I'm sorry to post this e-mail to this list but uncertain what to do. I'm looking for Ken Carney from Vandergrift, Pa. I sent him a snail mail but it was returned to me. Ken could be related to me. Lona lona@pdq.net >

Please make note of my new e-mail address. Following is information about my CARNEY ancestry which can be found on my home page under the report titled "User Home Page Genealogy Report: Ancestors of Susan Elaine 'Sue' CEARLOCK". Joshua CARNEY, listed below, was reportedly a Union soldier, possibly from Macon Co., MO, who settled in Christian Co., IL, after the Civil War. To date I have been unsuccessful in finding any information about his military record. He is possibly buried in a small graveyard in the woods on my great-uncle's farm near Pana, Christian Co., IL. Of note is that many people from this area of Illinois were southern sympathizers with relatives still living in the South at the time of the Civil War. Gen. 7: #72 CARNEY (b. NY), #73 [female] (b. NC), and their 1 known son. Gen. 6: #36 Joshua CARNEY (b. 1826, OH or PA), #37 Matilda NIGH (b. 1828, IN), and their 6 children. Gen. 5: #18 Jacob Stover CARNEY (b. 1864, Macon Co., MO), #19 Susan Oletha "Susie" CLOE (b. 1867, Pana, Christian Co., IL), and their 4 children. Gen. 4: #8 Claude Abner CEARLOCK (b. 1892, Hanson, Fayette Co., IL), #9 Audria Cleo CARNEY (b. 1889, Pana Township, Christian Co., IL), and their 6 children. New e-mail address: STilleman@satx.rr.com Home page: http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/t/i/l/Susan-E-Tilleman/index.html?Welcome=987210882 Sue Tilleman

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I received this from another mailing list. This is from Pittsburgh, Pa. Lona lona@pdq.net PITTSBURGH SUN-TELEGRAPH 8/14/1945 > CARNEY- Suddenly on Sunday, Aug., 12, William (formerly of Homestead) of > 1327 Wood St., Wilkinsburg, beloved husband of Rose Ellen Crouse Carney, > father of Regina, Rosemanry, Pfc. De Sales and the late Corp. William Daniel > Carney; brother of Thomas and Daniel Carney. Friends received at the Nied > Funeral Home, corner of Rebecca and Swissvale Aves., Wilkinsburg. Requiem > high mass at St. James' R. C. Church, Thursday, Aug., 16, at 10:00 a.m.

hi, what caught my eye is New York City......have my grandmother, Marion Carney DeRoche (Roach, Roache) and her 2 sisters, Stella and Rose Carney from St. Johns (or thereabouts) Newfoundland into the United States between 1910 and 1920...Marion ended up in Spring Valley, N. Y., Rose and Stella stayed in New York City (Brooklyn)...either Rose or Stella married and had a daughter Laura. Marion had 4 children, Ruby (as she was called), Raymond, Rita (my mom), and Richard. Marion was married to William (Bill) Roache, Roche) but changed her name to DeRoche. William went back to Newfoundland alone. (Marion and her 2 sisters' mother's maiden name was Tobin (Sara Tobin) from Newfoundland and of course before that, originally came from Ireland. Do any of these names mean anything to anybody??? Thanks, Joan jmkdunde@warwick.net ----- Original Message ----- From: <Atkinlynn@aol.com> To: <CARNEY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, April 06, 2001 3:13 PM Subject: Re: [CARNEY-L] Jay Simon Carney Not mine -- mine all NY City. But anything you want looked up in the NY/NJ area I would be glad to do for you (or any of the Carneys out there). ==== CARNEY Mailing List ==== Visit the Brickmason's Sons web site for Carney family members in Bay City and Detroit, Michigan. http://www.billcarney.com/brickmasons/

