter, Thomas B., m. at Pooleville by Rev. H.W. Lee 12 Mar 1851 to Miss Ordelia Hill both of Sherburne Carpenter, William d. Lincklean, Mon .in his 84th y. He was m. 3 times; last wife and 3 ch. survive. (posted on 31 Mar 1881) Webb, Samuel m. 13 Feb 1834 at Stockbridge by Rev. Mr. Adams to Miss Amanda Carpenter all of Stockbridge Benson, Royal m. Thurs. 14 Nov 1811 by Elisha Whipple, Esq. to Miss Betsey Carpenter Chappell, Henry late of Cherry Valley, Otsego Co. made public confession of defamation and slander against William Carpenter of DeRuyter and dau. Betsey Carpenter. Signed Henry (X) Chappel at DeRuyter before Jeremiah Justus and Eli Gage. 30 Jan 1809 and several following issues. Poole, Byron m. 6 Oct 1847 at the home of W. Benjamin in Eaton Village by Rev. O. Brown to Miss Delilah Carpenter both of Nelson Brown, Ebenezer his land in the town of Cazenovia mortgaged to Ezekiel Carpenter of the same place, assigned to Josiah D. Sabins to be sold at public auction a t the house of Lemuel Kingsbury. Innkeeper, in the Village of Cazenovia. posted 19 Apr 1809 Fairchild, Tench S. formerly of Cazenovia and Miss Harriett Carpenter of San Francisco, m. 12 Aug 1851 at Grass Valley, CA by Judge Smith Taylor, Frank m. 3 Jul 1880 in Delphi to Miss Jennie Carpenter, both of Pompey Hollow Elbredge, Hon. James B. of Hamilton m. 13 Feb 1825 in Albany, NY by Rev. Mr. Ferris to Sarah Carpenter of Albany Thornton, George N. of Ohio m. 31 ug 1851 at Madison by Rev. William Carpenter to Miss Rosette F. Chadwick of the latter place. Also from Vital Statistics of Chittenango, NY Newspapers 1831-1854prepared by Clara Metcalf Houck Aug 3, 1842 m. at Cazenovia on the 14th inst., by Rev. Francis Hawley, Calvin Carpenter, Esq. and Miss Marietta S. Gridley all of that village. Oct 11, 1843. m. at Morrisville on the 28th [ult.?] by the Rev. Mr. Putnam, Mr. Royal Sayles to Miss Margaret Carpenter both of Clockville, also the same day and place and by the same clergyman; Mr. Henry Herrick to Miss Caroline Forbes also of Clockville. Hope this helps somebody. I will look up the name of the newspaper on any item if wanted. Sharon Genealogists never die they just lose their census.

Hi: Does anyone relate to the following Carpenter, Davenport article. I have added notes and the bible record is followed by some records as to how I am connected. Any Help would be greatly appreciated. Glenda Brothers gbrothers@syix.com THIS IS A BIBLE RECORD FOUND IN A PERIODIACAL OF SHARP CO ARK (USED TO BE LAWRENCE CO) Submitted by Mrs. Helen Carpenter Davenport, P.O. box 10285, Springfield, Mo 65808. The folowing is a transcription of all entries in a bible handed down from Robert Carpenter, A pioneer settler of Sharp Co, Ark. Number in parentheses in right margin refer to numbered notes below.......... First Page A very large RC Second page Thomas M. CARPENTER b. 15 Jan 1831 (2) Sarajain CARPENTER b. 19 Jan 1833 (3) James Hardin CARPENTER b 6 March 1835 (4) Rodise CARPENTER b. 15 Feb 1837 (5) Edmon CARPENTER b.22 Jan 1839 (6) Marthy Jain CARPENTER b. 9 Mar 1842 (7) Mary CARPENTER b. 13 June 1844 (8) Henry CARPENTER b. 27 Oct 1846 (9) Third Page Mary Jain DEVENPORT b. 21 April 1852 (10) Stepen Robert b. Dec 9 1853 (11) James Clayto SHIRLEY b.19 March 1862 (12) James Hardin CARPENTER Left Arkansas October the 6 Went to Texas with (illegible) Childress County Childress October the 7 1870 NOTES: 1. The earliest record of Robert Carpenter found by this researcher is in the 1840 census for Henderson Co. Ten, where he appears as head of a household consistant with the above bible record. He is also listed in the 1850 census in henderson Co. with his wife