I am looking for two families. Not connected at all except by marriage! The first is my great grandfather DAVID EVANS who married MARY JONES and had a son THOMAS, they lived near Court Henry on a farm My grandfather Thomas was born IN 1861. We do not know any dates for David or Mary or where they were married. The other family is my husband's. His grandfather DAVID VIVIAN DUDLEY THOMAS's family was as follows: Emma has been a terrific help and found the following: 1881 census At Maesyprior, Carmarthen Nathaniel Thomas, head, marr., 54, farmer, farming 250 acres, b. St. Peter's, Carms. Anne Thomas, wife, marr.,........56,........................................b. Abergwilli, Carms. Thomas Thomas, son, single,.....27, farmer's son,....................b. St. Peter's, Carms. David Thomas, son, single,........25, auctioneer, surveyor,.........b. St. Peter's, Carms. Richard Thomas, son, single,......23, farmer's son,....................b. St. Peter's, Carms. John Thomas, son, single,...........19, farmer's son,...................b. St. Peter's, Carms. David Vivian Dudley Thomas in census of 1891. At Furnace House, Carmarthen Town on either King Street or St. Peter's Street David Thomas, head, married, 35, land agent's surveyor, born, Carmarthen, Carmarthenshire Helena Thomas, wife, married, 35,.................................... born, Denbigh, Denbighshire DVD Thomas, son,....................2,.......................................born, Carmarthen, Carmarthenshire Can anyone go any further back? Gillie

Gillie, Have you purchased or found a marriage certificate for Nathaniel Thomas to show who his father is......I cannot find a 24 year old - there are only 6 Nathaniel Thomas is my database, the closest in age is a 21 year old.......living and born in Newchurch father Thomas thomas aged 68 farmer 130 acres , mother Esther Thomas aged 54, Nathaniel Thomas aged 21 employed on the farm and 6 servants. There was only a 70 year old Nathaniel Thomas born in St Peters Carmarthen.......in my database anyway Pauline ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gillie Ewart" <gillie.ewart@tiscali.co.uk> To: <CARMARTHENSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, October 03, 2005 11:35 AM Subject: Re: [Cmn-L] Evans and Thomas >I am looking for two families. Not connected at all except by marriage! > > The first is my great grandfather DAVID EVANS who married MARY JONES and > had a son THOMAS, they lived near Court Henry on a farm My grandfather > Thomas was born IN 1861. We do not know any dates for David or Mary or > where they were married. > > The other family is my husband's. > > His grandfather DAVID VIVIAN DUDLEY THOMAS's family was as follows: > > Emma has been a terrific help and found the following: > 1881 census At Maesyprior, Carmarthen > Nathaniel Thomas, head, marr., 54, farmer, farming 250 acres, b. St. > Peter's, Carms. > Anne Thomas, wife, > marr.,........56,........................................b. Abergwilli, > Carms. > Thomas Thomas, son, single,.....27, farmer's son,....................b. > St. Peter's, Carms. > David Thomas, son, single,........25, auctioneer, surveyor,.........b. St. > Peter's, Carms. > Richard Thomas, son, single,......23, farmer's son,....................b. > St. Peter's, Carms. > John Thomas, son, single,...........19, farmer's son,...................b. > St. Peter's, Carms. > > David Vivian Dudley Thomas in census of 1891. > > At Furnace House, Carmarthen Town on either King Street or St. Peter's > Street > > David Thomas, head, married, 35, land agent's surveyor, born, Carmarthen, > Carmarthenshire > Helena Thomas, wife, married, 35,.................................... > born, Denbigh, Denbighshire > DVD Thomas, > son,....................2,.......................................born, > Carmarthen, Carmarthenshire > > Can anyone go any further back? > > Gillie > > ==== CARMARTHENSHIRE Mailing List ==== > Carmarthenshire Place Names Database - Looking for a farm etc you cannot > find - Contact - PeterWihl@compuserve.com - Let him know the name of the > Farm House etc etc - He will search the Database >

No I have not purchased a certificate, as he was born before 1837 I didn't think you could! There are 6 servants on the 1881 census living with Nathaniel Thomas who is 54, this makes him born in 1827?? If I go to the records office in Carmarthen shire where would I start looking? Gillie http://groups.msn.com/Magicalminiatures/pictures or http://gillie1945.tripod.com http://www.tribalpages.com/tribes/gillie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pauline James" <paulinejames@onvol.net> To: <CARMARTHENSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, October 03, 2005 4:12 PM Subject: Re: [Cmn-L] Evans and Thomas > Gillie, Have you purchased or found a marriage certificate for Nathaniel > Thomas to show who his father is......I cannot find a 24 year old - there > are only 6 Nathaniel Thomas is my database, the closest in age is a 21 > year old.......living and born in Newchurch father Thomas thomas aged 68 > farmer 130 acres , mother Esther Thomas aged 54, Nathaniel Thomas aged 21 > employed on the farm and 6 servants.