Dear Richard, Yes there was an article also by Raymond George Carpenter in the C&RFHJ regarding his trip to England. Can you check your copies and see if that article is in there? Thanks! John R. Carpenter La Mesa, CA Richard Carpenter wrote: > > If you're referring to the Carpenter and Related Family Historical Journal > published by James Aussie Carpenter, I have many of the volumes. I would be glad to look up information in my spare time. > Richard L. Carpenter

Just for everyones info: There are presently 265 subscribers to Carpenter L and 102 subscribers to Carpenter D (digest mode) for a total of 367 subscribers! We lose on an average 4 subscribers per day and gain as many so it stays with roughly the same number. No, I do not have bushy eyebrows :) Ya gotta love this family :) Chuck __________________________________ Please visit my website "Chuck's Wood-Knots" at: http://www.evcom.net/~chuck2/index.html

--- densmom@webtv.net wrote: > My GrGrGrandfather, James Carpenter, born 1825 DID > have very thick > eyebrows, over clear blue eyes. Yep, Dad had very blue eyes (pale), and those eyebrows. I know physical characteristics get quite diluted through the generations, but it's still interetesting to make these light hearted comparisons! Wouldn't it be great to see a painting of an early Carpenter and see some of the same things! :) Speaking of - does anyone know if any early portraits of Carpenters exist? Especially those descending from Wm. of Rehoboth? Thanks, Mary :) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com

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My GrGrGrandfather, James Carpenter, born 1825 DID have very thick eyebrows, over clear blue eyes. But, no prominent nose. He had a curly red beard and some children & grandchildren inherited the red hair. His Mother was a GILLUM. His Great Grandfather was Jonathan Carpenter of Spotsylvania Co. VA. Jonathan's origin is not known. I would like to find some cousins. We are written up in the book "Families of Bristol and Washington County Virginia," and "Carpenter Chronicles, Special Edition #1. Betty

AGH! Our Carps have really ugly bushy ones! LOL And we can tell in a NY heartbeat, when one of our kin was upset! LOL :)))) I always called them "Herman Munster eyebrows!" LOL Betty > Do your CARPENTERs have really heavy eyebrows? >>

Looking for the Parents of James William Carpenter. 19 August 1999 James William CARPENTER b. 24 Apr 1834 England (from Death Certificate). d. 30 Jan 1909 Sutter Co., CA (from Death Certificate per Mrs. J. W. Carpenter). *1834 Aug 24 b. Isle of Sheppy, Kent Co., England. *1853 age 19 years left England and arrived in North America. *1853 –64 Worked in the Iron mines in the upper peninsula of Michigan. 1864 Became a resident of CA (from Death Certificate, a resident of CA for 44yrs). *1864 worked in the Grass Valley, Nevada Co., CA area for 5 years. 1860 Not in 1860 Census for Sutter Co. CA. 1869 Aug 14 "James William Carpenter, Native of England, resident of Slough, (Voting District) Sutter Co., CA Naturalized Sutter Co. by County Court, date of Registration 14 Aug 1869". The original naturalization records were burned in the Sutter Co. Court House in the 1870’s. Only the Naturalization Index Card and the Voting Register show this information. 1871 Apr 1 Patent Land to J. W. Carpenter purchached160 acres. 1871 Central Railroad to J. W. Carpenter purchased 80 acres. 1871 Sep 3 m. Eliza Jane Bailey "At the residence of L. P. Farmer September 3rd, by Rev. E. Kellog, Mr. James W. Carpenter to Miss Eliza J. Bailey." From: Marysville Daily Appeal, Vol XXIX No.61. L.P.Farmer was married to Eliza J. Bailey’s sister Elizabeth. 1876 Nov 22 Carpenter to O’Banion 160 acres $4100. 1876 Nov 22 Thomas to J. W. Carpenter 160 acres $10,000. 1876 Decree of Settlement of Account Lots 1 & 2 to J. W. Carpenter. 1896 Sutter County Voting Register : "James William Carpenter, Farmer, age 62 years 5 ft-7in height, light complexion, gray eyes, dark brown hair, able to read English, able to write Name, physically able to mark ballot." (Note: He signed his name on his will with an "X"). * Taken from obituary Any help or connection will be appreciated. Thank you for taking the time to read this. Deane Coats, dcoats@jps.net

