Linda when was William Samuel born? What are the details from the census that you have, do you think they were still in Llanelly in 1851 Pauline ----- Original Message ----- From: "gordon myddelton" <gordon.myddelton@ntlworld.com> To: <CARMARTHENSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2005 1:13 PM Subject: Re: [Cmn-L] Samuel family Llanelly > Benjamins occupation was Coppersmith and William was definitely older by > about 8 or 9 years according to census for 1861/71/81/91. William seems to > have settled here in Birkenhead and lived near Elizabeth and her family. > Linda > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Pauline James" <paulinejames@onvol.net> > To: <CARMARTHENSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2005 11:59 AM > Subject: Re: [Cmn-L] Samuel family Llanelly > > >> Hi Linda >> >> What was Benjamin's occupation on the marriage certificate? >> >> I have these possible Elizabeth Samuel's in 1851 >> >> Llanelly 1851 dist 2,1f >> sch 52 page 14 Mill Street >> Mary Samuel head wid 48 shoemakers widow born Llanelly >> Thomas son 28 Llanelly >> Susanna dau 24 Llanelly >> John son 18 Llanelly >> Elizabeth dau 16 Llanelly >> William son 4 Llanelly >> >> or in Berwick hamlet dist 3a >> 115 Swab >> Jane Samuel head 55 >> Ann dau 26 >> John son 19 >> Elizabeth dau 17 >> William son 13 >> >> Did the whole family move, do you know >> >> Pauline >> >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "gordon myddelton" <gordon.myddelton@ntlworld.com> >> To: <CARMARTHENSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2005 12:45 PM >> Subject: Re: [Cmn-L] Samuel family Llanelly >> >> >> > Hi Pauline, I dont know when Benjamin was born, married or died as I >> > say >> > all >> > I have is Elizabeth's marriage certificate to John Burkey, and Benjamin >> > Burkey's birth certificate. Also an older brother William born Llanelly >> > about 1829-31.I know he was her brother because on the 1871 census one > of >> > John and Elizabeth's son's was staying with him and was named as a >> > nephew.I >> > know I dont have a lot to go on but I'm sure you know how frustrating >> > it >> > can >> > be when you can't find the information. My Grandfather Richard was >> > Elizabeth >> > and John's seventh and youngest son and died in 1954, all his brothers >> > went >> > to live in Essex so I have no one to ask.Linda >> > From: "diana murray" >> > <littlewarrenfarm@fletchingcommon.fsbusiness.co.uk> >> > To: <CARMARTHENSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> >> > Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2005 6:26 AM >> > Subject: [Cmn-L] Samuel family Llanelly >> > >> > >> >> Hello Linda - I forgot to say that there was no Benjamin or Elizabeth >> > Samuel in the family I found yesterday. But I will keep my eyes open > as >> > I >> > go through the Llanelly 1841 census for you. I found four other > Samuel >> > families but no sign of your ones so far. Do you have them on the >> > 1851 >> > census? >> >> >> >> Diana >> >> >> >> >> >> ==== CARMARTHENSHIRE Mailing List ==== >> >> Wales Genealogy CD's for Wales research >> >> http://www.Wales-Genealogy.co.uk >> >> >> >> >> > >> > >> > >> > ==== CARMARTHENSHIRE Mailing List ==== >> > Wales Genealogy CD's for Wales research >> > http://www.Wales-Genealogy.co.uk >> > >> >> >> ==== CARMARTHENSHIRE Mailing List ==== >> I use Wales Genealogy CD's for my research >> http://www.Wales-Genealogy.co.uk >> >> > > > > ==== CARMARTHENSHIRE Mailing List ==== > GenWeb & Genconnect pages for your genealogical web links and research > questions & Quiries. > http://www.carmarthenshirefhs.co.uk >
Pauline I have'nt got a clue where they were in 1851.According to 1861 census for Birkenhead William was 34 birth date about 1827 he was coal dealer, His wifes name was Ellen, she was born about 1818 and was aged 43. She was born in Llanyngendl Anglesey. Linda ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pauline James" <paulinejames@onvol.net> To: <CARMARTHENSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2005 12:29 PM Subject: Re: [Cmn-L] Samuel family Llanelly > Linda when was William Samuel born? What are the details from the census > that you have, do you think they were still in Llanelly in 1851 Pauline > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "gordon myddelton" <gordon.myddelton@ntlworld.com> > To: <CARMARTHENSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2005 1:13 PM > Subject: Re: [Cmn-L] Samuel family Llanelly > > > > Benjamins occupation was Coppersmith and William was definitely older by > > about 8 or 9 years