Hi Pauline, I dont know when Benjamin was born, married or died as I say all I have is Elizabeth's marriage certificate to John Burkey, and Benjamin Burkey's birth certificate. Also an older brother William born Llanelly about 1829-31.I know he was her brother because on the 1871 census one of John and Elizabeth's son's was staying with him and was named as a nephew.I know I dont have a lot to go on but I'm sure you know how frustrating it can be when you can't find the information. My Grandfather Richard was Elizabeth and John's seventh and youngest son and died in 1954, all his brothers went to live in Essex so I have no one to ask.Linda From: "diana murray" <littlewarrenfarm@fletchingcommon.fsbusiness.co.uk> To: <CARMARTHENSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2005 6:26 AM Subject: [Cmn-L] Samuel family Llanelly > Hello Linda - I forgot to say that there was no Benjamin or Elizabeth Samuel in the family I found yesterday. But I will keep my eyes open as I go through the Llanelly 1841 census for you. I found four other Samuel families but no sign of your ones so far. Do you have them on the 1851 census? > > Diana > > > ==== CARMARTHENSHIRE Mailing List ==== > Wales Genealogy CD's for Wales research > http://www.Wales-Genealogy.co.uk > >

I found a burial of a Benjamin Samuel in Llanelly parish church 1847 1st May - Benjamin Samuel, Seaside, aged 32 is this him? Pauline ----- Original Message ----- From: "gordon myddelton" <gordon.myddelton@ntlworld.com> To: <CARMARTHENSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2005 12:45 PM Subject: Re: [Cmn-L] Samuel family Llanelly > Hi Pauline, I dont know when Benjamin was born, married or died as I say > all > I have is Elizabeth's marriage certificate to John Burkey, and Benjamin > Burkey's birth certificate. Also an older brother William born Llanelly > about 1829-31.I know he was her brother because on the 1871 census one of > John and Elizabeth's son's was staying with him and was named as a > nephew.I > know I dont have a lot to go on but I'm sure you know how frustrating it > can > be when you can't find the information. My Grandfather Richard was > Elizabeth > and John's seventh and youngest son and died in 1954, all his brothers > went > to live in Essex so I have no one to ask.Linda > From: "diana murray" <littlewarrenfarm@fletchingcommon.fsbusiness.co.uk> > To: <CARMARTHENSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2005 6:26 AM > Subject: [Cmn-L] Samuel family Llanelly > > >> Hello Linda - I forgot to say that there was no Benjamin or Elizabeth > Samuel in the family I found yesterday. But I will keep my eyes open as > I > go through the Llanelly 1841 census for you. I found four other Samuel > families but no sign of your ones so far. Do you have them on the 1851 > census? >> >> Diana >> >> >> ==== CARMARTHENSHIRE Mailing List ==== >> Wales Genealogy CD's for Wales research >> http://www.Wales-Genealogy.co.uk >> >> > > > > ==== CARMARTHENSHIRE Mailing List ==== > Wales Genealogy CD's for Wales research > http://www.Wales-Genealogy.co.uk >

