Diana & listers Whooo! There you could be treading on my Williams family - on my mother's side. I have not definitively traced them back further than the 1881 census - one of the jobs in the pending file! My grandmother Mary Williams (aged 2) was in Tyrbach St. Ishmael with her parents John & Rachel Williams in the 1891 census. John Williams (aged 14) was in Treforisfach, St. Ishmael in the 1881 census with his parents David & Jane Williams. Where was William Williams in the 1851 census? Tommy -----Neges Wreiddiol-----/-----Original Message----- Oddi wrth/From: diana murray [mailto:littlewarrenfarm@fletchingcommon.fsbusiness.co.uk] Anfonwyd/Sent: 23 July 2005 15:34 At/To: CARMARTHENSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com Pwnc/Subject: Re: [Cmn-L] William/Thomas family All things are possible! I found an 18 year old William William on the 1851 census but I can't remember why I discounted it at St Ishmael Llangederine 1 page 6c. Is it the same household? Diana ==== CARMARTHENSHIRE Mailing List ==== Carmarthenshire Place Names Database - Looking for a farm etc you cannot find - Contact - PeterWihl@compuserve.com - Let him know the name of the Farm House etc etc - He will search the Database -- This email has been verified as Virus free Virus Protection and more available at http://www.plus.net

Hello Tommy - the definate in my maiden name is as follows:- 1855 John Williams c 1835 Adulam Row Felinfoel marries Margaret Davies at Adulam Chapel the children are John (my direct family) Ann and Catherine. 1866 John Williams c 1835 dies in the presence of Daniel Davies father of Margaret. 1851 census John Williams c 1835 living in Caerfelin Row with sister Margaret Hopkin c 1823 and John Hopkin with their children. 1841 census Margaret c 1823, Hannah c 1833 and John c 1835 all living at Blaennant with no sign of any parents. Nearby are living the Fisher, Hopkin, and Samuel families. Also nearby there is a Banks family. It is that family that has a possible but totally unproved connection with my William/s family. William Banks married Ann William in Llanelli 27/5/1835 and could possibly be the sister of Mary William born St. Ishmael c 1791 living in 1851 in Old Road Hengoed hamlet Llanelli. These women - Mary and Ann are possibly the sisters of my John William c 1835's father also called John William born c 1803 ish give or take a bit! Do you see any connections? Blaennant fach and surrounding area seems to be the key. with best wishes Diana