according to census for 1861/71/81/91. William seems to > > have settled here in Birkenhead and lived near Elizabeth and her family. > > Linda > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Pauline James" <paulinejames@onvol.net> > > To: <CARMARTHENSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2005 11:59 AM > > Subject: Re: [Cmn-L] Samuel family Llanelly > > > > > >> Hi Linda > >> > >> What was Benjamin's occupation on the marriage certificate? > >> > >> I have these possible Elizabeth Samuel's in 1851 > >> > >> Llanelly 1851 dist 2,1f > >> sch 52 page 14 Mill Street > >> Mary Samuel head wid 48 shoemakers widow born Llanelly > >> Thomas son 28 Llanelly > >> Susanna dau 24 Llanelly > >> John son 18 Llanelly > >> Elizabeth dau 16 Llanelly > >> William son 4 Llanelly > >> > >> or in Berwick hamlet dist 3a > >> 115 Swab > >> Jane Samuel head 55 > >> Ann dau 26 > >> John son 19 > >> Elizabeth dau 17 > >> William son 13 > >> > >> Did the whole family move, do you know > >> > >> Pauline > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: "gordon myddelton" <gordon.myddelton@ntlworld.com> > >> To: <CARMARTHENSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> > >> Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2005 12:45 PM > >> Subject: Re: [Cmn-L] Samuel family Llanelly > >> > >> > >> > Hi Pauline, I dont know when Benjamin was born, married or died as I > >> > say > >> > all > >> > I have is Elizabeth's marriage certificate to John Burkey, and Benjamin > >> > Burkey's birth certificate. Also an older brother William born Llanelly > >> > about 1829-31.I know he was her brother because on the 1871 census one > > of > >> > John and Elizabeth's son's was staying with him and was named as a > >> > nephew.I > >> > know I dont have a lot to go on but I'm sure you know how frustrating > >> > it > >> > can > >> > be when you can't find the information. My Grandfather Richard was > >> > Elizabeth > >> > and John's seventh and youngest son and died in 1954, all his brothers > >> > went > >> > to live in Essex so I have no one to ask.Linda > >> > From: "diana murray" > >> > <littlewarrenfarm@fletchingcommon.fsbusiness.co.uk> > >> > To: <CARMARTHENSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> > >> > Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2005 6:26 AM > >> > Subject: [Cmn-L] Samuel family Llanelly > >> > > >> > > >> >> Hello Linda - I forgot to say that there was no Benjamin or Elizabeth > >> > Samuel in the family I found yesterday. But I will keep my eyes open > > as > >> > I > >> > go through the Llanelly 1841 census for you. I found four other > > Samuel > >> > families but no sign of your ones so far. Do you have them on the > >> > 1851 > >> > census? > >> >> > >> >> Diana > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> ==== CARMARTHENSHIRE Mailing List ==== > >> >> Wales Genealogy CD's for Wales research > >> >> http://www.Wales-Genealogy.co.uk > >> >> > >> >> > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > ==== CARMARTHENSHIRE Mailing List ==== > >> > Wales Genealogy CD's for Wales research > >> > http://www.Wales-Genealogy.co.uk > >> > > >> > >> > >> ==== CARMARTHENSHIRE Mailing List ==== > >> I use Wales Genealogy CD's for my research > >> http://www.Wales-Genealogy.co.uk > >> > >> > > > > > > > > ==== CARMARTHENSHIRE Mailing List ==== > > GenWeb & Genconnect pages for your genealogical web links and research > > questions & Quiries. > > http://www.carmarthenshirefhs.co.uk > > > > > ==== CARMARTHENSHIRE Mailing List ==== > Carmarthenshire Place Names Database - Looking for a farm etc you cannot find - Contact - PeterWihl@compuserve.com - Let him know the name of the Farm House etc etc - He will search the Database > >
Where did William say he was born......when and where were they childrn born so that we will have a little clue where he could have been in 1851... Pauline ----- Original Message ----- From: "gordon myddelton" <gordon.myddelton@ntlworld.com> To: <CARMARTHENSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2005 2:36 PM Subject: Re: [Cmn-L] Samuel family Llanelly > Pauline I have'nt got a clue where they were in 1851.According to 1861 > census for Birkenhead William was 34 birth date about 1827 he was coal > dealer, His wifes name was Ellen, she was born about 1818 and was aged 43. > She was born in Llanyngendl Anglesey. Linda > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Pauline James" <paulinejames@onvol.net> > To: <CARMARTHENSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2005 12:29 PM > Subject: Re: [Cmn-L] Samuel family Llanelly > > >> Linda when was William Samuel born? What are the details from the census >> that you have, do you think they were still in Llanelly in 1851 Pauline >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "gordon myddelton" <gordon.myddelton@ntlworld.com> >> To: <CARMARTHENSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2005 1:13 PM >> Subject: Re: [Cmn-L] Samuel family Llanelly >> >> >> > Benjamins occupation was Coppersmith and William was definitely older >> > by >> > about 8 or 9 years according to census for 1861/71/81/91. William seems > to >> > have settled here in Birkenhead and lived near Elizabeth and her >> > family. >> > Linda >> > ----- Original Message ----- >> > From: "Pauline James" <paulinejames@onvol.net> >> > To: <CARMARTHENSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> >> > Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2005 11:59 AM >> > Subject: Re: [Cmn-L] Samuel family Llanelly >> > >> > >> >> Hi Linda >> >> >> >> What was Benjamin's occupation on the marriage certificate? >> >> >> >> I have these possible Elizabeth Samuel's in 1851 >> >> >> >> Llanelly 1851 dist 2,1f >> >> sch 52 page 14 Mill Street >> >> Mary Samuel head wid 48 shoemakers widow born Llanelly >> >> Thomas son 28 Llanelly >> >> Susanna dau 24 Llanelly >> >> John son 18 Llanelly >> >> Elizabeth dau 16 Llanelly >> >> William son 4 Llanelly >> >> >> >> or in Berwick hamlet dist 3a >> >> 115 Swab >> >> Jane Samuel head 55 >> >> Ann dau 26 >> >> John son 19 >> >> Elizabeth dau 17 >> >> William son 13 >> >> >> >> Did the whole family move, do you know >> >> >> >> Pauline >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> >> From: "gordon myddelton" <gordon.myddelton@ntlworld.com> >> >> To: <CARMARTHENSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> >> >> Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2005 12:45 PM >> >> Subject: Re: [Cmn-L] Samuel family Llanelly >> >> >> >> >> >> > Hi Pauline, I dont know when Benjamin was born, married or died as I >> >> > say >> >> > all >> >> > I have is Elizabeth's marriage certificate to John Burkey, and > Benjamin >> >> > Burkey's birth certificate. Also an older brother William born > Llanelly >> >> > about 1829-31.I know he was her brother because on the 1871 census > one >> > of >> >> > John and Elizabeth's son's was staying with him and was named as a >> >> > nephew.I >> >> > know I dont have a lot to go on but I'm sure you know how >> >> > frustrating >> >> > it >> >> > can >> >> > be when you can't find the information. My Grandfather Richard was >> >> > Elizabeth >> >> > and John's seventh and youngest son and died in 1954, all his > brothers >> >> > went >> >> > to live in Essex so I have no one to ask.Linda >> >> > From: "diana murray" >> >> > <littlewarrenfarm@fletchingcommon.fsbusiness.co.uk> >> >> > To: <CARMARTHENSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> >> >> > Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2005 6:26 AM >> >> > Subject: [Cmn-L] Samuel family Llanelly >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >> Hello Linda - I forgot to say that there was no Benjamin or > Elizabeth >> >> > Samuel in the family I found yesterday. But I will keep my eyes > open >> > as >> >> > I >> >> > go through the Llanelly 1841 census for you. I found four other >> > Samuel >> >> > families but no sign of your ones so far. Do you have them on the >> >> > 1851 >> >> > census? >> >> >> >> >> >> Diana >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ==== CARMARTHENSHIRE Mailing List ==== >> >> >> Wales Genealogy CD's for Wales research >> >> >> http://www.Wales-Genealogy.co.uk >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > ==== CARMARTHENSHIRE Mailing List ==== >> >> > Wales Genealogy CD's for Wales research >> >> > http://www.Wales-Genealogy.co.uk >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> ==== CARMARTHENSHIRE Mailing List ==== >> >> I use Wales Genealogy CD's for my research >> >> http://www.Wales-Genealogy.co.uk >> >> >> >> >> > >> > >> > >> > ==== CARMARTHENSHIRE Mailing List ==== >> > GenWeb & Genconnect pages for your genealogical web links and research >> > questions & Quiries. >> > http://www.carmarthenshirefhs.co.uk >> > >> >> >> ==== CARMARTHENSHIRE Mailing List ==== >> Carmarthenshire Place Names Database - Looking for a farm etc you cannot > find - Contact - PeterWihl@compuserve.com - Let him know the name of the > Farm House etc etc - He will search the Database >> >> > > > > ==== CARMARTHENSHIRE Mailing List ==== > Wales Genealogy CD's for Wales research > http://www.Wales-Genealogy.co.uk >