Hi Linda What was Benjamin's occupation on the marriage certificate? I have these possible Elizabeth Samuel's in 1851 Llanelly 1851 dist 2,1f sch 52 page 14 Mill Street Mary Samuel head wid 48 shoemakers widow born Llanelly Thomas son 28 Llanelly Susanna dau 24 Llanelly John son 18 Llanelly Elizabeth dau 16 Llanelly William son 4 Llanelly or in Berwick hamlet dist 3a 115 Swab Jane Samuel head 55 Ann dau 26 John son 19 Elizabeth dau 17 William son 13 Did the whole family move, do you know Pauline ----- Original Message ----- From: "gordon myddelton" <gordon.myddelton@ntlworld.com> To: <CARMARTHENSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2005 12:45 PM Subject: Re: [Cmn-L] Samuel family Llanelly > Hi Pauline, I dont know when Benjamin was born, married or died as I say > all > I have is Elizabeth's marriage certificate to John Burkey, and Benjamin > Burkey's birth certificate. Also an older brother William born Llanelly > about 1829-31.I know he was her brother because on the 1871 census one of > John and Elizabeth's son's was staying with him and was named as a > nephew.I > know I dont have a lot to go on but I'm sure you know how frustrating it > can > be when you can't find the information. My Grandfather Richard was > Elizabeth > and John's seventh and youngest son and died in 1954, all his brothers > went > to live in Essex so I have no one to ask.Linda > From: "diana murray" <littlewarrenfarm@fletchingcommon.fsbusiness.co.uk> > To: <CARMARTHENSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2005 6:26 AM > Subject: [Cmn-L] Samuel family Llanelly > > >> Hello Linda - I forgot to say that there was no Benjamin or Elizabeth > Samuel in the family I found yesterday. But I will keep my eyes open as > I > go through the Llanelly 1841 census for you. I found four other Samuel > families but no sign of your ones so far. Do you have them on the 1851 > census? >> >> Diana >> >> >> ==== CARMARTHENSHIRE Mailing List ==== >> Wales Genealogy CD's for Wales research >> http://www.Wales-Genealogy.co.uk >> >> > > > > ==== CARMARTHENSHIRE Mailing List ==== > Wales Genealogy CD's for Wales research > http://www.Wales-Genealogy.co.uk >

Benjamins occupation was Coppersmith and William was definitely older by about 8 or 9 years according to census for 1861/71/81/91. William seems to have settled here in Birkenhead and lived near Elizabeth and her family. Linda ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pauline James" <paulinejames@onvol.net> To: <CARMARTHENSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2005 11:59 AM Subject: Re: [Cmn-L] Samuel family Llanelly > Hi Linda > > What was Benjamin's occupation on the marriage certificate? > > I have these possible Elizabeth Samuel's in 1851 > > Llanelly 1851 dist 2,1f > sch 52 page 14 Mill Street > Mary Samuel head wid 48 shoemakers widow born Llanelly > Thomas son 28 Llanelly > Susanna dau 24 Llanelly > John son 18 Llanelly > Elizabeth dau 16 Llanelly > William son 4 Llanelly > > or in Berwick hamlet dist 3a > 115 Swab > Jane Samuel head 55 > Ann dau 26 > John son 19 > Elizabeth dau 17 > William son 13 > > Did the whole family move, do you know > > Pauline > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "gordon myddelton" <gordon.myddelton@ntlworld.com> > To: <CARMARTHENSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2005 12:45 PM > Subject: Re: [Cmn-L] Samuel family Llanelly > > > > Hi Pauline, I dont know when Benjamin was born, married or died as I say > > all > > I have is Elizabeth's marriage certificate to John Burkey, and Benjamin > > Burkey's birth certificate. Also an older brother William born Llanelly > > about 1829-31.I know he was her brother because on the 1871 census one of > > John and Elizabeth's son's was staying with him and was named as a > > nephew.I > > know I dont have a lot to go on but I'm sure you know how frustrating it > > can > > be when you can't find the information. My Grandfather Richard was > > Elizabeth > > and John's seventh and youngest son and died in 1954, all his brothers > > went > > to live in Essex so I have no one to ask.Linda > > From: "diana murray" <littlewarrenfarm@fletchingcommon.fsbusiness.co.uk> > > To: <CARMARTHENSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2005 6:26 AM > > Subject: [Cmn-L] Samuel family Llanelly > > > > > >> Hello Linda - I forgot to say that there was no Benjamin or Elizabeth > > Samuel in the family I found yesterday. But I will keep my eyes open as > > I > > go through the Llanelly 1841 census for you. I found four other Samuel > > families but no sign of your ones so far. Do you have them on the 1851 > > census? > >> > >> Diana > >> > >> > >> ==== CARMARTHENSHIRE Mailing List ==== > >> Wales Genealogy CD's for Wales research > >> http://www.Wales-Genealogy.co.uk > >> > >> > > > > > > > > ==== CARMARTHENSHIRE Mailing List ==== > > Wales Genealogy CD's for Wales research > > http://www.Wales-Genealogy.co.uk > > > > > ==== CARMARTHENSHIRE Mailing List ==== > I use Wales Genealogy CD's for my research > http://www.Wales-Genealogy.co.uk > >