In a message dated 8/18/99 11:34:14 PM Central Daylight Time, carpgl@ismi.net writes: << Okay, cousins, here's a question for you: Do your CARPENTERs have really heavy eyebrows? >> George, No bushy eyebrows in my Carpenter family!!! ;-) Where are your Carpenter's from? Mine descend from the Lancaster Co, PA Carpenters, who, in 1854 moved to Frederick Co, MD and from there to Friend, NE. Alinda

Dear Robin, Carpenter Technology has its main phone number at (610) 208-2000. They have some 3,000 people working there and they have an extensive library on technology. The library also holds company history records. They have a web page at: http://www.cartech.com/ Information contact is listed as: webmastr@cartech.com I am curious also! Let me know if you find out anything! John R. Carpenter La Mesa, CA Below is an overview of the company BUILDING ON THE PAST The company was founded on June 7, 1889, as the Carpenter Steel Company in Reading, Pa. James H. Carpenter, a construction engineer whose interest in steel production led him to the study of metallurgy, wanted to test the commercial value of improvements he conceived for the manufacture of steel. He and a small group of investors leased the old Philadelphia and Reading rail mill in Reading and, 11 weeks later, began melting the company’s first order for 3,000 tons of tool steel. One of his patented inventions ­ an air-hardening steel ­ was also used for knives, drills, and projectiles capable of piercing the armor on warships. In fact, Carpenter’s projectiles proved to be a decisive factor in the Spanish-American War, and established the company as a steel pioneer in both the United States and Europe. A Company Set Apart Over the next seven decades, the company found its niche in the area of specialty metals, and by the early 1980s was turning out more than 400 specialty grades of stainless, tool and alloy steels. As the Eighties arrived, so did changes in the U.S. economy. A severe recession lingered for years, and the U.S. steel industry was especially slow to rebound, due in part to increasing competition from foreign imports. Many steel companies faced financial losses for much of that decade. Some closed their doors, sold or downsized their steel operations and/or diversified into other areas. Carpenter, however, remained profitable and kept its sights on the future. The company remained committed then to an 8-year, $400 million capital expansion program. It also set new long-term goals, acquiring companies that were extensions of its core business - specialty metals - and selling those that no longer fit the company’s goals. Carpenter also upgraded its product mix, increasing sales to such high-end markets as the aerospace and chemical industries. By the early Nineties, the company was well positioned to take advantage of a revitalized economy in a global marketplace. As the global marketplace grew, so did competition. Customers demanded not only more sophisticated alloys and higher quality levels, but wanted them in record time. To meet these demands, Carpenter adopted a Continuous Improvement philosophy to improve processes and services; continued to modernize its manufacturing and plant operations; built facilities to house new operations; and acquired new companies that allowed the company to grow faster than a U.S. steel company would otherwise. Robin Carpenter wrote: > > A few days ago I decided to take a visit to the web site for Carpenter > Technology, which is a specialty steel producer in Reading PA. Turns out it > was founded by James Henry Carpenter in the late 1800s. Aside from a > handsome photo of old JHC, there's no further info given on who he was. > Anybody here know James Henry Carpenter? > Robin

I'm in southern Michigan. There have been Carpenters in Hillsdale County for some time. If anyone needs a cemetery lookup, I might be able to help. Beth MacD

Am fairly new to Carpenter research. Posted a query earlier and Terry and others gave me some info, but still need some documentation. Keep seeing ref. to the Carpenter Memorial. Does it include Nathan and Nelly Carpenter of Civil War Era in Carroll Co MISP and John Carpenter of DeSoto County, MISP who was killed in Civil WAr. Have Jim W. Carpenter who married Cassana Crow in 1878 and was in Tate County MISP in 1880 and they are in 1920 Titus County Tx census. Two people thought he belonged to Nathan and Nelly, but he is not on any census with them. He is connected to their son William Green, but he married Cassie's sister Mary Elizabeth so not necessarily with him because he was brother. Am interested in John Crow who died in DeSoto county and had children J.B., William Travis, and J.W. This is interesting due to the fact that a JB of the correct age is in Titus County Texas along with JW and Green. Jerry gave me the William Travis as all I had was W.T. Finally found Jim W and Cassie Crow in Titus County, Tx census in 1820 living with son Walter. Jim says both his parents born in MISP. That does not help as neither of the two possible fathers was born in MISP. Cannot find them in 1900 or 1910 Titus County census (census was in terrible condition, but soundex got most of the names), so am going to try to get Soundex for 1900 and 1910 Tate and Carroll county MISP> Hav been connected to a new relative nearby and hope to get his info soon. Any help appreciated!! Have a bunch of Carpenter pictures I would like to identify.

