Botetourt County Descendant Counties Dates of Formation and Lineage Where more than one county contributed to the formation of a descendant county, the parent is not necessarily shown as the one which contributed the most territory, but usually/always the one with the "nearest" link to Botetourt County. SOURCE: Atlas of County Boundary Changes in Virginia 1634-1895, Michael F. Doran, 1987, Iberian Publishing Co, 548 Cedar Creek Dr., Athens, GA 30605 Botetourt Co (1770) | |--Fincastle Co (1772) | | extinguished as a county in 1777 | | | |--Kentucky Co (1777) - now the State of Kentucky | | | extinguished as a county in 1780, | | | territory ceded by VA to Federal Govt. in 1789 | | | | | |--Fayette Co (1780) - before KY separated from VA | | | | NOT the present WV county | | | | | | | |--Bourbon Co (1786) - before KY separated from VA | | | | | | | | | |--Mason Co (1789) - before KY separated from VA | | | | NOT the present WV county | | | | | | | |--Woodford Co (1789 - before KY separated from VA | | | | | |--Jefferson Co (1780) - before KY separated from VA | | | | NOT the present WV county | | | | | | | |--Nelson Co (1785) - before KY separated from VA | | | NOT the present VA county | | | | | |--Lincoln Co (1780) - before KY separated from VA | | | | NOT the present WV county | | | | | | | |--Madison Co (1786) - before KY separated from VA | | | | NOT the present VA county | | | | | | | |--Mercer Co (1786) - before KY separated from VA | | | NOT the present WV county | | | | |--Montgomery Co (1777) | | | | | |--Wythe Co (1790) | | | | | | | |--Grayson Co (1793) | | | | | | | | | |--Carroll Co (1842) | | | | | | | |--Tazewell Co (1800) | | | | in part, with Russell County | | | | | | | |--McDowell Co (1858) | | | | | |--Giles Co (1806) | | | | in part, with Monroe and Tazewell Counties | | | | | | | |--Mercer Co (1837) - now in WV | | | | in part, with Tazewell County | | | | | | | |--Bland Co (1861) | | | in part, with Wythe and Tazewell Counties | | | | | |--Floyd Co (1831) | | | | | |--Pulaski Co (1839) | | in part, with Wythe County | | | |--Washington Co (1777) | | | | | |--Russell Co (1786) | | | | | | | |--Lee Co (1793 | | | | | | | |--Wise Co (1856) | | | | in part, wih Lee and Scott Counties | | | | | | | |--Buchanan Co (1858) | | | | in part, with Tazewell County | | | | | | | |--Dickenson Co (1880) | | | in part, with Wise and Buchanan Counties | | | | | |--Scott Co (1814) | | in part, with Lee and Russell Counties | | | |--Smyth Co (1832) | in part, with Wythe Co | |--Greenbrier Co (1778) - now in WV | | in part, with Montgomery and Augusta Counties | | | |--Kanawha Co (1789) - now in WV | | | in part, with Montgomery County | | | | | |--Cabell Co (1809) - now in WV | | | | | | | |--Wayne Co (1842) - now in WV. | | | | | |--Logan Co (1824) - now in WV | | | | in part, with Giles, Cabell and Tazewell Counties | | | | | | | |--Wyoming Co (1850) - now in WV | | | | | | | |--Mingo Co (1895) - then in WV | | | | | |--Jackson Co (1831) - now in WV | | | | in part, with Mason and Wood Counties | | | | | | | |--Wirt Co (1848) - now in WV | | | in part, with Wood County | | | | | |--Braxton Co (1836) - now in WV | | | in part, with Lewis and Nicholas Counties | | | | | |--Gilmer Co (1845) - now in WV | | | in part, with Lewis County | | | | | |--Boone Co (1847) - now in WV | | | in part, with Cabell and Logan Counties | | | | | |--Putnam Co (1848) - now in WV | | | in part, with Cabell and Mason Counties | | | | | |--Roane Co (1856) - now in WV | | | in part, with Jackson and Gilmer Counties | | | | | |--Lincoln Co (1867) - then in WV | | in part, with Boone, Cabell, and Putnam Counties | | | |--Monroe Co (1799) - now in WV | | | |--Mason Co (1804) - now in WV | | | |--Nicholas Co (1818) - now in WV | | | in part, with Kanawha and Randolph Counties | | | | | |--Clay Co (1858) - now in WV | | | in part, with Braxton County | | | | | |--Webster Co (1860) - now in WV | | in part, with Braxton and Randolph Counties | | | |--Fayette Co (1831)) - now in WV | | | in part, with Logan, Nicholas, and Kanawha Counties | | | | | |--Raleigh Co (1850) - now in WV | | | |--Summers Co (1871) - then in WV | in part, with Mercer, Monroe, Fayette, and Counties | |--Bath Co (1791) | | in part, with Augusta and Greenbrier Counties | | | |--Pocahontas Co (1821) - now in WV | in part, with Pendleton and Randolph Counties | |--Alleghany Co (1822) | in part, with Bath and Monroe Counties | |--Roanoke Co (1838) | |--Craig Co (1851) in part, with Roanoke, Giles and Monroe Counties Updated April 7, 1999 