Matilda and all of the children appearing on the seconc page of the bible record. Only one book of land record survived the Sivil war days in Henderson co. it contains a record where Robert Carpenter sold 250 acres of land to Edmond Gawf; withnessed John a Criner and Elias Goff. This deed is dated 8 Oct 1851 and recorded 8 Jan 1856. Adjoining property owneres wer Stephen Hefley, Jackson Petty, Daniel Mayberry, EdmonGawfs, and James Long. I believe Robert Carpenter ws running a store at the time of the 1840 census as his occupation was categorized as "trade or Manufacturing". Evidently he left Henderson County after 1851 and before 1865. By the beginning of the Civil War the entire family had settled at Maxville in Lowrence (now Sharp )Co. Ark. Where theyand many of their descendants remained. 2. Thomas M. Carpenter md Rebecca Clements by whome he had one son, Francis M. Carpenter b. July 1862. 1st Lt. Thomas M. Carpenter, 21 st ark Infantry died 19 June 1863. He had been amoung the wounded left at Corinth the preceeding winter, was captured and imprisoned at Iuka, Miss. 3. On some record Sarah appears as Sarah A. It is not known what became of her. ( Glenda's Note: see note 10 and the following 1870 census where Sarah A ROBISON is listed with Mary and Robert in Sharp Co. Ark. I think they might be one and the same don't you Faith?) 4. James Harden Carpenter with wife Eliza are listed in Sharp County, Ark. in 1870. Then removed to Childress, Texas. 5. Rodise Carpenter married James DEAVENPORT. In 1860 they were living in Ash Flat, Arkansas, and James was teaching school. At that time they had a one year old son Charles H. Deavenport. Later children were Dani Mary, and James. Rodise was widowed by 1880 6. Edmon Carpenter married Mary Debbie McCord Campbell, d/o Joseph m. McCord of Maxville. Their children were Joseph Robert, Nancy M., Isabell, James F. Horatio, Clarenda A., Filmore, and perhaps others. Most of the Carpenters in the south part of Sharp County descend from this family. 7. Martha Jane probably md. a Shirley and is the mother of John Clayton Shirley of the bible record. If so, she must have died soon after his birth as he would not otherwise have been raised by his grandparents. 8. Mary Carpenter md. a Mr. Anderson from Poukeepsie, Arkansas. After his death she mad the home with her nephew Joseph Robert in Cave City where she lived for many years known affectionately as Aunt Mary. She buried as Aunt Mary in the cemetery at Maxville beside her brother Edmond. 9. The only known record of Henry Carpenter is in this bible and the 1850 census 10. This and the following two entries are evidently grandchildren who Robert elected to enter in his bible. Other grandchildren are not entered. Mary Jane DEVENPROT May have been a daughter of Rodise (who would have been 15 years, 2 mo old at the time of birth). Otherwise, she must be the daughter of Sarah which is entirely possible.( GLENDA'S NOTE: This is what I believe) 11. As this entry is immediately following Mary Jane DEVENPORT and at the time would have been on a page with on other entries, this researcher concludes that the full name shoud be STEPEN ROBERT DEVENPORT. In any event, no record of either child has been found outside of thei bible. (GLENDA'S NOTE: With the exact same birthday also, I believe this is our Robert Stephen DAVENPORT) 12. All entries up to this point have ben in the same handwrithing, evidently that of Robert Carpenter, and in the old-fasioned style know as "round". This entry is in the beautiful Spencerian style used by both Thomas and Edmond Carpenter. James Clayton Shirley was raised by his Carpenter grandparents. *********** Lawrence