Hi Jean, I really have no idea where they lived when Sabrina was born, but do have information that says that her brother, James was b. 1803 in Glouster County, Va. I don't know how true that is. I hope we can find where the first James came from in Ireland since I can't research back farther til I do. Good Hunting, Ellen ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jean S." <cyberjean@att.net> To: <CARNEY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2001 7:07 PM Subject: Re: [CARNEY-L] JAMES ALEXANDER CARNEY > Ellen, > I am not very closely related. Lula is wife of 2d cousin twice removed. > I have her husband's this way: Theodore, James A.,IV, James A. III, James > A. II. > My line is my mother backward: Violet Goodson Nicol, Ethel L. Strange, > Mary S. McMillen, Sabrina Carney, James A. II. Sabrina and James A. III > were siblings. > I hope this is correct. Would be interested in exchanging more info. > Do you know where in Tennessee the family lived when Sabrina was born? > Please acknowledge getting this. I seem to be having problems when I send > this way. I get an acknowledgement that has been sent and the, To Address > is: CARNEY-L @rootsweb.com > Jean S. WA state > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Ellen Carney <Wicket@peoplepc.com> > To: <CARNEY-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2001 3:58 PM > Subject: Re: [CARNEY-L] JAMES ALEXANDER CARNEY > > > > Hi Jean, > > I have the information from Lulu Carney as she was my husband's > paternal > > grandmother. Are you closely related to her, if so how? > > > > Ellen > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Jean S." <cyberjean@att.net> > > To: <CARNEY-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2001 11:55 AM > > Subject: [CARNEY-L] JAMES ALEXANDER CARNEY > > > > > > > Posted on: CARNEY Queries > > > Reply Here: > > http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/surnames/c/a/CARNEY/queries/60 > > > > > > Surname: CARNEY, MCMILLEN, MCFADDEN, STRANGE, GOODSON, and others > > > ------------------------- > > > > > > Ellen, I will resend this here. > > > The history written by Lula Carnay,(Sarah Louise Charlton)born 21 March > > > 1909, married to Theodore Carney, born 14 November 1885 to James > Alexander > > > Carney IV and his first wife Amelia Ann Rudicil. > > > > > > James 1st, came from Ireland with his Irish wife. His first child, James > > > 2d, born aboard ship, family settled in Pennsylvania, where James 1st, > > > became a large land owner. His first son grew up and married a full > blood > > > french woman,and his father set him up on his own farm, which failed, as > > > James 2d was a gambler and man of leisure. His father set him up again > > > and again, each time failed, his mother wanted James 1st, his father, to > > > set him up for the fourth time, and was refused, saying he wanted to > have > > > enough for his other children. (I do not know names of other children). > > > > > > James 2d, packed up his family and moved west, Lula says to Missouri, I > > > am not certain about this, as his daughter Sabrina was born in > Tennessee, > > > supposedly. Sabrina married first to John McFadden and second to Robert > > > McMillen. Sabrina's siblings were Amanda, James A.3d, Samuel, Isaac, > Mary, > > > John. > > > > > > James Alexander Carney 3d, was married first to Isabell Freemyre and > > second > > > to Lydia Hilbert. > > > > > > James 4th was married first to Amelia Ann Rudicil and second to Anna > > Pultz. > > > This James was a Baptist minister. > > > He was the first to brak with tradition of naming his first son, James > > > Alexander and named him Theodore. Theodore traveled much and ended up in > > > Caldwell, Idaho. There is more info, but nothing to further our history. > > > I am still trying to prove Sabrina was born in Tennessee. > > > > > > This is long for the board. Some of the Carney's are in the family book > > > " Boltz/Puls/Pulse/Pults/Pultz Family of America, through Johann Michael > > > Boltz", by Paul and Bea Boltz and Caroly Gerard. (I also have Boltz > > ancestors) > > > > > > Jean S. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== CARNEY Mailing List ==== > > > Visit the Brickmason's Sons web site for Carney family members in Bay > City > > and Detroit, Michigan. http://www.billcarney.com/brickmasons/ > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== CARNEY Mailing List ==== > > Visit the Brickmason's Sons web site for Carney family members in Bay City > and Detroit, Michigan. http://www.billcarney.com/brickmasons/ > > > > > ==== CARNEY Mailing List ==== > Visit the Brickmason's Sons web site for Carney family members in Bay City and Detroit, Michigan. http://www.billcarney.com/brickmasons/ > >