Botetourt County Descendant Counties Dates of Formation and Lineage Where more than one county contributed to the formation of a descendant county, the parent is not necessarily shown as the one which contributed the most territory, but usually/always the one with the "nearest" link to Botetourt County. SOURCE: Atlas of County Boundary Changes in Virginia 1634-1895, Michael F. Doran, 1987, Iberian Publishing Co, 548 Cedar Creek Dr., Athens, GA 30605 Botetourt Co (1770) | |--Fincastle Co (1772) | | extinguished as a county in 1777 | | | |--Kentucky Co (1777) - now the State of Kentucky | | | extinguished as a county in 1780, | | | territory ceded by VA to Federal Govt. in 1789 | | | | | |--Fayette Co (1780) - before KY separated from VA | | | | NOT the present WV county | | | | | | | |--Bourbon Co (1786) - before KY separated from VA | | | | | | | | | |--Mason Co (1789) - before KY separated from VA | | | | NOT the present WV county | | | | | | | |--Woodford Co (1789 - before KY separated from VA | | | | | |--Jefferson Co (1780) - before KY separated from VA | | | | NOT the present WV county | | | | | | | |--Nelson Co (1785) - before KY separated from VA | | | NOT the present VA county | | | | | |--Lincoln Co (1780) - before KY separated from VA | | | | NOT the present WV county | | | | | | | |--Madison Co (1786) - before KY separated from VA | | | | NOT the present VA county | | | | | | | |--Mercer Co (1786) - before KY separated from VA | | | NOT the present WV county | | | | |--Montgomery Co (1777) | | | | | |--Wythe Co (1790) | | | | | | | |--Grayson Co (1793) | | | | | | | | | |--Carroll Co (1842) | | | | | | | |--Tazewell Co (1800) | | | | in part, with Russell County | | | | | | | |--McDowell Co (1858) | | | | | |--Giles Co (1806) | | | | in part, with Monroe and Tazewell Counties | | | | | | | |--Mercer Co (1837) - now in WV | | | | in part, with Tazewell County | | | | | | | |--Bland Co (1861) | | | in part, with Wythe and Tazewell Counties | | | | | |--Floyd Co (1831) | | | | | |--Pulaski Co (1839) | | in part, with Wythe County | | | |--Washington Co (1777) | | | | | |--Russell Co (1786) | | | | | | | |--Lee Co (1793 | | | | | | | |--Wise Co (1856) | | | | in part, wih Lee and Scott Counties | | | | | | | |--Buchanan Co (1858) | | | | in part, with Tazewell County | | | | | | | |--Dickenson Co (1880) | | | in part, with Wise and Buchanan Counties | | | | | |--Scott Co (1814) | | in part, with Lee and Russell Counties | | | |--Smyth Co (1832) | in part, with Wythe Co | |--Greenbrier Co (1778) - now in WV | | in part, with Montgomery and Augusta Counties | | | |--Kanawha Co (1789) - now in WV | | | in part, with Montgomery County | | | | | |--Cabell Co (1809) - now in WV | | | | | | | |--Wayne Co (1842) - now in WV. | | | | | |--Logan Co (1824) - now in WV | | | | in part, with Giles, Cabell and Tazewell Counties | | | | | | | |--Wyoming Co (1850) - now in WV | | | | | | | |--Mingo Co (1895) - then in WV | | | | | |--Jackson Co (1831) - now in WV | | | | in part, with Mason and Wood Counties | | | | | | | |--Wirt Co (1848) - now in WV | | | in part, with Wood County | | | | | |--Braxton Co (1836) - now in WV | | | in part, with Lewis and Nicholas Counties | | | | | |--Gilmer Co (1845) - now in WV | | | in part, with Lewis County | | | | | |--Boone Co (1847) - now in WV | | | in part, with Cabell and Logan Counties | | | | | |--Putnam Co (1848) - now in WV | | | in part, with Cabell and Mason Counties | | | | | |--Roane Co (1856) - now in WV | | | in part, with Jackson and Gilmer Counties | | | | | |--Lincoln Co (1867) - then in WV | | in part, with Boone, Cabell, and Putnam Counties | | | |--Monroe Co (1799) - now in WV | | | |--Mason Co (1804) - now in WV | | | |--Nicholas Co (1818) - now in WV | | | in part, with Kanawha and Randolph Counties | | | | | |--Clay Co (1858) - now in WV | | | in part, with Braxton County | | | | | |--Webster Co (1860) - now in WV | | in part, with Braxton and Randolph Counties | | | |--Fayette Co (1831)) - now in WV | | | in part, with Logan, Nicholas, and Kanawha Counties | | | | | |--Raleigh Co (1850) - now in WV | | | |--Summers Co (1871) - then in WV | in part, with Mercer, Monroe, Fayette, and Counties | |--Bath Co (1791) | | in part, with Augusta and Greenbrier Counties | | | |--Pocahontas Co (1821) - now in WV | in part, with Pendleton and Randolph Counties | |--Alleghany Co (1822) | in part, with Bath and Monroe Counties | |--Roanoke Co (1838) | |--Craig Co (1851) in part, with Roanoke, Giles and Monroe Counties Updated April 7, 1999

