This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/UiH.2ACIB/173.1.2 Message Board Post: Dear Jenny This is amazing, I never expected to hear from anyone after all this time. I still haven't found any information on my Patrick Carmody but I know that he was the father of my grandfather and his three older brothers. Their mother was Mary Jane Loten but I suspect that they were never leagally married as her father was a devout Cof E and would never approve of her marrying a catholic so we think she must have run off with his and their first child was born 11 months after their supposed marriage on the 25/11/1866. I have always thought that my Patrick could be a brother of Thomas but he would have been younger as his birth date would have been about 1845. And I was so convinced that I have obtained all of Thomas Carmody's certificates, though his mothers surname changes from Toohey on his birth and he is Carmody, and on his marriage it is Carmady and then on his death it is Carmody again and his mother is Bridget Clarence. I have the church records of the twins James and Jose! ph but the mother's surname is Doohan, so how can they be of the same couple. No certificates have been found for my Patrick Carmody, not a trace of him except his name is on my grandfather's and his three older brothers birth certificates. I would love to hear more about your line of the Carmody family as I think there is some connection as my Patrick Carmody was supposedly born at Bathurst and he and Mary married in Walgett 25/11/1866 but not sure of this. I hope to hear from you soon Regards Karelle