This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/UiH.2ACIB/202 Message Board Post: Looking for information on John Carmody, (1858 Ireland) who married Elizabeth (Lizzie McCormick 1864 England) They had 6 children three of which survived, Lawrence Leo, Joseph and Edward. Any infor appriciated.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/UiH.2ACIB/201 Message Board Post: I am trying to find any Carmody's in Massachusetts that may have settled in the Newton area. My mother-in-law was Catherine Frances (Carmody) LeBlanc. Her father was John Carmody, born in Co. Clare,, his parents were Thomas and Bridget (McGrath) Carmody. John's wife was Mary (Nelan) Carmody born in Co. Cork, she was the daughter of John and Julia (Lawler) Nelan.. John was a chauffer.. John and Mary had 4 children:John d. 1969, Mary Margaret b. 1915 d 1991, James died at age 13 and Catherine b.1925 d. 1982. My husband would like to know if there are any relatives or information of relatives on his mothers side. Thanks for your help

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.families.aol.com/mbexec/msg/4300/UiH.2ACIB/200 Message Board Post: I am requesting info. on Winiford Maude Carmody (b. 9-5-1905 m. 3-21-1929 & d. 6-25-1963) m. to Anthony Blasi (b. 7-10-1898 d. 6-25-1963) and they had a son Lionel Malcolm Blasi (b. 11-28-1932 & d. 9-4-2002) any of this rings a bell please contact me. Thanks

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Carmody Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/UiH.2ACIB/199 Message Board Post: CARMODY, Winniford, d. of John and Winneford, July 14, 1845. I am not related to this family, I am just passing on this information, which comes from the vital records for Deerfield, Franklin, Ma., that I am transcribing to put online. These records can be found at http://www.rays-place.com/town/ma/deerfield/index.htm Joyce

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Carmody Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/UiH.2ACIB/198 Message Board Post: CARMODY, Jane Ann, d. of John and Winfred, July 1, 1848. I am not related to this family, I am just passing on this information, which comes from the vital records for Deerfield, Franklin, Ma., that I am transcribing to put online. These records can be found at http://www.rays-place.com/town/ma/deerfield/index.htm Joyce

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/UiH.2ACIB/197 Message Board Post: Hello family, I hope someone will stumble along this and give me a hand. I'm looking for a Carmody that was sent to an Australian Penal Colony in the 1840's. This Carmody would be the brother of Thomas (1806-1894) and William (1809-1889) Carmody (father's of Wisconsin's "Black Jack" and "Red Jack" Carmody) that were born in County Limerick and left Ireland between 1844 and 1846 and settled in Door County Wisconsin in the 1850's. Thomas and William left with 2 other unknown brothers, one died in Ohio and one settled in Pennsylvania. A 5th brother was to have joined them in their voyage but he was convicted of a crime (presumably theft) and was sent to the Australian Penal Colony with his family (if he had one at the time). I don't have much else to work with at this point but I do believe that the father of the 5 brothers was named John Carmody and would have been born in Ireland sometime between 1750 and 1790. I hope someone can help Rob Carmody

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Carmody, Langey Classification: Obituary Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/UiH.2ACIB/196 Message Board Post: Kensington, Md. — Funeral services for Donald P. Carmody, 75, of Kensington, Md., were held on Sept. 18, 2001, in Holy Redeemer Catholic Church in Kensington, and he was buried with full military honors at Arlington National Cemetery. He died Sept. 9, 2001, after a long illness and complications following cancer surgery. An infantryman during World War II, he won the Purple Heart when wounded after crossing the Rhine in March 1945. Mr. Carmody graduated from Champlain College in Plattsburgh in 1952. He had served as president of the student government and assisted college and local authorities in the unsuccessful attempt to prevent closure of the college. He was married for 49 years to Kathleen Langey Carmody, a Plattsburgh resident and former editorial staff member of the Plattsburgh Press-Republican. Also surviving are five sons, Stephen P. and Michael C. of Silver Spring, Md., Dr. Brendan J. Carmody of Potomac, Md., Justin of Kensington and Matthew of Hollywood, Calif.; a sister; and seven grandchildren. Mr. Carmody retired from the U.S. Public Health Service in 1978 and then practiced law for 13 years in Washington, D.C., Superior Court. He and Mrs. Carmody, an alumna of Saint John’s Academy, Plattsburgh, were both graduates of Georgetown University law school, Washington. Im not related info from www.PressRepublican.com obituary archives