<< I'm trying to find more info. regarding John Carpenter of the Hempstead L.I., NY area. He married Abigail Rhodes. These people would have lived in the mid to late 1600's. I have no dates for them. They had a daughter, Sarah Carpenter who was born around 1693 and died in 1737. She married Joshua Pettit of Newtown, Long Island. >> Herbert F. Seversmith (one of the most respected genealogists of the first half or so of the 20th century) did an extensive revision of Amos B. Carpenter's work on John3 Carpenter of Rehoboth, Mass., and Huntington, Hempstead, and Jamaica, L.I., and some of his descendants (_Colonial Families of Long Island, New York and Connecticut, _ 5 vols. [Washington, D.C., 1939-1958] 2:535-551; see also _The American Genealogist_ [TAG] 70[1995]:197n27, par. 2). John3, incidentally, was baptized in the parish of Shalbourne, Wiltshire/Berkshire, England, 8 Oct. 1626, son of William2 and Abigail (Briant [not Bennett, Searles, etc.]) Carpenter (TAG 70:194, 203). Seversmith presents evidence that John3's widow (and only known wife) Hannah was not a Hope but was the daughter of William1 Smith of Weymouth and Rehoboth, Mass., and Huntington and Jamaica, L.I. (2:549-50). The widow (and only known wife) of John4 Carpenter (b. probably Huntington, L.I. [not Conn.], ca. 1655, son of John3) was not Abigail but Mary (as named in his will), presumably the daughter of John1 Rhodes, "who in his will named his daughter wife of John Carpenter" (Seversmith, 2:536, 550). Seversmith estimates that their daughter Susannah--she is named in her father's will, which fails to mention a daughter Sarah--was born at Jamaica, L.I., about 1699 and says that she "is considered to have married Joshua Pettit of Hempstead" (2:543). << Here is a link to another web site that has some Carpenter info. _http://www.longislandgenealogy.com/carpenter/fam04307.htm_ (http://www.longislandgenealogy.com/carpenter/fam04307.htm) >> The information presented there is so confused and full of demonstrable errors that none of it should be trusted. Gene Z.