Co. Ark DEBENPORT, Sarah Ann to Joseph L. Robinson 8/8/1861 book c pg 120 DAVENPORT, James C. to Rhodie CARPENTER 10/11/1857 book B p 239 1870 Sharp Co Ark Census Piney Fork Twp Sarah Roberson 36 TN Mary 18 AR I believe Mary and Robert are Davenports Robert 16 AR Tennessee 6 AR Thomas 4 AR 1880 Scott Co. Ark James Twp #61 James Terry 53 b KY Sallie 48 AR and children plus Frye, Sarah A. 48 Unknown listed as a Ward , Mary 16 AR Niece I believe these are Roberson's , Thomas 14 AR Nephew 1900 Scott Co Ark Lafayette twp 4 June 1900 36/37 Davenport, Robert S. Dec 1853 Ark, Ten, Ten with wife and children 80/81 ROBERTSON, Thomas F. April 1866 Ark Ten Ten with wife and children and... FRY, Sarah A b 1840, age 60, widow TN ? ? 1910 Scott Co Ark Lafayette Twp 26 April 1910 101 DAVENPORT, Robert S. 55 Ark Ten US wife and children 40 ROBINSON, Tom F age 44 with wife and Children 96 DEVANPORT, T.F. 30 with wife and son and.... FRY, Sarrah A (Boarder) 70 Widow 5 children b 4 living b. Tenn 99 BROTHERS , Jim 25 Nellie 22 2 children b. 1 living (Robert DAVENPORTS Daughter) E.A. 2 b. Ark (This is Ervie Arastus Brothers Moss) 12 Oct 1920 Sarah A. FRY died BURRIED Weeks Cemetery FRY, Sarah Ann Robinson, d. ca 1918 age of 100 years Row V # 59 I didn't realize I had so much that fit..I believe that Sarah A. is the Sarajain in the bible. What do you think?? ----------

Hi, Just found this website by accident. It has the DeLancey's Brigade and many others with the Microfilm No. http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/1146/loyalregiments.html Loyalist Regiment Muster Rolls 1777-1783 Ask your local Public Library or a Family History Center near you about the inter-library loans to view the following Muster Rolls. National Archives of Canada 1876 - 1882 De Lancey's Brigade 1777 - 1783 C-4220 - 4221 Volumes 1851-1908 "C" Series ________ Hope this is helpfull to some

Linda, RI-VT-NY connection, by any chance? My GGGgrandfather, John CARPENTER, b. 1797 in VT, had a son, Robert. I don't know his dob, but his brother James was b. about 1823. If every generation in your list was born to young parents, it could about barely fit. My bunch is from Madison County, NY, and John came from VT to NY. Okay, I'm tired, stressed, and desperate. What can I say? George --- George R. Carpenter Pinckney, Michigan carpgl@ismi.net ---------- > From: Linda Mitchell <oomi1@webtv.net> > To: CARPENTER-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Robert Carpenter > Date: Thursday, May 27, 1999 1:03 PM > > This is what I have : Robert Carpenter > son: Reason. His son: Robert; Robert's daughter, Nettie Irene Carpenter > b.1872, my grandmother. Is anyone else researching this line? Do you > have any info on the parents of the first Robert? > I have info on Robert (G gf) siblings. > Nettie Irene Carpenter's m. was Mary Ellen Schofield (some places have > her listed as Morris). Any info about Mary Ellen would be appreciated. > Linda M. > Sterling, VA > > http://homepages.go.com/~lin92/index.html > > ^O^~~ > c. > >

Hi George, we've talked before, I mean e-mailed. I'm the one who has Caleb as the father, etc -- look back in your old e-mails (not too long ago). Since I wrote you last things have changed again. Everytime I talk to this new distant cousin who has the Bible she changes things on me. She has had me change my John around about four times now. So who knows. When I found out a bit more I'll let you know. May be a while. Another distant cousin lives in NY and is going to do some research there. Hang in - Penny from Nebraska