I am trying to locate any living relative of family below. Patrick Carmody would have been a grand uncle, supposedly if the one found in 1901 Brit. census is him he was born in Kilbrin, Co. Cork. The parents listing on 1861 thru 1901, Brit. census. saying they were born in Co. Cork also Denis Carmody in 1825 died 1907, Johanna ( miaden name unknown)Carmody in 1826. They must have immigrated to England due to famine by 1858-9. As he was an agricultural farmer. I have been researching my CARMODY family for over 40 years, and finally found they left Ireland sometime before 1861, and lived in the W. Drayton/Harlington area in 1861-1891 period then moved onto Brentford, Battersea and Bethanl Green & Heston areas.. The names were Denis and Johanna CARMODYof my great grandparents. Their children, Patrick, 1858*,( possibly Kilbrin) Johanna 1859 W. Drayton, Eng., John 1863, in Harlington Eng. an Denis 1865.Harlington, Eng. My grandfather, John, was the only one to immigrate from England to NYC. ( He left no documents , writings or papers of any of the family, so it's been a terribly long arduous search. The onlything left of him is a picture of when he servd in US Cavary, and very poor records of Army service,) No dates match anything documented.While his parents, Denis and Johanna stayed along with siblings, Patrick, Johanna, and Denis. Denis became a Bobby with London Metroploitan Police,1884-1909 and remained a bachelor, died in 1933.. Johanna married John Carter and had Elizabeth, Denis and Kathleen & Charles between 1893-1905. Johanna died betwen 1928-38, as did her husband. I found Elizabeth marriage to Michael O'Regan along with chilldren Mary, and Daniel. Daniel killed in beginning of WWII, Mary married Michael O'Regan. One of their children married into Wortley family. I have just come across information on possibly my Patrick Carmody, b.Kilbrin, Co. Cork, married to Norah,(probably around 1886-7 in W. Drayton) along with 7-9 children born between 1889-1905 and looking for any living relatives of these members of Patrick Carmody famly. named John, Michael, Thomas, Andrew, Patrick, Johanna, Margaret and Norah......possibly others unknown at this time. This info from 1901 Brit. census. Hoping to establish contact with a living desendent of the above for further information. If anyone can help I would appreciate it. Please contact me via this list. I live in Florida, USA, not able to travel to England at this time, to do research and have more blank walls, once again. Information re: Patrick Carmody from 1901 Brit. census. English law has census allowed to be publicized after 10o ears. Thank you in advance for any help you can provide.

Our Carmody's are from County Clare, but the Lord only knows where. Have not found anything across the pond. Our Peter CARMODY circa 1813, married Bridget FLANAGAN somewhere in Ireland October 1836. They had 13 children, 6 of them born in Ireland. They came to the USA in 1849. I found them in or near Maysville Kentucky where he declared his citizenship in 1854. In 1856 he settled in Haverhill, Iowa just south of Marshalltown. Sure wish I could find more in Ireland. Anyone with CARMODY'S in Iowa or from Clare?

Hoping there is a link or any information as to a Patrick CARMODY born possibly Kilbrin, Co. Cork, Ireland 1858. He would be the son of Denis and Johanna Carmody .( no maiden name for Johannna) Family may have immigrated to Middlesex, England in the late 1850's because of the famines. Father is listed as farmer -agriculture, and son Patrick is laborer. Patrick may have marrried Norah (?) in W. Drayton , Midddlesex and by 1901 had 7 children. John, Michael, Hannah, Norah, Margaret, Patrick and Thomas, shown as living in Heston, North Hyde Park, Middlesex, England. I am looking or any relatives of any of the above Carmody family. Patrick Carmody, also worked at an orphanage as caretaker at some point between 1901 and years after. Patrick had siblings, Johanna,b. 1859) John(b. 1863*) and Denis (b. 1865). Johanna married a John Carter John came to USA in 1889, joined US Army Cavalry, married Nora Mulcahy sullivan a widow. Denis became a London Metropolitan Policeman and remained a bachelor. Thank you for any help you can provide. Please answer to Carmody list.