Ok, everyone's going to hate me now!! Not five minutes after my previous posting I got the ok to post to the lists!! I've been swamped with requests since my posting, so here are the articles. ENJOY!!! Kymm http://hometown.aol.com/kymmdenise/genealogy.html Both articles can be found in The Huntsville Times Life Pages F1 and F5 on Sunday April 8, 2001. Both written by Megan N. Walde. Along with the articles are 3 photos and a map of the Madison area of Madison County, Alabama. Seeing as how I can't give you those due to Rootsweb's rules, I will try to get them on my website by the end of the day. Article one: The quick and the dead Historians hasten to preserve granite legacies in old cemeteries on paper and film By Megan N. Walde Times Staff Writer MADISON - An industrial clanging echoes along County Line Road. John RANKIN grabs his faded blue duffle bag, and Percy KEEL shoulders a homemade poker from the back of a hulking, go-anywhere van. The men head directly to the heart of this emerald-moss-lined wood. They know it is here, somewhere - a stone grave marker for a Civil War soldier named William WARD. A work crew near the site the day before had hit some granite and thought it might be part of an old cemetery. A worker had called a researcher to the public library. She had called RANKIN, on of the foremost cemetery historians in this area. RANKIN had called KEEL, a fellow historian, and within days the two were off on another search. So many old cemeteries are found this way - too many, according to RANKIN and other history buffs. As Madison continues to grow, abandoned graveyards are discovered amid the symbols of progress, such as video stores and subdivisions. As bulldozers clear more land for townhomes, restaurants and gas stations, developers and residents in Madison - and other cities - are literally stumbling over these crumbling links to the past. That's where RANKIN, a retired engineer, and KEEL, a longtime mail carrier, come in. The two are trying to preserve Madison's past on paper and film before it's gone. They make regular visits to known abandoned cemeteries in and around the city to monitor the conditions of stones and graves, photographing each stone and making digital copies. They add each one to a database at www.virtualcemetery.org. "They're going to disappear someday no matter what you do," RANKIN says of cemeteries. "This is the only thing we can do to make sure people can always view them." RANKIN's interest in cemeteries grew out of genealogical work. As he searched for friends' ancestors and his own, he came across burial information. When possible, he found the graves and photographed them. He enjoyed the work, but he spent many afternoons in the local library trying to match his finds with the historical records of an area he didn't know much about. The Gooch Cemetery On a brisk, gray day in January, Richard BROWN awaits a quick haircut from his sister, who works at the Big Tease hair salon on Hughes Road. BROWN walks his dog around the back of the salon and follows him into an isolated grove of trees on a slight hill. For what may be the third time in a dozen years, the GOOCH Cemetery is "discovered." Mary Anne HAMM knew the gravestones were there. One marks the grave of her great-grandfather Nathaniel Matson GOOCH, son of early Madison landowner Roland GOOCH. Land records show Roland GOOCH bought 160 acres on Feb. 2, 1818, the same day legendary settler John CARTWRIGHT bought his first Madison parcel. February 1818 was the first time the U.S. government allowed settlers to buy land belonging to the Indians, although many settlers had been faming and living on the land long before that. HAMM also knows the GOOCH Cemetery used to look different. She and her husband used to visit and clean the graves in the '70s. "It was 10 times bigger then," HAMM says. Today the cemetery is surrounded by houses, stores and banks. There are seven marked graves in all, including other GOOCHES and a DUBLIN. At least 15 more are marked by small fieldstones and the rectangular depressions RANKIN and KEEL know to look for. One grave seems out of place. A marker for 7-year-old Katie S. STEWART sits next to those of Nathaniel Matson and his wife, Susan. RANKIN and KEEL puzzled for years over how Katie figured into the GOOCH family's history. The answer came from HAMM, who heard stories about the GOOCHES in "the old days" from her grandmother. "I would crawl up in her lap, and she would show me pictures and all tat of my family way back," HAMM says. HAMM remembered Katie's story. Katie was born deformed with a growth in her head. When her parents gave her up, the GOOCHES took her in. "There are so many parts to these stories," RANKIN says, "it's like putting a puzzle together." On the west side of town, behind a storage center on Balch Road, there's another cemetery mystery. Beneath a blanket of dead winter leaves, mounds of slave made clay brick cover the graves of members of many old Madison families - GRAY, BLACKBURN, BURNS, MAXWELL, SANDERSON, and WOOD, among others. The GRAY Cemetery is also the resting place of at least two and maybe three Revolutionary War soldiers. The two soldiers known to be buried there are James TRIBBLE and William GRAY. RANKIN and library archivist Ranee PRUITT want to find the grave of the third soldier, Moses BAILEY. "It's more than just the history," says PRUITT, a member of the Daughters of the Revolution. "It's the place, the history of our community. You can tell a lot about someone by their tombstone. 