Greetings: Is anyone especially familiar with the cluster of CARNEY families in PHILADELPHIA ca: 1860? From several John Carneys in the 1860 census, trying to figure which one... ...marries Bridget Mellen and in Philadelphia have JOHN, JR. c. 1864, Mary Ann c. 1868, Margaret c. 1870; then to Lowell, Massachusetts for BERNARD in 1872 and PATRICK ca. 1873. JOHN, JR. m. Ellen Doherty and has Alice (1897) and a gone-missing Hugh Carney (1898), who might die in Wingdale, Dutchess County, New York, or NYC. BERNARD has 6 children, including a surviving Margaret, Joseph and Jennie, and moves to Methuen, MA. Joseph probably dies November, 1977. Margaret Carney, born February 1874, marries William Quigley, and they have Paul (4), William (2) and Frances (1 mo) by the 1920 census. PATRICK remains a mystery. Thanks, Bill namesleuth@aol.com

Well, since you asked... :-) Apparently there is a record of a marriage at St Martin chuch, Birmingham, Warwick, England dated 28 Jan 1845 between Patrick Carney and "Catharine Doley" (Catherine Dooley). I've had people look at the LDS microfilm and tell me what it says, but none of the three saw the same thing in the faded films. I don't want to write what they saw, as it might prejudice you when you saw it. This may be the marriage of our ancestor Patrick and Catherine Carney, and would explain why his first few kids were born in England. "Our" Patrick would have been 18/19 at the time, and Catherine keeps lying about her age all through her life. Must be a family gene, as my mother was 29 for over two decades. ;-) Anyhow, if you manage to make it to B'ham and have a few moments and can see the original source documents, I'd appreciate a quick transcription. I'd go myself, you see, but my wife prefers the warmer climate, like Barbados... > -----Original Message----- > From: PMHudak@aol.com [mailto:PMHudak@aol.com] > Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2001 9:13 AM > To: CARNEY-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [CARNEY-L] Michael Carney of Bay City, Michigan > > > Hi Bill -- > > Hope all is well with you! I'm planning a trip to England and > Scotland in > October, and was wondering if you had any ideas on research > places I may be > able to visit, e.g., in Birmingham? Maybe get some info that > will be useful > to both of us ... > > Take care! > Pat > > > ==== CARNEY Mailing List ==== > Visit the Brickmason's Sons web site for Carney family members in > Bay City and Detroit, Michigan. http://www.billcarney.com/brickmasons/ > >

Who is this message meant for (Re: Huntones in Canandaigua) and why is it on the Carney rootsweb? Didn't see any mention of a Carney in it.

I don't know quite how to respond, but I just found your message regarding the Huntones in Canandaigua, New York. I have used this website a couple years ago, and found no information. I was surprised to say the least when I stumbled over the messages this weekend. I have recently started my quest again because my younger brother is interested now. It is quite disheartening to see how small our family is. Very little information at all, there is little or no information earlier than the greatgrandparents. Let me introduce myself, my name is Beth Huntone. I am the daughter of Albert(Pat or Patty when he was young) Brisbee Huntone Jr. I am the eldest of two children, my brother Patrick is seven years younger than me. He has a daughter that is eight years old now, Ashley Marie. I never meant my grandfather, Albert Sr. But my father did know about your family, I believe he had mentioned two girls in the second marriage. My father passed away when I was 19, from a heart attack. The men in the family seem afflicted with bad hearts and often suffer heart attacks in their 40's and 50's, the women too have trouble with heart conditions. I am not sure if you are looking for current relatives or just family history. Alice Lostow has been able to tell me a little about the family, she is in her 90's now and lives in the Clifton Springs area. She is certain that the Huntone name was not changed. She claims we have French/Canadian Indian ancestry, my greatgrandfather being Mohawk. I also have Tuscaurora on my father's maternal side. I have been involved with some volunteer activities over the years in the local Indian community, and know from the pics Alice has, of her father and brothers, that we are Indian. I know of the Dempsey grandmother also, and have an older cousin, Ray, that has followed that line in researching the family line. An interesting tidbit from Alice: The name Brisbee came from a lady that helped the family when they lived in the Bristol/Naples area. My greatgrandfather and mother were so thankful that they used her name. I talked to my mother about this, and it seems fitting for the ! time. There were many wealthy ladies that had charities or causes that they belonged to and worked for. Our theory is that this kind lady offered help to the family, probably because they were poor and/or Native American. I don't know much more than that, but would like the time later to research more thoroughly. I would be interested in talking to you, seeing as how you are my half-aunt by relation. :O) Beth