Hi All, I am a new lister. I have a Catherine Carmody (c 1778-c 1855) marrying in c 1809 Maurice Cussen (c 1776-c1850) and they lived in Ballyduff area. This is not that far from Beal. These people are my g-g-g-grandparents. Can anyone assist? Peter, Melbourne, Australia At 08:00 AM 12/03/2005, you wrote: >CARMODY-D Digest Volume 05 : Issue 10 > >Today's Topics: > #1 Re: Cleveland Carmodys [PegMikeCarver@aol.com] > >Administrivia: >To unsubscribe from CARMODY-D, send a message to > > CARMODY-D-request@rootsweb.com > >that contains in the body of the message the command > > unsubscribe > >and no other text. No subject line is necessary, but if your software >requires one, just use unsubscribe in the subject, too. > >To contact the list administrator, send mail to >CARMODY-admin@rootsweb.com. > >______________________________X-Message: #1 >Date: 10 Mar 2005 19:13:28 -0700 >From: PegMikeCarver@aol.com >To: CARMODY-L@rootsweb.com >Message-ID: <MB098k69RKLpgTFur2i00005947@MB09.myfamilysouth.com> >Subject: Re: Cleveland Carmodys >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > >This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > >Classification: Query > >Message Board URL: > >http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/UiH.2ACIB/168.2.2 > >Message Board Post: > >Dan, > >Do you have any Carmodys in your line that came from Beale, County Kerry, >in the 1800's? I was told alot of the Beale Carmodys ended up in >Cleveland. My gggrandfather was Edmund Carmody - married Sarah >Linnane. The children I know of (there were more) are John, b 1819, >William, b 1822, Edmund, and Deborah. > >John married Hannah Looney, their children were Edmund, b 1856 (my >grandfather), Michael, John and Johanna - all born in Ireland. They came >to US in 1866 and settled in Minnesota. More children - Daniel, William, >Mary, Margaret and Elizabeth. > >Does any of your information tie in with any of these names? > >Thank you, Peggy

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/UiH.2ACIB/168.2.2 Message Board Post: Dan, Do you have any Carmodys in your line that came from Beale, County Kerry, in the 1800's? I was told alot of the Beale Carmodys ended up in Cleveland. My gggrandfather was Edmund Carmody - married Sarah Linnane. The children I know of (there were more) are John, b 1819, William, b 1822, Edmund, and Deborah. John married Hannah Looney, their children were Edmund, b 1856 (my grandfather), Michael, John and Johanna - all born in Ireland. They came to US in 1866 and settled in Minnesota. More children - Daniel, William, Mary, Margaret and Elizabeth. Does any of your information tie in with any of these names? Thank you, Peggy

I too, have a Patrick CARMODY in my ancestry file. The brother of my Grandfather who immigrated from London area of England. his parents born in Cork. Patrick was born in 1868, and went on to become a guard at a asylum/hospital and from that time on according to census disappears, or at least no match shown to date. All that after 40+ years of searching this Carmody family. Have found the siblings but not him, tho I have come across 2 possibilities with help of site in england called Lost cousins. The one Patrick that intrigued me was the relationship to Mulcahy, as this was my Grandmother's name. Nora Mulcahy b. 1859 Kanturk cork, came to USA in 1886 married John Sullivan, had 8 children, only 3 alive by 1900 and now a widow. she then married my Grandfather John Carmody. Good luck to all you searches, and don't forget to check British census records.....just in case!

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/UiH.2ACIB/195 Message Board Post: I am looking for Carmody's living in Iowa. Am a descendent of James Carmody Marshalltown area. Also looking for a Thomas Carmody, son of Peter Carmody, born in Iowa

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/UiH.2ACIB/173.1.2.1.1.2.1 Message Board Post: Dear Jenny If you decide that we can continue our contact via our private e-mail I can send you the last draft of the book that my cousin Jan Mulcahy is writing and in this you will get a lot of details on the Loten family.Mary Jane's father was a devout Cof E and he would never have given his permission for Mary to marry Patrick as he was not only Irish but a catholic.So perhaps they were never married but the fact that they have put on the birth certificates of the four boys that they were married at Walgett could be another lie.I can't say for sure if her father forgave her for running off but he and her two sister's did raise the boys when she went to Sydney and she must have said that she was going to send money if she could but it wasn't until she died that her husband Edward Griffen went to Taree with one hundred pounds that she had saved and this was given to their grandfather to be shared between the boys. I have not been able to find any trace of Minnie Katherine or Edward Griffen, maybe he went back to America. His father was Dr. John Griffen and I found him on the IGI site in the census 1881Edward was a Carpenter and he was born in New York, but I don't know any more about him. Syphilis is only transmitted during the first two stages which usually last one to two years and the unborn child is infected after the fourth month.So Mary may not have been infectious when she married and had her second child. I would appreciate all the help you can give me or any suggestions as to how to continue my search. Hope to hear form soon Regards Karelle