I'm trying to find more info. regarding John Carpenter of the Hempstead L.I., NY area. He married Abigail Rhodes. These people would have lived in the mid to late 1600's. I have no dates for them. They had a daughter, Sarah Carpenter who was born around 1693 and died in 1737. She married Joshua Pettit of Newtown, Long Island. Here is a link to another web site that has some Carpenter info. http://www.longislandgenealogy.com/carpenter/fam04307.htm It shows a John Carpenter marrying an Abigail Rhodes, but gives no further info. about their children. Do you have any info. on these specific Carpenters in your database? Thanks, Janet Wood RSVP Janet or Me [email protected]_ (mailto:[email protected]) or [email protected]_ (mailto:[email protected])

Hello Carpenters: Can someone here provide me a reference either for direct on-line census lookup, or someone who could do a lookup, for a Charles Keeney in Tennessee in 1810 (or any Keeney in 1800)? Robin

seeking birthplace and exact date of birth + place of death & burial of my GGF: HUGH CARPENTER who married twice in his lifetime ( circa 1825 - 1899?). 1867 - by then a widower- married Catherine BOYLAN in Ballymachugh, Co Cavan. 1869/1872 - he and Catherine had 3 children in the FINNEA ( Tullystown) area in Co Cavan/ Westmeath border.( by Lough Sheelin.) ANY HELP WITH GGF'S BIRTHPLACE MUCH APPRECIATED or help regarding his 1st wife & family? Liz Carpenter

I would like any information about the parents of Mary Smith, born about 1795, died in Mississippi about 1812, the first wife of Solomon Carpenter (1794-1839) son of Temple Carpenter, son of Thomas Owen Carpenter. Solomon m.(2) Nancy Hudnall; and m. (3) Mary Ann Elizabeth Howell. Any information about any of these wives, but especially Mary Smith, would be gratefully received. Pete Hill

John, I don't have the text of Timothy Carpenter's will, but Daniel Hoogland Carpenter, History and Genealogy of the Carpenter Family in America, says the following on p. 318: "By his will, dated December 1, 1724, he bequeaths to his son Timothy (who was also the executor) his dwelling, lands, etc., at Pawtuxet; to daughter Ethalenah Sweet, 20 shillings; daughter Elizabeth Williams, £3; daughter Hannah Arnold, £5; granddaughter Hannah Carpenter, alias Hannah Arnold, £10; grandson Philip Sweet, 30 acres of land. Inventory, £185." Gene Z.

Timothy Carpenter of Providence, RI, wrote a will in 1724, proved in 1726. Does anybody have the text of that will? I'm curious to know what it says about his grandchildren. John Chandler

Any descendants of Edward Carpenter and Sarah Paget, both born abt 1818 in Gloucester. Son George born 1843 m. Charlotte Kitchin from Dean, Oxford. and they are in the Roundhay, Chapel Allerton area, Leeds around 1870 and Barkston Ash in the 1891 census, Janette

Hi Pamela, Could the Carpenter's you mentioned be connected to the Carpenter's of Herkimer CO. NY.? Iris ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pamela Berger" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2004 2:24 AM Subject: Re: [CARPENTER] Benjamin Carpenter, Orange Co. NY > It appears there was Gordian knot of Carpenters in Orange Co. NY, and > mindboggling loops of Benjamins, Williams, and Johns everywhere in every > generation. I have yet another Benjamin Carpenter, was born 13 Sept. 1794 > in Middletown according to his 1884 death record in Wis. I had been > researching my grandfather Carpenter's antecedent, Horace Carpenter, in > Washington Co., NY.and in NH, only to discover that his family are distant > cousins to my grandmother's Carpenter antecedents in Orange Co. This fact > would have completely astonished them both and I wish they were still around > to tell. Both evidently descend from William of Rehoboth, if one accepts a > couple of probable but still unproven links. > > I believe this is the same Benjamin who is mentioned as #910 in the > Carpenter Memorial, though the birth year is given only as "about 1790" and > the birthplace is given as Walkill or Pine Swamp, NY, not Middletown. There > is a notation that he "went to Wisconsin," and the daughter Matilda and > husband Augustus Coleman who are mentioned were the names of my > great-great-great grandparents. There were also other children mentioned, > who are otherwise unknown to me. Benjamin #910 was the son of William #306, > son of Solomon #75. > > My research shows Benjamin "fought the English" (presumably in the War > of 1812), married 1st in 1815 to Jane Keene, daughter of "Capt. Keene. " > They went west about 1845 and Jane died in 1966 in Waukesha Co., Wisconsin. > Benjamin married 2nd to a Mrs. Naomi Barnes. He married 3rd at the age of > 80 (!) to M. G. McCurdy, and then at the age of almost 87 married yet a 4th > time (!!) to Helen Adamson, a woman less than half his age, which occasioned > an amusing mention in the newspaper wishing him vigorous good health and > much marital happiness. If someone else is working on these Carpenter > families I would be interested in tips on additional sources that may not be > obvious to me or any information one desires to share. Thank . --Pam > Berger > > >