Now this is important information! We have both the larger noses and thick eyebrows - now I can blame the Carpenters!! Have a great day!

Dear Michiganders: Joseph R. Carpenter lived NOT in Cedar Rapids, of course; it's Grand Rapids. GRAND Rapids. That's in Michigan, right? Yeah. Sorry. Robin

Michigan Carpenters: With all the Michigan conversation here, I thought I'd try again to ask whether anyone knows of the descendants of my grand uncle Joseph Reeves Carpenter (1861-1905) and Manette (Nichols) Carpenter. He lived at 296 Crescent Avenue in Cedar Rapids and worked for Stickley Furniture when he died (in NYC) in 1905. His son was Joseph Griswold Carpenter. His daughter Manette L. Carpenter (b. 1895) married Edward Jewell in Cedar Rapids April 4, 1914. another daughter was Mary Elizabeth Carpenter. Does any of this connect with anyone? Robin

Mary in Michigan It's not clear whether you are aware of the several Alonzo entries in Carpenter Memorial? Alonzo #2864 Son of Elisha, and said to have been born Apr 14, 1824 and to have gone to Nebraska, and last known residence Iowa. Alonzo #5381, of Amherst#3169 (1799-1877), of Obadiah #1485, etc. Alonzo #8754, of Benjamin #8750,or Benjamin #1767 (b.1767, m.Sophia), of Nicholas #708. There are also entries for Alonzo G, Alonzo H, Alonzo M, and Alonzo P. Robin

Can you imagine the poor child with both! Bushy eyebrows and a huge nose? Audrey Robin Carpenter wrote: > Dear George R. > No bushy eyebrows in MY Carpenters...but several generations of quite > remarkable nose! (Even that feature all but died out in my generation, > however. Of my father's six offspring, only one inherited schozzola > majora...and even that's been somewhat diluted.) > Robin L.

The Osterlin Library located in Northwestern Michigan College in Traverse City, Michigan has a computerized online index to the Traverse City Record-Eagle (our local Northern Michigan newspaper) and its predecessors dating back to 1858. If you are fortunate to find an ancestor thru this index you can request a copy for 10 cents per page plus $3.00 postage and handling. Online information and access to Traverse City Record-Eagle Newspaper Index is available at: http://www.nmc.edu/~library/res/record-eagle.html However, you must have a telnet application installed on your computer to connect to the Record Eagle index. They recommend the freeware program Tera Term which can be downloaded directly from the Tera Term home page at: http://hp.vector.co.jp/authors/VA002416/teraterm.html After I downloaded this I did have to tweek the configuration because windows wasn't too compatible with it. So If anyone does download it and has a problem I can forward the directions I used to configure it. Another new online search tool for marriage and death records for our part of Northern Michigan was put online by the Grand Traverse County and the Traverse Area District Library which can be found at: http://www.tcnet.org/gtcounty/index.html Happy Hunting! :) Anita ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Anita (nee: Merlo) Gauld Anita_Gauld@Hotmail.Com ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Have over 30,000 individuals in my database. Willing to do quick look-ups. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Tracing surnames: Bellisario..Berardo..Blake..Bonner.. Carpenter..Chromie..Cook..Cucco..Cunningham..Dey..Eovaldi.. Galick..Gauld..Gianella..Gilmore..Gnoli..Kramy..Laman..Loomis.. Malysiak..Marek..Marlow..Merlo..Mitrovich..Monelli..Newton.. Ottolini..Overman..Pisoni..Puricelli..Small..Travato..Wright ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Family Page: http://www.GeoCities.Com/Heartland/Bluffs/1314 Reunion Page: http://www.GeoCities.Com/Heartland/Village/1315 Family Tree Maker Descendant Trees: http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/g/a/u/Anita-L-Gauld/index.html Sunshine and Shadows memoirs by Evangeline (Cook) Wright at: http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Shores/4343/ Surnames: http://www.mccserv.com/genealogy/gauld/gauld.html VITAL RECORDS Fife Lake and surrounding areas (1906-1948): http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Village/1315/vitals.html ~~~~~~~~~~~~~ QUERIES: View: http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Bluffs/1314/geobook.html ~~~~~~~~~~~~~ E-Mail: Anita_Gauld@Hotmail.Com agauld@mhc.net (Munson Medical Center)Work agauld@gtii.com (please send attachments here) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Contact me by web pager: http://wwp.mirabilis.com/23187866 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~ You can respond to this e-mail online. If you have ICQ my ICQ# is 23187866 You can download ICQ at http://www.icq.com/http://www.icq.com/emailsig.html ~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Sharing is contagious. Unless you tell me otherwise, sharing with me is assumed as permission to share with others. Much of the data I share is data others have shared with me and unverified by me personally. *grin* ~~~~~~~~~~~~~ As long as we are Remembered we Never die A life is not lost when it is known to future generations