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/UiH.2ACIB/173.1.2.1.1.1.1 Message Board Post: Dear Jenny I am so excited to think that I may have found my Patrick Carmody with your help. I would love to think that this Patrick is my great grandfather. I would love a copy of the photo so please send it to my private e-mail address which is the same as this one relly@tpg.com.au and if you prefere we can continue our contact through this address. Best wishes Karelle

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/UiH.2ACIB/173.1.2.1.1.2 Message Board Post: Dear Karelle, We have so many questions and not enough answers, I'm afraid. Firstly, I was going to send you the only picture of Patrick Carmody I have, a bad photocopy of an old photo. I think it comes form a photo album that an old cousin of my father has, but he's hanging on to it! Sadly Ancestry only allows Gedcom or graphics files attachments, so we may have to exchange private e-mails for you to get a copy. The photocopy is of the whole page of the album, and Patrick's picture is between those of Mary Carmody [nee Hoy, Tom's wife] and Margaret Brigdale [nee Carmody] so I think that indicates he was one of the family. The photo of Patrick was taken in Toowoomba, so when I go looking at microfiches on Saturday, I'll have a good look for any sign that Patrick and Mary Jane married in Queensland, or that Patrick died there. However, the caption to his photo reads: "Patrick Carmody born Bathurst died ?Moree". I hear from other relatives that the librarian at Moree is very helpful on family history matters, so we may be able to write to her to find if Patrick did indeed die at Moree and if we could get his death certificate, we could then see if we have the same Patrick! Apart from the one photo, I don't have any other defining evidence for Patrick being the son of Patrick and Bridget but I did a lot of thinking about it yesterday, and I think that I have circumstantial evidence, as Margaret Carmody, and her husband [William] Michael Brigdale were living in the Wellingrove area, the same time as Patrick and Mary Jane. The Brigdales were having children at the same time as Patrick and Mary Jane, but also left the area at about the same time. Michael and Margaret Brigdale's children were; 1. Richard Blake Brigdale b 1870 Armidale - d after 1906 NSW m 1892 Paddington,Sydney. Myrtle Lillian Kentwell [b 28 Mar 1873 - d 26 Mar 1954] 2. Maud E. Brigdale b abt 1871 Armidale area - d 4 July, 1911 Wickham, Newcastle. Maud did not marry. 3. Hugh Brigdale b 1872 - d 1875 Wellingrove 4. Clara Agnes Brigdale b 1875 Wellingrove - d 1881 Paddington, Sydney 5. George A. W. Brigdale b 1877 Vegetable Creek - d 4 May 1948 Newcastle m Ellen Curran 1917 Hamilton, Newcastle 6. Twins Mark & Mabel Brigdale b 1879 Paddington, Sydney I have no more infromation on Mabel, but I think that Percival M. Brigdale, who died in Paddington, Sydney, in 1879 was probably one and the same person as Mark. On the subject of twins, there is a strong history of non-identical twins in the Carmody family, so if any have popped up in your family, it may be indirect evidence of kinship. So to my branch - I am a great grandaughter of Tom Carmody and Mary Hoy. They married on "Wirrah" Station, near Moree on 3 March, 1864. Early on in their marriage, they had a hotel called "The Sportsman Arms" at Bungle Gully, Come-by-Chance. Later they moved to Wee Waa and ran another hotel there. Tom moved on to manage "Curragundi " Station, Warialda, where he stayed 9 years. He then took up a selection "Edithville", where he stayed another 9 years. Later the family moved to Mungindi, where many of his descendants still live. Their children were; 1. Frank b 17 Apr 1865 NSW - d 11 Aug 1936 QLD Frank did not marry. 2. Amy E. b1867 - d 1869 Wee Waa 3. Amy Valentine b 14 Feb 1869 Wee Waa - d 8 July 1948 Cardiff, Newcastle m 1892 Moree District, Arnott Leslie [b1864 - d 1945] 4. Annie Myra b 1871 Warialda - d 3 Dec 1960 Mungindi m 10 Dec 1897 ?Queensland, Edward Terence Carlon [b abt1869 - d 1916] 5. Thomas b 1874 Warialda - d 8 Oct 1930 Mitchell, QLD m ? Kitty ?Queensland 6. John b 17 May 1876 Wee Waa - d 1956 Gunnedah m 1907 Moree District Winifred Carlile [b 14 Aug 1876 - d abt June 1965] 7. Edith Mary b 3 Aug 1878 "Curragundi" Station, Warialda - d 2 July 1968 Sydney m 8 Jan 1908 Sydney William Henry Joseph Kirby [b 23 Feb 1877 - d 2 July 1949] 8. Fanny Elizabeth b 1881 Warialda - d abt 1965 Sydney] 1. Partner William James Noud [b 1881 - 14 May 1917 The Somme] 2. m in 1920s E. Lake [b? d?] 9. Wilfred Clarence b 1884 Narrabri - d abt 1958 NSW m 28 Apr 1908 Moree District, Ida F. Adams [b 1887 - d?] As I said, I thought a lot about what you wrote, and I have few questions that arise from that. Here goes! Had Mary Jane's father forgiven her, when he agreed to take care of her four little sons? A likely scenario seems to be that Patrick had indeed died, and Mary Jane had gone home to her widowed father with her children, a normal thing to do . However when she got pregnant to someone else [?Kate Ritchie's brother], either her father threw her out or she fled to Sydney to have the baby. Were any of her family in Sydney at the time? It doesn't appear so, as she seemed to have been destitute [lying about Patrick deserting her] and desperate, perhaps even selling herself to survive, hence the syphilis. After losing Nina, she must have recovered enough to survive somehow, marry Edward, and have another child, before seccumbing to TB, as often happened to young women in those days after bearing a quick succession of children. What a sad short life she had.If poor little Nina was syphilitic, why wasn't Mary Jane's next child so afflicted? Do you have any information on Minnie Katheri! ne? Did she live long? Could Mary have been in remission between the second and third stages of syphilis and thus didn't pass it on? Did her second husband die from it? But enough. Between us we'll work this out. Perhaps we'll have to do what my husband's family has done, and get the male descendants to get their DNA compared. My husband has found his 6th cousin in Bateman's Bay [or rather his cousin and I found each other on the net] and they proved they go all the way back to a common ancestor in 1689 in Wiltshire! If we got some Carmody men from each family to agree, we may be able to do the same. Be warned though, some of the Vines have had nasty surprises and have found out they are not who they thought they were! As for Catherine Vines in Bathurst, I think she is a descendant of Peter Vines who came as a convict, also from Wiltshire, but we haven't quite tied him into the family yet. Best Wishes, Jenny