English historical records of the 1200s are full of the names of murdered Carpenters (Charpenters) and Carpenters that murdered. Two important proclaimations were made that shed light on this; first, "Appointment of..........to hear the plaints of merchants of Flanders touching robberies,tolts and other injuries committed against them in the said realm and to take inquisitions and do justice thereon" (Patent Rolls, Nov. 16, 1265), and "Commission to.............appointing them to be wardens of the sea shore..........as many homicides have been commmited ..........and against merchants from beyond the seas" (Dec. 12, 1265). The names connected to these incidents are many. Here I will quote two, concerning two Williams. First, "Pardon at the insistance of Simon Passelewe, Kng's clerk, to Richer Son of Ernald de Hermingland for the death of William le Charpenter of Owelton" (Feb. 15, 1266) and second, "Pardon at the instance of William de Say, to Simon Not for the death of William le Charpenter" (May 4, 1266). Sincerely, Bruce Carpenter

http://www.familysearch.org Some times it takes a couple of tries to get thru John L. Carpenter Searching for Carpenter family decendants of William Carpenter of Providence, RI check my home pages at the following URL's http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/c/a/r/John-L-Carpenter/index.html http://expage.com/page/carpenterlinks

unsubscribe CARPENTER-D-request@rootsweb.com wrote: > Subject: > > CARPENTER-D Digest Volume 99 : Issue 105 > > Today's Topics: > #1 Albert Carpenter - Iowa [Jeanine Wichman <jwichman@mcsomaha] > #2 Fwd re: John Carpenter ["Donna Carpenter Johnson" <dcaguil] > #3 Re: Where do these Carpenters belo [Gumpysfarm@aol.com] > #4 Town Clerk's possible ancestors ["Bruce E. Carpenter" <carp@whidbey] > > Administrivia: > To unsubscribe from CARPENTER-D, send a message to > > CARPENTER-D-request@rootsweb.com > > that contains in the body of the message the command > > unsubscribe > > and no other text. No subject line is necessary, but if your software > requires one, just use unsubscribe in the subject, too. > > ______________________________ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: Albert Carpenter - Iowa > Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 09:27:49 -0500 > From: Jeanine Wichman <jwichman@mcsomaha.com> > To: CARPENTER-L@rootsweb.com > > I am looking for any connection to any of the following people. Oliver > Burris Carpenter was my grandfather. > > Descendants of Albert H. Carpenter > > Generation No. 1 > > 1. ALBERT H.2 CARPENTER (CYRIL1) was born Bet. 1824 - 1844. He married > BOGET "MAIDEN NAME"1. > > Children of ALBERT CARPENTER and BOGET NAME" are: > i. FRANK3 BOGET1, b. Abt. 1844. > ii. MYRTLE BOGET1, b. Abt. 1844. > iii. LEVI BURRIS CARPENTER1, b. Bet. 1844 - 1864. > iv. ALBERT CARPENTER, JR.1, b. Bet. 1844 - 1864. > v. FRANK CARPENTER1, b. Bet. 1844 - 1864. > vi. CLEVELAND CARPENTER1, b. Bet. 1844 - 1864. > vii. GEORGE CARPENTER1, b. Bet. 1844 - 1864. > 2. viii. ROBERT TALLEY CARPENTER, b. 1864, Montezuma, Poweshiek Co., Iowa; > d. October 1959, Milford, Dickinson Co., Iowa. > > Generation No. 2 > > 2. ROBERT TALLEY3 CARPENTER (ALBERT H.2, CYRIL1)2 was born 1864 in > Montezuma, Poweshiek Co., Iowa2, and died October 1959 in Milford, > Dickinson Co., Iowa3. He married DORA BELLE MATCHETT4 April 08, 1884 in > Montezuma, Poweshiek Co., Iowa4. > > Children of ROBERT CARPENTER and DORA MATCHETT are: > i. ADAH BELLE4 CARPENTER4, b. August 16, 1884, Audubon County, Iowa4; d. > 19664; m. TIPTON LAFOY4, 19114. > ii. OLIVER BURRIS CARPENTER5, b. September 09, 1886, Audubon, Audubon Co., > Iowa6; d. December 05, 1959, Ruthven, Palo Alto, Iowa7; m. OPAL ELNORA > PRATHER8,9, February 23, 1909, Viola