'Corp'l. WM. WARD, Co. H' Sometimes, the puzzle pieces fall into place, like last week when RANKIN got a call that construction workers had found what might be a Civil War burial ground off County Line Road near the airport. Some county maps note a cemetery at that location; others don't. But as soon as RANKIN and KEEL get to the site, they know. All the tell-tale signs of an old cemetery are there. Sunken rectangles. Moss everywhere. Yucca plants. Tall, slender cedar trees. As the two men walk the site, they notice another clue. The area is the highest around, sloping gently toward a swampy creek leading to the Tennessee River. Then they find it. William WARD's headstone leans precariously toward a tree trunk, the bottom half well-covered by dirt and moss. RANKIN drops the blue duffle bag within arm's reach, drops to knees and prepares the stone for cleaning and photographing. Using a drywall sponge, he lightly scrubs surface dirt from the stone and blows the dust away. His fingers reverently trace the letters on the stone as he reads it, then he fishes out a piece of blue chalk from a plastic baggie to highlight the text. "Corp'l WM. WARD, Co. H. 15th U.S.C.T." If what RANKIN suggests about the site is true, he believes it should be a major historical attraction. He points to two letters on the WARD headstone - C.T. According to his military records WARD was a corporal in Company H, a "colored troop" in the Union Army's 15th Regiment. RANKIN is fascinated. "How did he get here? Why was he buried so far from home? Why is his the only grave marked with a stone? Who put it there, the military or his family? Was this a black cemetery?" He counts the other graves and points out the rigidly straight rows, 11 in all, each with 11 graves. To one side of the cemetery is a leaf-covered, man-made trench. "Did they cut this as protection during a battle, something to sort of hide behind?" RANKIN wonders aloud. KEEL, meanwhile, is trudging among the trees, stepping hard to find hidden stones. He occasionally pokes beneath the earth with the sharp metal end of his homemade poker. He finds half of another stone, but it's a good foot or more below the surface and too far to dig out. RANKIN and KEEL think WARD's marker is the only one left in what might have been a cemetery for black soldiers. Typically, the original markers would have been wooden crosses replaced later by family members. The construction workers who found the cemetery are putting in a communication tower. That likely won't disturb the cemetery, RANKIN says. But even if development doesn't destroy or encroach upon abandoned cemetery sites, nature will do its best. When trees fall, they can shatter gravestones. The roots of trees can create a sunken bowl that envelops and eventually buries graves and stones. Time and weather erase parts of names and dates, making it critical that stones are identified as soon as they are found. That's what RANKIN and KEEL do last before they leave the WARD stone. They will add the photographs, a site description and WARD's background to the collection they've amassed since 1998. RANKIN would like to see all of Madison's abandoned cemeteries donated to the city, fenced and maintained. Only one is now. It is the DILLARD-BIBB Cemetery, which sits off Sullivan Street inside Governors Estates. The subdivision was built around the cemetery because it was once thought to the burial place for the ancestors of Alabama's first two governors, brothers William and Thomas BIBB. "People need to be more aware, or we're going to lose this whole historical part of our existence as we build more shopping centers," PRUITT says. RANKIN encourages people to record their own family gravesites or those in their area with a simple point-and-shoot camera and upload the images to a genealogical web site. He also has found another way residents can help prevent the disappearance of old cemeteries. Five or more people - they don't have to be descendants of anyone buried in the cemetery - can petition the county clerk to take the cemetery out of private property. The clerk then assesses the cemetery property, and if those people can come up with that dollar amount, the cemetery is theirs to maintain in the public domain. "Really all you can do is delay the inevitable," RANKIN says, "but what it comes down to is who cares." Article Two: Old cemeteries often emerge from the mists of history when development moves in By Megan N. WALDE In fast-growing Madison, surveyors and utility workers are often the first to discover old burial grounds as they prepare land for development. State law says they can't simply bulldoze the site once a cemetery is identified. It's a misdemeanor in Alabama to move or deface tombstones or graves. But sometimes the identification comes too late. "Where (the cemeteries are) poorly marked or partially washed away, they can sometimes be dug up before you realize you're in them," said Whitey BRESSETTE, Madison Water & Wastewater Board general manager. Utility workers often run water and sewer lines across otherwise vacant land, to encourage development in those areas. In the process, they sometimes run across whole tombstones, granite chunks or contents of graves themselves. "All the operators know to stop at the first sign of a grave," BRESSETTE said. "What we're doing is the best we can to be as aware as we can." While city workers were building a pipeline for the Keene Water Treatment Plant on Gillespie Road two and a half years ago, they found a cemetery. "When we recognized what it was, we simply redid the easements, built a fence and went around it," BRESSETTE said. Phillip WILBANKS, president of the Tennessee Valley Professional Land Surveyors Association, has come across 10 to 12 cemeteries in his 30-year career. He tries to find a deed for each one. "Sometimes there's not a deed to it," WILBANKS said. "It's just sitting in the middle of nowhere." Then it's up to the developer to leave the cemetery alone or to follow strict state guidelines for moving it. The developer must file a public notice in a local newspaper for two months, alerting residents that he wants to move the graves. He has to make a "reasonable attempt" to locate and notify descendants of those buried in the cemetery. Finally, he has to follow Health Department guidelines for removal of human remains, and those remains must be reburied and marked in another cemetery.

