Hi Diana, Thanks for all your help. I have the family on the 1851 and 1861, but by 1871 Mary was missing. I want to try and find her 1871,1881 not just to fill in spaces, but as it seems she may be the mother of the relative I'm researching. Finding where she was might pin point the father, who is not on the census and also see where she was and going. I have contacted Registry Office already for the certificate of her birth as I know date and that she was born in Caio, probably Cwrt y Cadno. Regards Helen