Hi Bill -- Hope all is well with you! I'm planning a trip to England and Scotland in October, and was wondering if you had any ideas on research places I may be able to visit, e.g., in Birmingham? Maybe get some info that will be useful to both of us ... Take care! Pat

In a message dated 7/7/01 8:35:38 PM Pacific Daylight Time, jklane@uswest.net writes: << Phil my name is John Lane and this is a shot in the dark , My GGGrandfather was Michael Carney from Ireland, He Migrated to Ontario Canada his wife was >> hi John , Must be a differant Michael , Maybe somebody out there knows about him , good searching , Phil

Phil my name is John Lane and this is a shot in the dark , My GGGrandfather was Michael Carney from Ireland, He Migrated to Ontario Canada his wife was Ellen M Burke their children were Thomas born in 1848 , John Edward who is my GGrandfather born 27 Jan, 1852, in Ontario , Michael born in 1856 , Joseph born 1858, Francis born 1860, and Anne Mariah born in 1861 , Out of all these relatives I only have information on John Edward, all of the others its like they just fell off the world. I have got to go now have a good day John Lane -----Original Message----- From: Ps60yo@aol.com <Ps60yo@aol.com> To: CARNEY-L@rootsweb.com <CARNEY-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Friday, July 06, 2001 8:05 PM Subject: [CARNEY-L] Michael and Bridgit ; Ross Co Ohio > hi group , I am wondering if any one on the list is connected to Michael >Carney , born Ireland , c 1812 , Shown on page 425 B in the 1860 census >Ross Co > I think he is the father of my Thomas , Phil > > >==== CARNEY Mailing List ==== >Visit the Brickmason's Sons web site for Carney family members in Bay City and Detroit, Michigan. http://www.billcarney.com/brickmasons/ > >

As far as I know, I'm not a relation to Katherine Carney from Emporium PA.

hi group , I am wondering if any one on the list is connected to Michael Carney , born Ireland , c 1812 , Shown on page 425 B in the 1860 census Ross Co I think he is the father of my Thomas , Phil

Hi, Joanne. I have a list of 6 children of Stephen, Sr., too; probably from the same source: Stephen, Barnabus, Thomas, Nellie, Elizabeth and Rachel with no documentation. I would be very interested in any old land records you have for Stephen, Sr. In order for Nellie and my Eleanor to be one and the same, Nellie would have to be born no later than 1787, and that's stretching it. 1770 to 1780 might be more like it. I have him in Mamakating, NY in 1790 and in Wallkill, NY in 1800. During one of his stints in the Revolutionary War(1780) he was posted at Mamakating. Are any of your land records from the 1760s or the 1770s? I would love to know what town or towns he lived in during that period in order to pinpoint what church records to examine. You can contact me directly at: smithcommunique@home.com. Jim Smith

I found the death certificate for Charles Carney: Charles Carney born 31 Jan 1921 Occupation: Sawyer (worked in a saw mill) Birthplace: Adair County, Kentucky Father: Stanley Carney (Born: Adair Co, KY) Mother: unreadable maybe--(Grace Row?? Ross??) (Born: Edmonton, KY) Informant: Stanley Carney, Edmonton, KY Date of Death: 17 Dec 1938 (1) lung absesses (2) Broncial pneumonia (3) Emphysema I have a copy if anyone wants it. Tonya Carney Archey