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/UiH.2ACIB/173.1.2.1.1.1 Message Board Post: Dear Karelle, We have so many questions and not enough answers, I'm afraid. Firstly, I was going to send you the only picture of Patrick Carmody I have, a bad photocopy of an old photo. I think it comes form a photo album that an old cousin of my father has, but he's hanging on to it! Sadly Ancestry only allows Gedcom or graphics files attachments, so we may have to exchange private e-mails for you to get a copy. The photocopy is of the whole page of the album, and Patrick's picture is between those of Mary Carmody [nee Hoy, Tom's wife] and Margaret Brigdale [nee Carmody] so i think that indicates he was one of the family. The photo of Patrick was taken in Toowoomba, so when I go looking at microfiches on Saturday, I'll have a good look for any sign that Patrick and Mary Jane married in Queensland, or that Patrick died there. However, the caption to his photo reads: "Patrick Carmody born Bathurst died ?Moree". I hear from other relatives that the librarian at Moree is very helpful on family history matters, so we may be able to write to her to find if Patrick did indeed die at Moree and if we could get his death certificate, we could then see if we have the same Patrick! Apart from the one photo, I don't have any other defining evidence for Patrick being the son of Patrick and Bridget but I did a lot of thinking about it yesterday, and I think that I have circumstantial evidence, as Margaret Carmody, and her husband [William] Michael Brigdale were living in the Wellingrove area, the same time as Patrick and Mary Jane. The Brigdales were having children at the same time as Patrick and Mary Jane, but also left the area at about the same time. Michael and Margaret Brigdale's children were; 1. Richard Blake Brigdale b 1870 Armidale - d after 1906 NSW m 1892 Paddington, Sydney Myrtle Lillian Kentwell [b 28 Mar 1873 - d 26 Mar 1954] 2. Maud E. Brigdale b abt 1871 Armidale area - d 4 July, 1911 Wickham, Newcastle. Maud did not marry. 3. Hugh Brigdale b 1872 - d 1875 Wellingrove 4. Clara Agnes Brigdale b 1875 Wellingrove - d 1881 Paddington, Sydney 5. George A. W. Brigdale b 1877 Vegetable Creek - d 4 May 1948 Newcastle m Ellen Curran 1917 Hamilton, Newcastle 6. Twins Mark & Mabel Brigdale b 1879 Paddington, Sydney I have no more infromation on Mabel, but I think that Percival M. Brigdale, who died in Paddington, Sydney, in 1879 was probably on e and the same person as Mark. On the subject of twins, there is a strong history of non-identical twins in the Carmody family, so if any have popped up in your family, it may be indirect evidence of kinship. So to my branch - I am a great grandaughter of Tom Carmody and Mary Hoy. they married on "Wirrah" Station, near Moree on 3 March, 1864. Early on in their marriage, they had a hotel called "The Sportsman Arms" at Bungle Gully, Come-by-Chance. Later they moved to Wee Waa and ran another hotel there. Tom moved on to manage "Curragundi " Station where he stayed 9 years. He then took up a selection "Edithville", where he stayed another 9 years. Later the family moved to Mungindi, where many of his descendants still live. Their children are; 1. Frank b 17 Apr 1865 NSW - d 11 Aug 1936 QLD Frank did not marry. 2. Amy E. b1867 - d 1869 Wee Waa 3. Amy Valentine b 14 Feb 1869 Wee Waa - d 8 July 1948 Cardiff, Newcastle m 1892 Moree District, Arnott Leslie [b1864 - d 1945] 4. Annie Myra b 1871 Warialda - d 3 Dec 1960 Mungindi m 10 Dec 1897 ?Queensland, Edward Terence Carlon [b abt1869 - d 1916] 5. Thomas b 1874 Warialda - d 8 Oct 1930 Mitchell, QLD m ? Kitty ?Queensland 6. John b 17 May 1876 Wee Waa - d 1956 Gunnedah m 1907 Moree District Winifred Carlile [b 14 Aug 1876 - d abt June 1965] 7. Edith Mary b 3 Aug 1878 "Curragundi" Station, Warialda - d 2 July 1968 Sydney m 8 Jan 1908 Sydney William Henry Joseph Kirby [b 23 Feb 1877 - d 2 July 1949] 8. Fanny Elizabeth b 1881 Warialda - d abt 1965 Sydney] 1. Partner William James Noud [b 1881 - 14 May 1917 The Somme] 2. m in 1920s E. Lake [b? d?] 9. Wilfred Clarence b 1884 Narrabri - d abt 1958 NSW m 28 Apr 1908 Moree District, Ida F. Adams [b 1887 - d?]

