Hi Dick Perhaps they were non-conformists........the chapel registers are mainly from 1813-1837 as the chapels did not have to 'hand' in their registers by law except for these years.. Where in the IGI did it state Sophia Charles was baptised.......as the non-conformists are on the IGI and bishops transcripts not the welsh parish registers... Yes, Charles is a popular name in Llanelly and Pembrey area.........I myself have a connection with Charles's from Burry, Pembrey parish.......they were not connected to the Minister though..... Pauline ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dick Coleman" <dickcoleman@btinternet.com> To: <CARMARTHENSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2005 12:26 PM Subject: RE: [Cmn-L] Sophia CHARLES > Thanks for such a rapid response Pauline. > > I think it's Carmarthen Town, but not 100% sure. The 1851 census in New > Quay > says she was born in Carmarthen & was aged 39 (ie DOB 1812). Her age at > death, 3 Nov 1853, is given as 44 (ie DOB 1809) acc to the NBI. A record > on > the IGI also suggests Carmarthen Town. > > I know from the IGI that there are other CHARLES family births in > Llanelly, > Carmarthen, do you have any list for that area? > > Thanks again > > Dick > > -----Original Message----- > From: Pauline James [mailto:paulinejames@onvol.net] > Sent: 23 October 2005 10:38 > To: CARMARTHENSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [Cmn-L] Sophia CHARLES > > > Hi Dick > > I have looked in Carmarthen St Peters from 1808-1812 and cannot see a > Sophia > Charles.....there are sons to a John and Elizabeth Charles being baptised > in > Carmathen but no Sophia > > Do you mean Carmarthen Town or Carmarthenshire? > > Pauline > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Dick Coleman" <dickcoleman@btinternet.com> > To: <CARMARTHENSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2005 11:08 AM > Subject: [Cmn-L] Sophia CHARLES > > >> Hi listers >> >> I'm new to this list and seeking information on Sophia CHARLES, born >> about >> 1810 in Carmarthen. She is believed to have been a niece or great-niece >> of >> Thomas CHARLES (1755-1814), the famous Methodist. About 1835 Sophia >> married >> John PATRICK (c 1812-1864) of Lincoln and they established the Black Lion >> Inn in Llanllwchaiarn/New Quay, Cardiganshire. Sophia died there in 1853. >> >> Can anybody help further? >> >> Dick >> >> >> ==== CARMARTHENSHIRE Mailing List ==== >> Wales Genealogy CD's for Wales research >> http://www.Wales-Genealogy.co.uk >> > > > ==== CARMARTHENSHIRE Mailing List ==== > Wales Genealogy CD's for Wales research > http://www.Wales-Genealogy.co.uk > > > > ==== CARMARTHENSHIRE Mailing List ==== > You are requested to have up-to-date Anti-Virus software loaded on your > PC, if your PC becomes infected, you will Automatically be Unsubscribed > from this mailing list >
Thanks Pauline. Yes, Sophia CHARLES was certainly non-conformist, in line with the link to Thomas CHARLES. Her entry in the IGI is only her birth, marriage & death dates, there's no baptism record. Dick -----Original Message----- From: Pauline James [mailto:paulinejames@onvol.net] Sent: 23 October 2005 12:20 To: CARMARTHENSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [Cmn-L] Sophia CHARLES Hi Dick Perhaps they were non-conformists........the chapel registers are mainly from 1813-1837 as the chapels did not have to 'hand' in their registers by law except for these years.. Where in the IGI did it state Sophia Charles was baptised.......as the non-conformists are on the IGI and bishops transcripts not the welsh parish registers... Yes, Charles is a popular name in Llanelly and Pembrey area.........I myself have a connection with Charles's from Burry, Pembrey parish.......they were not connected to the Minister though..... Pauline ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dick Coleman" <dickcoleman@btinternet.com> To: <CARMARTHENSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2005 12:26 PM Subject: RE: [Cmn-L] Sophia CHARLES > Thanks for such a rapid response Pauline. > > I think it's Carmarthen Town, but not 100% sure. The 1851 census in New > Quay > says she was born in Carmarthen & was aged 39 (ie DOB 1812). Her age at > death, 3 Nov 1853, is given as 44 (ie DOB 1809) acc to the NBI. A record > on > the IGI also suggests Carmarthen Town. > > I know from the IGI that there are other CHARLES family births in > Llanelly, > Carmarthen, do you have any list for that area? > > Thanks again > > Dick > > -----Original Message----- > From: Pauline James [mailto:paulinejames@onvol.net] > Sent: 23 October 2005 10:38 > To: CARMARTHENSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [Cmn-L] Sophia CHARLES > > > Hi Dick > > I have looked in Carmarthen St Peters from 1808-1812 and cannot see a > Sophia > Charles.....there are sons to a John and Elizabeth Charles being baptised > in > Carmathen but no Sophia > > Do you mean Carmarthen Town or Carmarthenshire? > > Pauline > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Dick Coleman" <dickcoleman@btinternet.com> > To: <CARMARTHENSHIRE-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2005 11:08 AM > Subject: [Cmn-L] Sophia CHARLES > > >> Hi listers >> >> I'm new to this list and seeking information on Sophia CHARLES, born >> about >> 1810 in Carmarthen. She is believed to have been a niece or great-niece >> of >> Thomas CHARLES (1755-1814), the famous Methodist. About 1835 Sophia >> married >> John PATRICK (c 1812-1864) of Lincoln and they established the Black Lion >> Inn in Llanllwchaiarn/New Quay, Cardiganshire. Sophia died there in 1853. >> >> Can anybody help further? >> >> Dick >> >> >> ==== CARMARTHENSHIRE Mailing List ==== >> Wales Genealogy CD's for Wales research >> http://www.Wales-Genealogy.co.uk >> > > > ==== CARMARTHENSHIRE Mailing List ==== > Wales Genealogy CD's for Wales research > http://www.Wales-Genealogy.co.uk > > > > ==== CARMARTHENSHIRE Mailing List ==== > You are requested to have up-to-date Anti-Virus software loaded on your > PC, if your PC becomes infected, you will Automatically be Unsubscribed > from this mailing list > ==== CARMARTHENSHIRE Mailing List ==== Carmarthenshire Place Names Database - Looking for a farm etc you cannot find - Contact - PeterWihl@compuserve.com - Let him know the name of the Farm House etc etc - He will search the Database