Carol, I am looking for parents/siblings of John Valentine Carney, b. 1833 Ohio. According to later census info he says his father was born in NY. John Valentine Carney married in Shelby County, IN and stayed there until moving to MO. Could he be related to Stephen? Carol O. -----Original Message----- From: Carol Flanagan <cflanagn@ruralnet.org> To: CARNEY-L@rootsweb.com <CARNEY-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Thursday, July 05, 2001 7:57 PM Subject: Re: [CARNEY-L] Re: Stephen Carney's(b. circa 1733 Ireland) children >Hello,I have some information on the Carney's: >John Carney,aged 25 enlisted April 16,1761,b.Ireland,butcher,5ft.4 >inches.fair ,black hair and eyes. >New York Report of Vol.2-P-621 >Stephen Carney,Vol.1-Page 870 >Stephen Carney.25 farmer5'71/2" Volunteer,Capt. Sulls Militia Co. Enlisted >april 17,1755.Roll of Captain John Peter Smiths (Orange Co) Co. in New York >troop under command of James Delencey (1758,Vol.1 Pg.870 > >Stephen Carney dob: 1733;Ireland >spouse name: unknown--1752 Ulster,NY >Children: >Stephen Carney >dob: july 7,1774 Oraaange Co.New York--married Leah Terwillinger >Barney Carney >dob:Abt.1776 (Ulster co.New York) >Thomas Carney >dob:1778 (Ulster Co. New York) >Nellie Carney >dob: 1780 (Ulster Co.New York) >Elizabeth Carney >dob: 1782 (Ulster Co.New York) >Rachael Carney >dpb: 1784 (Ulster Co.New York) > >Stephen Carney died Aug. 14,1848 Walker,Rush Co.In. > >Have more information if you need itMy late husband's mother was a >Carney,her father was John Carney of Wetzel Co.WV >Carol > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: <jburd913@aol.com> >To: <CARNEY-L@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2001 5:27 PM >Subject: [CARNEY-L] Re: Stephen Carney's(b. circa 1733 Ireland) children > > >> >> Sorry to be so long answering your query. Actually, the only date I have >for children of Stephen Sr. would be for Stephen Jr, b. 1774. Actually, I >don't know that they were father and son. Please let me know if you have >anything listing children for Sr. I have only a list written by one of the >Indiana branch -- no documentation at all. This person says there were >three sons and three dgtrs. I'm happy to share what I have (altho that >isn't much) on Sr. He was in Ulster Co NY in 1758 militia rolls, b in 1733 >in Ireland. Also have land and census records, but nothing on children, >etc. >> >> >> ==== CARNEY Mailing List ==== >> Visit the Brickmason's Sons web site for Carney family members in Bay City >and Detroit, Michigan. http://www.billcarney.com/brickmasons/ > > >==== CARNEY Mailing List ==== >Visit the Brickmason's Sons web site for Carney family members in Bay City and Detroit, Michigan. http://www.billcarney.com/brickmasons/ > >

Hello,I have some information on the Carney's: John Carney,aged 25 enlisted April 16,1761,b.Ireland,butcher,5ft.4 inches.fair ,black hair and eyes. New York Report of Vol.2-P-621 Stephen Carney,Vol.1-Page 870 Stephen Carney.25 farmer5'71/2" Volunteer,Capt. Sulls Militia Co. Enlisted april 17,1755.Roll of Captain John Peter Smiths (Orange Co) Co. in New York troop under command of James Delencey (1758,Vol.1 Pg.870 Stephen Carney dob: 1733;Ireland spouse name: unknown--1752 Ulster,NY Children: Stephen Carney dob: july 7,1774 Oraaange Co.New York--married Leah Terwillinger Barney Carney dob:Abt.1776 (Ulster co.New York) Thomas Carney dob:1778 (Ulster Co. New York) Nellie Carney dob: 1780 (Ulster Co.New York) Elizabeth Carney dob: 1782 (Ulster Co.New York) Rachael Carney dpb: 1784 (Ulster Co.New York) Stephen Carney died Aug. 14,1848 Walker,Rush Co.In. Have more information if you need itMy late husband's mother was a Carney,her father was John Carney of Wetzel Co.WV Carol ----- Original Message ----- From: <jburd913@aol.com> To: <CARNEY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, July 05, 2001 5:27 PM Subject: [CARNEY-L] Re: Stephen Carney's(b. circa 1733 Ireland) children > > Sorry to be so long answering your query. Actually, the only date I have for children of Stephen Sr. would be for Stephen Jr, b. 1774. Actually, I don't know that they were father and son. Please let me know if you have anything listing children for Sr. I have only a list written by one of the Indiana branch -- no documentation at all. This person says there were three sons and three dgtrs. I'm happy to share what I have (altho that isn't much) on Sr. He was in Ulster Co NY in 1758 militia rolls, b in 1733 in Ireland. Also have land and census records, but nothing on children, etc. > > > ==== CARNEY Mailing List ==== > Visit the Brickmason's Sons web site for Carney family members in Bay City and Detroit, Michigan. http://www.billcarney.com/brickmasons/