Center, Audubon Co., Iowa10. > iii. BURT CLEVELAND CARPENTER11, b. February 12, 1889, Audubon County, > Iowa11; d. August 07, 1964, Spirit Lake Hospital, Dickinson Co. Iowa11; m. > NELLIE FAY TUEL11. > iv. LLOYD CARPENTER11, b. Abt. 1892, Audubon County, Iowa11; d. Abt. 1906, > Audubon County, Iowa12. > v. HARRY ROBERT CARPENTER13, b. August 12, 1894, Nance County, Nebraska13; > m. CELIA MAY BOVEE13, March 03, 1920, Home of Celia's parents, Milford, > Dickinson Co., Iowa13. > vi. CLYDE JEWEL CARPENTER13, b. March 15, 1897, Audubon County, Iowa13; d. > August 29, 1966, Spirit Lake Iowa13; m. (1) ETHEL LAMM13, aft1921; m. (2) > PAMA WATERMAN13, Abt. 1920. > vii. LEWIS WALLACE CARPENTER13, b. May 18, 1900, Audubon County, Iowa13; > d. August 08, 1981, Iowa City Hospital, Iowa14; m. VENU TUEL15. > viii. LAURA ELDORA CARPENTER15, b. 1902, Carroll County Iowa15; m. (1) > OTHELLO W. WEBBER15, July 14, 192115; m. (2) LEE ECHART15, Aft. 192215. > ix. NORINE SARAH CARPENTER15, b. September 30, 1906, Audubon County, > Iowa15; d. June 08, 1965, Spirit Lake, Iowa15; m. LEWIS L. GILMORE15, > November 12, 192515. > > Endnotes > > 1. Lucile Carpenter, Mary Lou Nielsen Matthew. > 2. Lucile Carpenter, Opal Carpenter. > 3. Lucile Carpenter, Mary Lou Nielsen Matthew. > 4. Lucile Carpenter, Opal Carpenter. > 5. Lucile Carpenter, Opal Carpenter, His son.. > 6. Lucile Carpenter, Opal Carpenter. > 7. Jeanine Carpenter Wichman, Jeanine Carpenter Wichman. > 8. Lucile Carpenter, Opal Carpenter, Biography. > 9. Lucile Carpenter, Opal Carpenter. > 10. Gene Carpenter, Their son.. > 11. Lucile Carpenter, Opal Carpenter. > 12. Lucile Carpenter, Mary Lou Nielsen Matthew. > 13. Lucile Carpenter, Opal Carpenter. > 14. Lucile Carpenter, Mary Lou Nielsen Matthew. > 15. Lucile Carpenter, Opal Carpenter. > > Jeanine Wichman > jwichman@mcsomaha.com > > ______________________________ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: Fwd re: John Carpenter > Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 12:53:12 -0700 > From: "Donna Carpenter Johnson" <dcaguila@psn.net> > To: CARPENTER-L@rootsweb.com > > Got this from the AVERY list : > ******** > Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 18:35:47 -0700 > From: Sharilyn Whitaker <sharilyn@northcoast.com> > > Dear Listers, > About 1794, Lucinda AVERY married John CARPENTER (born 6 January 1775 in > > Stafford, Tolland County, CT). I should judge that she was born around > 1776, and probably also in or near Stafford, Tolland County, CT, but she > could have been from > Huron County, Ohio. > > John and LUCINDA AVERY Carpenter had: > 1. Sarah Carpenter for which I have no birthdate > 2. Stephen Carpenter 1795 > 3. Elias Carpenter 1797 > 4. John Carpenter 1803 > 5. Polly (Probably Mary) Carpenter 1807 > 6. Reuben Carpenter 1808 > 7. Ruth Carpenter 1809 (married 1st Eggleston, 2nd Samuel Alpha > Olmstead) > > LUCINDA AVERY died before 1813, in Fairfield Township, Huron County, > Ohio. > > John Carpenter then remarried Sarah Adams, and had more children. He > died in 1859 > in Fairfield. > > Any help with Lucinda would be sincerely appreciated. > > Regards, > > Sharilyn Whitaker > > - ------------------------------ > End of AVERY-D Digest V99 Issue #53 > > ______________________________ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: Re: Where do these Carpenters belong? > Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 22:56:55 EDT > From: Gumpysfarm@aol.com > To: CARPENTER-L@rootsweb.com > > I think I asked this question before..... > I have a Bemsley Carpenter who died February 22, 1853 at age 77 years old. > His wife Olive died March 30, 1850 at 64 years old. They