Hi Teresa: He wasn't too young at all in those days. He was probably 13 in 1861 when the shooting started and probably 17 by 1865 at the end. Could've been a drummer or flag-bearer or any number of things even at the age of 13. Your family legends are like ours. I heard one about a distant uncle being blown up in one of the many explosions at Captain Hazzard's gunpowder mill in Enfield, CT. Haven't yet found any information on any forebear who even remotely seems to fit the bill. Great stories, though. That's probably the reason I heard it repeated. Happy hunting! Bob

This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------AB1C151024AC54BE847A4F36 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit We appear to have a James Carney in our family. He enlisted in the Mass Infantry in Boston in May of 1861 when he was 20 years old. I have copies of his enlistemnt records through August 1863. They indicate England as his birthplace. According to the records, he was injured at Winchester on May 15, 1862 and was either sick or wounded and hospitalized in May/June of 1863. Our sparse family tree later shows John A. Carney and Hannah Hurley as parents to several children, the first born being a James Carney born June 8, 1895, but lists him as deceased October 26, 1896. Probably no relation at all, but thought it was worth a note. Good luck, Eileen Carney Richards --------------AB1C151024AC54BE847A4F36 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; charset=us-ascii; name="vcard.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: Card for Eileen Richards Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="vcard.vcf" begin: vcard fn: Eileen Richards n: Richards;Eileen email;internet: eileencr@mindspring.com x-mozilla-cpt: ;0 x-mozilla-html: FALSE version: 2.1 end: vcard --------------AB1C151024AC54BE847A4F36--

Bob, Thanks for answering. I only know that my GGF injured his hand working in a mill somewhere in Massachusetts. Since he was born in 1848, he was probably too young to fight in the Civil War even if he was Stateside by then. Teresa Carney Greenlee

Hi Teresa- Probably no connection that I can make. To the best of our knowledge, James Carney was the comeover- possibly a famine refugee and Civl War vet. My grandfather was Frank (1995-1961), grandson of James. We know so little about the first Carneys in this country it is hard to say where the connections might lead. We have them in Mount Vernon and Albany NY, Enfield and Windsor Locks CT. Lord knows where else. I don't think we have all the names of the first generation yanks or even know if all the children of James were born here. We're probably cousins within the last twenty generations but then, most people probably are. Happy hunting! Bob Carney, Springfield MA

I am looking for an obit for Elizabeth L. Carney who died in Bradford, PA December 12 or 23, 1957. Will pay for copying and postage. Thank you, Barbara

As I am a Volunteer I realize that this is an Obit Volunteer NIGHTMARE ! My Grandmother was born in Chicago, IL 25Jan1903 to Pearl Fred Carney & Mary Bell Meyers CARNEY. The ONLY info I have on him is that he was born IN Evansville, IN,....... Married in St Joe, MI............ died in Boonville/Evansville, IN. the ONLY date I have is My Grandmothers birth. (Irene Francis Carney) I know it's a stretch.....but....... PLLLEEEEEEEAAAASSSSEEEEE teri

Bob, Kittie was looking for Theodore Carney. I'm looking for relatives of Michael Carney from Ireland. He lived in Massachusetts, Vermont, Illinois, Minnesota, and Iowa that I know of. Well, he may never have lived in Vermont but my GGM was born there. They lived in Blackhawk County, IA when my GF Frank was born. Does any of this sound like anyone on your branch of the Carney tree? Teresa Carney Greenlee TLGREENLEE@AOL.COM

Dave, This is kind of a Catch 22 situation. I don't know which message it was because the message didn't come through. Thanks anyway, Teresa Carney Greenlee

----- Original Message ----- From: Joan Keefer <jmkdunde@warwick.net> To: <CARNEY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, June 12, 1999 7:07 PM Subject: [CARNEY-L] Carney, Kearney, Karney > My great grandmother's name was Sara Tobin and greatgrandfather's name > was Michael Carney (Kearney, Karney). We understand that Michael owed > a hotel in the Newfoundland area and died quite young. Sara, we > understand, remarried. Michael and Sara had a daughter Marion who > married William (Bill) Roache (Roche, Roch) back around 1890 + -. > They were all from and around Newfoundland, St. Johns, Top Sail area. > Marion and Bill had children. One named Fredericka later known as > Ruby. The other children were Raymond, Rita, and Richard. (There was > another child born who died we think right after birth). Marion and > her children came to the U.S.A. around 1918 +- and settled in Spring > Valley, New York, U.S.A. Bill did not come. He died at age 45. > Marion had 2 sisters, we understand, named Stella and Rose. They came > also to the U.S.A and settled in the New York City area. One of them > had a daughter Laura. Anyone know anyone here? Thanks, Joan > jmkdunde@warwick.net > >

I am looking for an obit for Frank Carney b. 08/03/92; d. 06/69 in Havertown, Delaware Co., PA. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Barb

Teresa, Which message did you want resent? Dave Kearney ----- Original Message ----- From: <TLGREENLEE@aol.com> To: <CARNEY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, January 29, 2000 10:14 AM Subject: Re: [CARNEY-L] Carney/Kearney in Cass Co., IN > NO MESSAGE CAME THROUGH, PLEASE SEND IT AGAIN. > > TERESA CARNEY GREENLEE > TLGREENLEE@AOL.COM > >