Sorry to be so long answering your query. Actually, the only date I have for children of Stephen Sr. would be for Stephen Jr, b. 1774. Actually, I don't know that they were father and son. Please let me know if you have anything listing children for Sr. I have only a list written by one of the Indiana branch -- no documentation at all. This person says there were three sons and three dgtrs. I'm happy to share what I have (altho that isn't much) on Sr. He was in Ulster Co NY in 1758 militia rolls, b in 1733 in Ireland. Also have land and census records, but nothing on children, etc.

I am looking for any information on my gggrandmother Katherine Carney probably born around 1840. She married a Cleary, my gggrandfather. They came from Ireland and settled in Emporium, PA . My ggrandfather Charles Cleary lived in Cincinnati, Ohio and married Katherine Halpin. Linda Krug

Kathy, my gggrandmother was Katherine Carney and she married a Cleary. Her son Charles Cleary had 2 daughters , Ann Mary who married my grandfather Walter Buchert. Ann Mary died and then my grandmother {ANN Mary's sister} married Walter. I have more information and would like to know what you may have. Linda R. Krug

Seeking anyone who has done research on - Michael Carney, born abt 1834 , died April 6, 1883 in Bay City, Michigan USA. married to Mary (Carney) (died between 1914 and 1920 in Bay City). Sons James (born abt 1861 in England) and John (born abt 1864 in England, according to the 1880 census) Michael's occupation was a brickmason, as was my ancestor who lived in Bay City at the same time, Patrick J. Carney. Michael's entry in the Michigan death index says that his parents were named Rodger and Margaret Carney. My records from Patrick's death and other third-party sources note that his father was "Rudolph", but his marriage entry in Birmingham, England states that his father's name was Rodger. Patrick moved from Birmingham to Detroit, Mich between 1855 and 1860, and to Bay City by 1867. It appears Michael emigrated post 1864, if the 1880 Census is to be believed. Michael's obituary in the Bay City papers is a one-liner stating that he passed away. Patrick's was a large obit, but no mention of other family members other than his wife and kids. I'm trying to determine if Michael and Patrick were brothers (or cousins?).

I found the following web sites about the Rock of Cashel: http://www.historic.irishcastles.com/rockofcashel.htm http://www.cashel-palace.ie/rock.html http://www.tipp.ie/cashelsi.htm http://www.all-ireland.com/travel/attractions/r/rock-of-cashel.shtml I don't believe it has anything to do with the Kearney Castle. If my memory serves me correctly, the invitations my father got from the Carney Castle, (spelled Carney), showed a complete castle, not the small tower of what's left of the Kearney Castle. I do believe the invitations were for a Carney reunion week and I don't remember anything which led you to believe you would be staying in a Kearney Castle Hotel. (I'm probably wrong, as I was only about 16 at the time and I've slept since then.) I'll email this Kearney Castle Hotel and see if they ever mailed any such invitations or hosted a Carney Reunion Week. I'll let you know what I come up with. More later....Tonya >===== Original Message From CARNEY-L@rootsweb.com ===== >Hi, > I'm interested in the Kearney castle you found. Do you know what the >Rock of Cashel is? Is it part of the original castle I wonder? > >Ellen Carney >----- Original Message ----- >From: <tonya.archey@wku.edu> >To: <CARNEY-L@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Sunday, July 01, 2001 9:19 AM >Subject: [CARNEY-L] Re: Where's the Carney Castle in Ireland?? > > >> >> Thanks Bill for the info on the Castle. I did a search and came up with >this site: >> >> http://www.tipp.ie/kearneys.htm >> >> I'm not sure if it's the same Castle or not (it must be). I'm sure >someone in our family kept one of the invitations. I'll have to search in >mom's vault (huge box in the top of her closet). She doesn't throw ANYTHING >away. It could take years to find it. >> >> >> ==== CARNEY Mailing List ==== >> Visit the Brickmason's Sons web site for Carney family members in Bay City >and Detroit, Michigan. http://www.billcarney.com/brickmasons/ >> >> > > >==== CARNEY Mailing List ==== >Visit the Brickmason's Sons web site for Carney family members in Bay City and Detroit, Michigan. http://www.billcarney.com/brickmasons/ Tonya Archey <Tonya.Archey@wku.edu> Manager - Open Student Computer Laboratories Western Kentucky University Academic Technology