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/UiH.2ACIB/173.1.2.1.1 Message Board Post: Dear Jenny I would be overjoyed if we were really related as I didn't think that I would ever find any information on my Patrick Carmody as I said last time I cannot find any documentation on Patrick.Not birth,marriage or death, just a name on four birth certificates. Do you know for sure if Patrick and Bridget had a son called Patrick? I have collected a lot of documents over the last two years just on the off chance they were relevant to my family and after your last e-mail I find that I have relevant ones.I have PatrickCarmody Immigrant record from the Magistrate also his brother John who came on the Fairlie, on his it says that his mother, another Bridget is dead but his father John is alive. I have the baptism of James and Joseph but the surname of Bridget being Doohan and they lived at Page and because of this I didn't think that they were related. I would like to hear more about them.I have the birth of a Patrick Carmody born 18th July 1852 to John and Bridget Consedine and I have Bridget's death 23rd Feb.1885 and Patrick was 32yrs at the time of her death so I now know for sure that this Patrick is not mine but maybe a cousin. I have Margaret Carmady's marriage to Michael Brigdale in Armidale 1/8/1868 but I also have a marriage of a Margaret Helena Carmody to John Ward ,a widower, in Kelso near Bathurst on the 4/2/1861and one of the witnesses were a Catherine Vines, any relation to you ? My cousin and fellow researcher Jan Mulcahy, we are related by our great grandmother's Mary Jane and Alice Kate Loten, she is writing the family book and I have been helping her with the research but I hit a brick wall with Patrick but Mary's side was a lot easier so I hope you can knock down that wall for me and we will have some new information to add to the book. Patrick Carmody and Mary Jane Loten's children were: Herbert Going b. 19/10/1867 Strathbogie d. Tasmania never married. Sydney Ernest b. 30/7/1869 Strathbogie d.9/5/1946 Bellingen married Alice McFadden 6/3/1889 James Pecival b.10/2/1872 Strathbogie d.9/10/1947 Scott's Creek, near Taree married Sarah Smith 1893 Francis Richard b.16/2/1874 Vegetable Creek now Emmaville d.12/8/1943 Coff's Harbour married Ann Sarah Atkins 16/5/1898 These are my grandparents Patrick supposedly died from a fall form a horse three months after the birth of Francis but no death certificate can be found. All I have to go on is an entry made on Mary's application to enter theSydney Benevolent Society to give birth to her fifth child she stated that Patrick had deserted her and that she had a warrant out after him but if he is dead then how can this be. Patrick's name is on the birth certificate but it is now 31/8/1876. We do know that took her four boys back to her father in Taree in 1874 and became pregnant some time in December 1875 to whom we don't know for sure but she gave the child the middle name of Ritchie but then it was the maiden name of her sister inlaw Kate Ritchie.She went to Sydney early in her pregnancy and must have been free and easy as the little girl she gave birth to had conjenital Syphilis and died at two weeks. The full name was Nina Ritchie Carmady.We looked up information on Syphilis and the unborn child contracts it at about the fourth month. Mary did survive long enough to marry an American, Edward Griffen 10/12/1877and she gave birth to another girl. Minnie Katherine Griffen on the 29/4/1879 Mary died 20/5/1879 from TB which was what killed her mother at the age of 33yrs and many of her family. So that is my great grandmother's story. I hope to find more about Patrick. I haven't given up yet. Regards Karelle