It appears there was Gordian knot of Carpenters in Orange Co. NY, and mindboggling loops of Benjamins, Williams, and Johns everywhere in every generation. I have yet another Benjamin Carpenter, was born 13 Sept. 1794 in Middletown according to his 1884 death record in Wis. I had been researching my grandfather Carpenter's antecedent, Horace Carpenter, in Washington Co., NY.and in NH, only to discover that his family are distant cousins to my grandmother's Carpenter antecedents in Orange Co. This fact would have completely astonished them both and I wish they were still around to tell. Both evidently descend from William of Rehoboth, if one accepts a couple of probable but still unproven links. I believe this is the same Benjamin who is mentioned as #910 in the Carpenter Memorial, though the birth year is given only as "about 1790" and the birthplace is given as Walkill or Pine Swamp, NY, not Middletown. There is a notation that he "went to Wisconsin," and the daughter Matilda and husband Augustus Coleman who are mentioned were the names of my great-great-great grandparents. There were also other children mentioned, who are otherwise unknown to me. Benjamin #910 was the son of William #306, son of Solomon #75. My research shows Benjamin "fought the English" (presumably in the War of 1812), married 1st in 1815 to Jane Keene, daughter of "Capt. Keene. " They went west about 1845 and Jane died in 1966 in Waukesha Co., Wisconsin. Benjamin married 2nd to a Mrs. Naomi Barnes. He married 3rd at the age of 80 (!) to M. G. McCurdy, and then at the age of almost 87 married yet a 4th time (!!) to Helen Adamson, a woman less than half his age, which occasioned an amusing mention in the newspaper wishing him vigorous good health and much marital happiness. If someone else is working on these Carpenter families I would be interested in tips on additional sources that may not be obvious to me or any information one desires to share. Thank you. --Pam Berger

HOWDY : You have an Artical in the Nelson Coubty Va Hertiage Book, From 1807 to 2000 on page 155 Stateing your Interst in & Connection to the McLain Family Near Afton Va, There will be a FAMILY reunion There in Afton OCT/16/2004/ It will be Quite a few McLain Descendents there. PLEASE CONTACT ME DIRECT <[email protected]> A T & Leona