Hi Teresa: I think that I have somehow become entangled in someone else's converdation about possible common ancestors. I have messages from you and from a Dave Carney that involve missed communications and a Theodore Carney. Take a look to see if an incorrect screen name is entered somewhere. Best of luck tracking down Theodore. Bob Carney, Springfield MA

Hi Teresa: We haven no Theodore that I know of but there is plenty I don't know. Bob Carney, Springfield MA

NO MESSAGE CAME THROUGH, PLEASE SEND IT AGAIN. TERESA CARNEY GREENLEE TLGREENLEE@AOL.COM

Kittie, Can you give me a time frame for Theodore Carney? I have found a distant cousin online and she is looking for more information about her side of the Carney family. I can check with her, too, to see if she has heard of Theodore. Teresa Carney Greenlee TLGREENLEE@AOL.COM

Hi. My Carney ancestors come from Indiana too. I have not been able to trace my Carney line further back than the 1880's, so I am trying to find information about them before 1880. My grandfather, Pearl CARNEY (yes, Pearl!) was born in approximately 1880 somewhere in Indiana. He hated the name, Pearl, so he often went by the name of Peter Carney. He married Grace Louise Jack in approximately 1900. Pearl Carney and Grace Jack had six children: Lucille, Theodore, Alvin, Patty, Roger, and Lawrence. My father is Alvin. He was born in Ft. Wayne in 1905, but there is no record of his birth supposedly because of court house fire in Ft. Wayne. The family relocated in Los Angeles, CA, in approximately 1920. Do any of these names sound familiar to you? ----- Original Message ----- From: <GinToney@aol.com> To: <CARNEY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2000 2:06 PM Subject: [CARNEY-L] Carney in Indiana, early 1820's or 1830's > My Carney ancestor went to Indiana sometime late 1820's or 1830. Stephen > Carney married Leah Terwilliger 27 June 1794 in Hopewell Pres. Church at > Thompson Ridge, NY. (Orange County) They are mentioned in the "History of > Cass County, IN" by Thomas Helm as well as the "History of Rush County, IN" . > They are buried in Manilla Cemetery, Walker Township, Rush County. Is > anyone researching this line? > Ginny Toney > Houston, TX >

Did all of you see the petition that was circulated to get the Irish >govt >> to >> > release more records to the public? If not, here is the site: >> > >> > FYI >> > If any of you are interested in helping out, go here to sign a petition >> for >> > Ireland to release their records for public access on the internet. Send >> > this to other researchers. Must be signed before February 1, 2000 >> > >> > http://world.std.com/~ahern/petition.htm >> > >> > or >> > >> > <A HREF="http://world.std.com/~ahern/petition.htm">Council of>> > IrishGenealogical Organisations (CI.</A>Go here to sign a petition for >> > Ireland to >> > release their records for public access on the internet. Send this to >> other >> > researchers. Must be signed before February 1, 2000

Ginny, I live near Thompson Ridge and there are Terwilligers living around this area. Is there anything I can do for you? Sorry. As far as I know my Carney's are from Canada,StJohns, Newfoundland and Top Sail. Joan I live in Orange County, State of New York. ----- Original Message ----- From: <GinToney@aol.com> To: <CARNEY-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2000 5:06 PM Subject: [CARNEY-L] Carney in Indiana, early 1820's or 1830's > My Carney ancestor went to Indiana sometime late 1820's or 1830. Stephen > Carney married Leah Terwilliger 27 June 1794 in Hopewell Pres. Church at > Thompson Ridge, NY. (Orange County) They are mentioned in the "History of > Cass County, IN" by Thomas Helm as well as the "History of Rush County, IN" . > They are buried in Manilla Cemetery, Walker Township, Rush County. Is > anyone researching this line? > Ginny Toney > Houston, TX > >

My Carney ancestor went to Indiana sometime late 1820's or 1830. Stephen Carney married Leah Terwilliger 27 June 1794 in Hopewell Pres. Church at Thompson Ridge, NY. (Orange County) They are mentioned in the "History of Cass County, IN" by Thomas Helm as well as the "History of Rush County, IN" . They are buried in Manilla Cemetery, Walker Township, Rush County. Is anyone researching this line? Ginny Toney Houston, TX

I found these records recently in court records from 1794-1837 in Frederick Co., MD I will type exactly as I found them. CRIST, Michael d/intestate- (Pg 14-21) Children- 1. Barbara, w/o Matthias Young 2. Charlotte, w/o Jacob Baltzell 3. Henry 4. mary, w/o Michael Loehr 5. Peter 6. Elizabeth, a minor, w/o JOHN CARNEY 7. Catherine, a minor 8. Margaret, a minor 9. Susannah, a minor 10. Rosina, a minor Guardian for the last four children was John Brunner, miller. Land- parts of New Germany, resurvey on Millers Chance, Manfelt, first Part of survey on Puzzle, Fancy, Rensberger's chance, and lots 241 & 242 in Frederick Town, 816 ac total. It was decided the land could not be divided, none of the children opted to buy so sale was held. Commissioners: John Remsberg, Henry Kuhn, John Creeger, Peter Shover, William Beckwith Head, dtd march 1797. An explanation was that if the heirs were minors,(under 21 for a male and under 18 for a female, a guardian (representative of the minor who is of age and will act in the best interests of the minor) would be assigned for them or they could choose one. The commissioners who handled the case could also be selected by the heirs. Hope this helps someone! Ginny Toney