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/UiH.2ACIB/173.1.2.1 Message Board Post: Dear Cousin Karelle, We are definitely related! My great grandfather is Thomas Carmody, brother to your Patrick. My father's dear old cousin, who started the family history research on the Carmodys, always maintained that Patrick and Thomas' mother Bridget's surname was Clarence! I'm fairly sure Bridget was illegitimate, and the poor girl probably invented names for herself, as it suited! In the immigrant book of the "Magistrate" in 1838, she is given as being a "native of Kilmurry, Co. Clare, daughter of Nancy Whally[?Meally], Dairy Maid, of the same place" whereas Patrick is given as a "native of Kilmurry, Co. Clare, son of John Carmody, Farmer, of the same place". so maybe all the confusion stems from her illegitimacy. Apparently she died giving birth to the twins in 1850, which led to big problems for Patrick - what was he to to do with his motherless children? Eventually he took them to Werris Creek to live with their Uncle [?Patrick's brother John]. Thomas [the eldest boy] wasn't happy there and ran away at the age of 14 [about 1856] with a teamster to the Moree district. He was working in the area when, aged 22, he married Mary Hoy at "Wirrah" Station, [?near Moree] If your Patrick was born about 1845, it fits better as Thomas was always said to be the eldest boy and Patrick would have only been a little boy of 6 or 7 when his mother died. The family as I know it is; 1. Annie b 1841 d 1916 m 1. Thomas Callinan 1862 . 2. William Smith 1877 2. Thomas b 24 Jan 1842 d 8 Dec 1911 m Mary Hoy 1864 3. Margaret b 1845 d 21 Nov 1916 m William Michael Brigdale 1868 4. Patrick b abt1845 d ? [do you have this date?] m? Mary Jane Loten ? 25 Nov 1866 5. Mary b bef 1848 d?as an infant 6. John b abt1848 d unknown 7. James b 1850 d ?1873 8. Joseph b 1850 d ?1873 I have lots more on my line and Margaret's family too, and would love to swap more information. Hope to hear back from you soon, Best Wishes, Jenny