Posting to all my lists my apologies if you get this more than once. As some of you may already know, there were two articles in Sunday's Huntsville Times concerning the disappearnce of cemeteries. I searched the Times website and it is not there. I have contacted the writer asking permission to post to the lists but as of yet have recieved no response. I have them transcribed and ready to go and if anyone would like to read them I will send them to you privately. Names found in the two articles include: RANKIN, KEEL, WARD, GOOCH, BROWN, HAMM, CARTWRIGHT, DUBLIN, STEWART, GRAY, BLACKBURN, BURNS, MAXWELL, SANDERSON, WOOD, TRIBBLE, PRUITT, BAILEY, DILLARD, BIBB, BRESSETTE, and WILBANKS. Again, my apologies if you get multiple copies of this message, just didn't want to miss anyone. Happy Monday, Kymm in Huntsville

Not mine -- mine all NY City. But anything you want looked up in the NY/NJ area I would be glad to do for you (or any of the Carneys out there).

Posted on: CARNEY Queries Reply Here: http://genconnect.rootsweb.com/gc/surnames/c/a/CARNEY/queries/10048 Surname: Carney, Green ------------------------- Anybody got a spare Carney? My husband's great grandfather was Jay Simon Carney. All I have on him is that he died May 31,1933 in Sherwood Texas. He married Sarah Estianic Green August 30, 1893 in Boise City, OK. I have no idea where he came from. But must have at least been through Oklahoma in the late 1800's and born approximatly 1860-1870. Any help would be appreciated as I live in the boonies without much access to a library and Oklahoma is extremely hard to find information about. Thanks, Cyndye Batchelor

how can I change my e-mail address to: glcarney@yahoo.com ? thanks ----------------------------------------------------- Click here for Free Video!! http://www.gohip.com/freevideo/ ----- Original Message ----- From: <CARNEY-D-request@rootsweb.com> To: <CARNEY-D@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, April 02, 2001 4:00 AM Subject: CARNEY-D Digest V01 #31