Hello Feeb: I don't know if I've noticed previously your reference to Eunice Steward/Stewart. I have info from Descendants of John Stewart (1997, by Ronald Lee Stewart, Ph.D.), pp27-28, that Eunice(3) of John(2) of John(1) was born in Goshen 7 October 1762, and died 1846 in Minisink. Stewart says she married Benjamin Carpenter 15 January 1781. This Benjamin appears to be ABC's Benjamin #301 (of John #74, of John #24). Stewart cites SIX children of Benjamin and Eunice Carpenter (two of whom are not given in ABC's Carpenter Memorial): William b.1782, Sarah b.1784, Gilbert b. c1785, Gabriel b. c1786, Benjamin Jr b.1794, Susannah b.1796. Gilbert and Gabriel are the two not cited by ABC. I realize the Stewart info is tangential to your interest, but thought you'd be interested in the secondary confirmation (and perhaps a few tidbits new to you). Robin At 01:49 PM 7/11/2004 -0400, you wrote: >In a message dated 7/7/2004 5:25:46 AM Pacific Daylight Time, >[email protected] writes: >Searching for information on Benjamin Carpenter who opened a store in Salina, >Onondaga Co., NY in 1795. > >John Carpenter Mosher, >I sure wish I had time to further explore your question, right now, but am >packing up and heading for Oregon tomorrow morning. > >My Moses Carpenter went from Orange Co. NY about the same time as your >Benjamin. Just from memory I can tell you that a Benjamin Carpenter >witnessed one >of the deeds that Moses had back in Orange co. NY prior to his move to >Onondaga >Co. Those deeds have been posted on the Orange co genweb site and I am sure >you can find them either by finding that site or thru Googling. > >Additionally a John Carpenter who was married to an Abigail Cory moved to >Onondaga Co about the same time. He died shortly thereafter and his widow >married Hezikiah Woodruff. >There are also listed deeds for Moses and John on the Onondaga Co website. > >The AB Carpenter book lists John Carpenter and Ruth Coe as the parents of >Moses and John. This book also lists a brother, Benjamin, and I have >(unvalidated) data that he married a Eunice Stewart and lived in Minisink >(Or. Co.) in >1804. Furthermore, John Carpenter, the brother, also had a son, Benjamin who >lived in Onondaga Co. and married Charlotte Bartlett Alden. (I believe these >Bartletts may have been from Franklin Co., MA). > >It is confusing as we know that some Carpenters appparently, directly from MA >also came down into that area of NY about the same time. > >You might find my Moses Carpenter's will also without much trouble on one of >the boards, as it is under either the Carpenter or Onondaga Co. forum site. >It lists a Joanna Fay as a granddaughter, therefore we have even more >confusion/duplication of surenames. > >Phoebe in CA

HELLO MARLENE CARPENTER: You have an Artical on Page 155 in the Nelson County Hertiage Book<1807to 2000, About Your Connection to the McLain Family in Nelson County Va. PLEASE E-MAIL <[email protected]> There is a Reunion in Afton that I belive YOU would be interested in . THANKS. PLEASE REPLY. A T & Leona

Any ideas on where, which state? Also I have Jennie Fearon Carpenter b ca 1845 if anyone is looking for her, probably Long Island, NY. Phyllis Reed

Searching for parents of Melissa Carpenter, born about 1829, married James Sartin, had son, Martin VanBuren Sartin, born 1867.

In a message dated 7/7/2004 5:25:46 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: Searching for information on Benjamin Carpenter who opened a store in Salina, Onondaga Co., NY in 1795. John Carpenter Mosher, I sure wish I had time to further explore your question, right now, but am packing up and heading for Oregon tomorrow morning. My Moses Carpenter went from Orange Co. NY about the same time as your Benjamin. Just from memory I can tell you that a Benjamin Carpenter witnessed one of the deeds that Moses had back in Orange co. NY prior to his move to Onondaga Co. Those deeds have been posted on the Orange co genweb site and I am sure you can find them either by finding that site or thru Googling. Additionally a John Carpenter who was married to an Abigail Cory moved to Onondaga Co about the same time. He died shortly thereafter and his widow married Hezikiah Woodruff. There are also listed deeds for Moses and John on the Onondaga Co website. The AB Carpenter book lists John Carpenter and Ruth Coe as the parents of Moses and John. This book also lists a brother, Benjamin, and I have (unvalidated) data that he married a Eunice Stewart and lived in Minisink (Or. Co.) in 1804. Furthermore, John Carpenter, the brother, also had a son, Benjamin who lived in Onondaga Co. and married Charlotte Bartlett Alden. (I believe these Bartletts may have been from Franklin Co., MA). It is confusing as we know that some Carpenters appparently, directly from MA also came down into that area of NY about the same time. You might find my Moses Carpenter's will also without much trouble on one of the boards, as it is under either the Carpenter or Onondaga Co. forum site. It lists a Joanna Fay as a granddaughter, therefore we have even more confusion/duplication of surenames. Phoebe in CA