are buried at the > Madison Center Cemetery, Madison, Ohio. > > Also, does anyone claim Thomas Cerpenter who died 17 August, 1851 at age 25? > (He is buried at Madison Township Cemetery, Madison Ohio.) He was the > husband of Almeda Maria Genung. They had children: Alice M. Carpender who > married Charles Moak, and also a son Henry T. Carpender who married and lived > in Dubuque, Iowa. > > Anyone know where this line fits? > > I also need to find the line in which Charlts Carpenter/der fits. He was > born c. 1785 and died in 1854 in Michigan. He married Sally Lewis. > > If anyone knows where these two Carpenters "belong", please let me know. > > THANKS, > Jan Skinner > gumpysfarm@aol.com > > ______________________________ > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Subject: Town Clerk's possible ancestors > Date: Mon, 24 May 1999 21:36:39 -0700 > From: "Bruce E. Carpenter" <carp@whidbey.com> > To: CARPENTER-L@rootsweb.com > > In the library of the University of Washington is an extensive > collection of English state papers from the middle ages, consisting > of law cases and tax records. There are well over a hundred > thick blue volumes, each many hundreds of pages. There is much Carpenter > related. Today I will present a sample from three > volumes entitled CALENDAR OF THE CLOSE ROLLS, from > the late 1200s, the time prior to John Carpenter the Town > Clerk and his father Richard. My object is to find material > suggestive of their origins. A very wealthy individual discovered > was a Edward le Carpenter or Charpenter and his son Robert. > The pair are noted in many legal proceedings. Edward and Robert > are residents of Middlesex Co. a traditional residential area > for wealthy London merchants. Edward's identity as a foreign > resident is immediately sugested by the Charpenter name, > which is used in at least half the references to him. Son Robert > is cited in a law suit with "merchants of Amiens". Edwards > assets extend to holdings in London itself. In a 1289 security > for a loan, his "lands and chattels in the city of London" are > cited, as well as elsewhere his " lands and chattels in Co. Middlesex." > Witnesses to Edward's financial dealings are > seemingly very powerful individuals such as a Earl of Cornwall > in one proceeding. > > Sincerely, > Bruce E. Carpenter

There have been four of us distant cousins trying to crack this Carpenter case. Have discovered some new information, but nothing that takes us back another generation. Just wondering if any of the following looks familiar: Caleb Carpenter b 1774 RI or maybe VT m Rhoda Dyer 1795 d Arcade, Wyoming Co. NY 1819-1825 This family while in NY lived first in LeRoy and then Arcade - 1804 until 1830's. Their children were: John b VT? Dyer b 1899 VT Samuel b 1802 NY Daniel b 1808 NY Jeremiah b 1810 NY Nettie b 1812 NY Anna b 1815 NY Mary b 1817 N (then Caleb married) Mrs. Rebecca Olds from Gainesville, NY They moved to Richland Co., Ohio and then Seneca Co. OH They had three children, a couple of them probably born in NY before they left. Charles D. b 1825 NY? Amasa Green b 1828 NY? Rebecca Jane b 1831 OH Caleb died Aug. 13, 1847 in Seneca Co. OH Caleb had a brother named John and a sister Sophia. Caleb's father's name was John and also had an uncle named William. It was William and John and unknown brother who came from England. Migration pattern of this family we think is RI>VT>NY>OH. So is this another new Carpenter line? These three brothers in the family Bible state that the family was originally French (but no date or timeline given on this). Any hints, clues or help is very much appreciated. Thank you, Penny from Nebraska