Hi everyone, this is my first posting. My name is Sheryl Reardon and I live in Oz. I have been researching my family for a few years and have found more brick walls than there is in a prison block. Anyway here are my interests: CARNEY, James b.c 1770 Roscommon CARNEY, Hugh b.c 1792 Kilbegnet, Roscommon >1821 NSW, Australia (convict 1821 14Yrs) CARNEY, Martin b.c 1818 Roscommon >1828 NSW, Australia (ass.migration) (C)REGAN, Anthony b.c 1780 (C)REGAN, Mary b.c 1803 Roscommon >1828 NSW, Australia (ass.migration) STAPLETON, Jane b.c 1800 Ireland COSTELLO, Jean (Jane) b.c 1825 Ireland >before 1842 NSW, Australia Any information or advice taken happily, Sheryl Reardon Toowoomba, Queensland, Australia. iroquala@one.net.au

: My Carney is Elizabeth CARNEY who married Elihu CROFUT SHERWOOD in the late 1830s and moved to Bibb CO GA and remained there. : Elihu died there in 1885. : I believe Elizabeth preceded him in death, but have no documented proof other than being missing from the census for 1880. : Can any one help me find her family in CT before 1835? : They probably lived in Fairfield County. Jennifer Sherwood Braswell jensgen@integrity.com Unannounced forwards, and attachments will be automatically deleted to avoid unwelcome intruders.

Several Carney's listed. http://www.wvtreasury.com/Search.php

I am sorry to say that I can not be helpful to whoever posted the Mary Elizabeth Carney query, no matter where or how she died. I had no idea that the people who posted queries on this list would be bashed for their grammatical errors. I assumed this was a helpful group. We can note that one's knowledge of syntax and punctuation does not make them morally superior. This is not posted in attempt to start a debate, only to remind us why we are here. Happy St. Patrick's Day. Theresa

Some people mangle syntax; other people mangle punctuation.

In a message dated 3/16/01 7:58:21 PM Pacific Standard Time, beaverleagoldens2@msn.com writes: << Mary died as a result of a fire July 2, 1931 in Glens Falls Hospital. Any information on Mary's family would be appreciated. >> uh , Beverley , ?? , did she die from a fire at the hospital , Or die at the Hospital from a fire ?? , This sentence is a classic case of mangled syntax , Phil

Posted on: CARNEY Queries Reply Here: http://genconnect.rootsweb.com/gc/surnames/c/a/CARNEY/queries/10047 Surname: Carney, Lapoint, Oddy ------------------------- Mary Elizabeth Carney, born May 16, 1856 somewhere in Ireland. Married Frank LaPoint circa 1876 of Hudson Falls, New York. Mary died as a result of a fire July 2, 1931 in Glens Falls Hospital. Any information on Mary's family would be appreciated.

Jean S. here, from Washington state. 9 miles from epicenter. All is well at my house, I thank the lord, and the dry winter we have had is a blessing in disguise, had the earth been wet as is usual for here this time of year, we are certain to have had more damage. Thanks to all who have inquired. Jean S. ----- Original Message ----- From: <KymmDenise@aol.com> To: <CARNEY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2001 2:04 PM Subject: [CARNEY-L] Non-genealogy--Earthquake > Posting to all my lists: Just wanted to let everyone know that my thoughts > are with all of you who currently live or have loved ones living in the > Pacific Northwest today. Some of my family and friends are there and so > far everyone checks in unharmed with little to no damage. Hoping and wishing > the same for you all!! > > Kymm in Huntsville, AL > > > ==== CARNEY Mailing List ==== > Visit the Brickmason's Sons web site for Carney family members in Bay City and Detroit, Michigan. http://www.billcarney.com/brickmasons/ > >

Posting to all my lists: Just wanted to let everyone know that my thoughts are with all of you who currently live or have loved ones living in the Pacific Northwest today. Some of my family and friends are there and so far everyone checks in unharmed with little to no damage. Hoping and wishing the same for you all!! Kymm in Huntsville, AL

any info on carney's in Indiana, co. Pa. Buffington twp.. have info on Franklin, Emerson, Samuel (civil war vet, james, John.Born in1680, appears he came from Ireland, any info greatly appreciated. thanks ----------------------------------------------------- Click here for Free Video!! http://www.gohip.com/freevideo/ ----- Original Message ----- From: <CARNEY-D-request@rootsweb.com> To: <CARNEY-D@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, February 25, 2001 2:59 PM Subject: CARNEY-D Digest V01 #26