Thanks I'm looking forward to what you find out. Ellen ----- Original Message ----- From: tonya.archey <tonya.archey@wku.edu> To: <CARNEY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, July 01, 2001 5:09 PM Subject: RE: [CARNEY-L] Re: Where's the Carney Castle in Ireland?? > I found the following web sites about the Rock of Cashel: > > http://www.historic.irishcastles.com/rockofcashel.htm > > http://www.cashel-palace.ie/rock.html > > http://www.tipp.ie/cashelsi.htm > > http://www.all-ireland.com/travel/attractions/r/rock-of-cashel.shtml > > I don't believe it has anything to do with the Kearney Castle. If my memory > serves me correctly, the invitations my father got from the Carney Castle, > (spelled Carney), showed a complete castle, not the small tower of what's left > of the Kearney Castle. I do believe the invitations were for a Carney reunion > week and I don't remember anything which led you to believe you would be > staying in a Kearney Castle Hotel. (I'm probably wrong, as I was only about > 16 at the time and I've slept since then.) I'll email this Kearney Castle > Hotel and see if they ever mailed any such invitations or hosted a Carney > Reunion Week. I'll let you know what I come up with. More later....Tonya > > > > > > >===== Original Message From CARNEY-L@rootsweb.com ===== > >Hi, > > I'm interested in the Kearney castle you found. Do you know what the > >Rock of Cashel is? Is it part of the original castle I wonder? > > > >Ellen Carney > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: <tonya.archey@wku.edu> > >To: <CARNEY-L@rootsweb.com> > >Sent: Sunday, July 01, 2001 9:19 AM > >Subject: [CARNEY-L] Re: Where's the Carney Castle in Ireland?? > > > > > >> > >> Thanks Bill for the info on the Castle. I did a search and came up with > >this site: > >> > >> http://www.tipp.ie/kearneys.htm > >> > >> I'm not sure if it's the same Castle or not (it must be). I'm sure > >someone in our family kept one of the invitations. I'll have to search in > >mom's vault (huge box in the top of her closet). She doesn't throw ANYTHING > >away. It could take years to find it. > >> > >> > >> ==== CARNEY Mailing List ==== > >> Visit the Brickmason's Sons web site for Carney family members in Bay City > >and Detroit, Michigan. http://www.billcarney.com/brickmasons/ > >> > >> > > > > > >==== CARNEY Mailing List ==== > >Visit the Brickmason's Sons web site for Carney family members in Bay City > and Detroit, Michigan. http://www.billcarney.com/brickmasons/ > > Tonya Archey <Tonya.Archey@wku.edu> > Manager - Open Student Computer Laboratories > Western Kentucky University > Academic Technology > > > ==== CARNEY Mailing List ==== > Visit the Brickmason's Sons web site for Carney family members in Bay City and Detroit, Michigan. http://www.billcarney.com/brickmasons/ > >

Hi, I'm interested in the Kearney castle you found. Do you know what the Rock of Cashel is? Is it part of the original castle I wonder? Ellen Carney ----- Original Message ----- From: <tonya.archey@wku.edu> To: <CARNEY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, July 01, 2001 9:19 AM Subject: [CARNEY-L] Re: Where's the Carney Castle in Ireland?? > > Thanks Bill for the info on the Castle. I did a search and came up with this site: > > http://www.tipp.ie/kearneys.htm > > I'm not sure if it's the same Castle or not (it must be). I'm sure someone in our family kept one of the invitations. I'll have to search in mom's vault (huge box in the top of her closet). She doesn't throw ANYTHING away. It could take years to find it. > > > ==== CARNEY Mailing List ==== > Visit the Brickmason's Sons web site for Carney family members in Bay City and Detroit, Michigan. http://www.billcarney.com/brickmasons/ > >