Hi All, I thought this might be of interest to some. I am in the process of writing "My Memories" of my family so that future generations will know something about them. Barb X-Message: #4 Date: Thu, 08 Jul 2004 20:14:35 -0700 From: Jeff Scism <[email protected]> Subject: documenting yourself This is a letter I wrote to genealogists for teh changing of the millenium, although four and a half years have past, I think it still applies. The Case for Documenting Yourself From Rootsweb Review, 1999 THE COMING DAY OF GENEALOGY by Jeff Scism Knowing where we are from is the first step on the road to where we will be. The search for personal history and its relationship to our personal lives makes history come alive. The lesson of genealogy isn't simply a knowledge of what happened in the past, but also what we know about our present. Now and in the future the history documented and saved for future reference will be the known events of our contemporary past. Our views from the end of the 20th century will be classical perspective at the end of the 21st century. To put the concept in perspective, think about your family research and the documentation you find about your 19th century ancestors. How does that information impact on the data you are saving about the lives of the members of your current family? To research the past and store that information for easy future retrieval will be the legacy of today's genealogist/historian. A greater legacy will be the way we store information about ourselves. Making the research of our family's past a priority now but failing to document our own involvement in current history is shortchanging the future. Think about your ancestors of the year 1900, or 1800, or any year in the past. How many of us can say we "know" these ancestors? How many of us have "living" documents of these ancestors? Wills, marriage certificates, and short newspaper notes are a poor "story" of a life spent. How many diary and journal writers were there in our collective past? What was our ancestor's view of events of his/her day? Knowing the regional history of an ancestor, and "milestone" events, can give an indication of where and why, but to have the story in his or her own words is a priceless insight into the person's life. Now, how many of us have an ancestor's actual autobiography written in his or her own hand? Right now you are a family historian studying the lives of all who came before you. Are you documenting your own life in a "hard" form for the genealogists of the future, so that in the year 2100 your great-great-grandchildren will be able to say they know you? Documenting your life the way you would want your ancestors to be documented is the first step to being the person your descendants will know from the past, and a journal of your thoughts on current events will be a marker and a reference valuable to many, not just your descendants. -- What I would like to add after retrospect is that fewer people are writing ON paper. As many of us know, the electronic documents we work with everyday can vanish in an instant, and be forever lost. BACK UP your data, all of it onto a CD, (or multiple copies) and store it away from your computer, your Home, and in a safe place where it will still be known to be if something tragic happens, and by all means mention it in your will. I know you would hate to see your life's work callusly deleted, after your death because whoever inherits your computer has no genealogical interest, or willingness to preserve what is in there. Remember your working notes tell an important story, your FINISHED sections should be clearly findable and PRINTED OUT. WORST CASE: if your computer takes a dump, you can always scan documents and hopefully OCR the text back into a computer editable form. Hook your safety belts, and take the ride, but make sure that the work survives to be passed on to the next one who will continue it. ~~ Jeffery G. Scism. IBSSG Genealogy is the art convincing public officials that you need to have a document to determine IF you are a descendant, and if you had Proof of descendancy, you wouldn't NEED the document.

Searching for information on Benjamin Carpenter who opened a store in Salina, Onondaga Co., NY in 1795. I am hoping that he may be the father of Henry (Harry?) Carpenter, b. ca 1795 in New York. 1810 NY Census shows a Benjamin in Manlius, Onondaga Co., NY 1830 NY Census shows a Henry / Harry in Salina, Onondaga Co., NY (parts of Salina were split off from Manlius in 1809) What I believe we know on Henry is: Married: ca 1820 in Salina, NY, Roxanna Fay, b. 07/03/1797, d. 12/07/1876, dau. of Jonathan Fay & Rhoda White. Children: Charlotte; Marion b. ca 1822; Jerome b. 09/16/1824 in NY; Thaddeus b. ca 1829; Wallace Fay b, ca 1832; Henry Jr. b. ca 1835; Byron Fay & Augusta M. b. 09/23/1837 in Illinois. Jerome says he grew up in Syracuse and Salina, New York but moved in 1837 to Illinois with his mother and family. We believe Henry (Harry?) was either gone or deceased at about that time. I am descendant from Augusta M. Carpenter who married Henry Augustus Adams in Sandwich, Illinois. John Carpenter Mosher -- [email protected]

In a message dated 7/7/2004 2:00:29 AM Pacific Standard Time, [email protected] writes: Hello Carpenters: One Carpenter out there was good enough to offer me the James Ausie Carpenter CD. I have received the disk, and am beginning to go through it...but I am embarrassed to not remember which of you kind souls ordered it for me (and can't find the original email from you). If you're the one, please email me so I can keep your searches in mind as I plow on. Robin