The Osterlin Library has a computerized online index to the Traverse City Record-Eagle (our local Northern Michigan newspaper) and its predecessors dating back to 1858. If you are fortunate to find an ancestor thru this index you can request a copy for 10 cents per page plus $3.00 postage and handling. Online information and access to Traverse City Record-Eagle Newspaper Index is available at: http://www.nmc.edu/~library/res/record-eagle.html You must have a telnet application installed on your computer to connect to the Record Eagle index. They recommend the freeware program Tera Term which can be downloaded directly from the Tera Term home page at: http://hp.vector.co.jp/authors/VA002416/teraterm.html After I downloaded this I did have to tweek the configuration because windows wasn't too compatible with it. So If anyone does download it and has a problem I can forward the directions I used to configure it. Another new online search tool for marriage and death records for our part of Northern Michigan was put online by the Grand Traverse County and the Traverse Area District Library which can be found at: http://www.tcnet.org/gtcounty/index.html Remembering that someone on the list was looking for a George CARPENTER in Michigan I thought of them when I saw this: MARRIAGE RECORD: CARPENTER, GEORGE; LAWSON, HANNAH Article Date : 21-APR-1902 Publication : EVENING RECORD Sec 1 Pgs 4 Col Type of Article: COLUMN Article Length : Indexed by : MARRIAGE RECORDS CARPENTER, GEORGE LAWSON, HANNAH :) Anita ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Anita (nee: Merlo) Gauld Anita_Gauld@Hotmail.Com ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Have over 30,000 individuals in my database. Willing to do quick look-ups. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Tracing surnames: Bellisario..Berardo..Blake..Bonner.. Carpenter..Chromie..Cook..Cucco..Cunningham..Dey..Eovaldi.. Galick..Gauld..Gianella..Gilmore..Gnoli..Kramy..Laman..Loomis.. Malysiak..Marek..Marlow..Merlo..Mitrovich..Monelli..Newton.. Ottolini..Overman..Pisoni..Puricelli..Small..Travato..Wright ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Family Page: http://www.GeoCities.Com/Heartland/Bluffs/1314 Reunion Page: http://www.GeoCities.Com/Heartland/Village/1315 Family Tree Maker Descendant Trees: http://www.familytreemaker.com/users/g/a/u/Anita-L-Gauld/index.html Sunshine and Shadows memoirs by Evangeline (Cook) Wright at: http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Shores/4343/ Surnames: http://www.mccserv.com/genealogy/gauld/gauld.html VITAL RECORDS Fife Lake and surrounding areas (1906-1948): http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Village/1315/vitals.html ~~~~~~~~~~~~~ QUERIES: View: http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Bluffs/1314/geobook.html ~~~~~~~~~~~~~ E-Mail: Anita_Gauld@Hotmail.Com agauld@mhc.net (Munson Medical Center)Work agauld@gtii.com (please send attachments here) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Contact me by web pager: http://wwp.mirabilis.com/23187866 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~ You can respond to this e-mail online. If you have ICQ my ICQ# is 23187866 You can download ICQ at http://www.icq.com/http://www.icq.com/emailsig.html ~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Sharing is contagious. Unless you tell me otherwise, sharing with me is assumed as permission to share with others. Much of the data I share is data others have shared with me and unverified by me personally. *grin* ~~~~~~~~~~~~~ As long as we are Remembered we Never die A life is not lost when it is known to future generations

Dear George R. No bushy eyebrows in MY Carpenters...but several generations of quite remarkable nose! (Even that feature all but died out in my generation, however. Of my father's six offspring, only one inherited schozzola majora...and even that's been somewhat diluted.) Robin L.

Can anyone please tell me how to retrieve "mime" messages from Carpenter digest? Or any place else for that matter. My p/c won't accept them. Thanks! Sunny328@aol.com